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i hope rey isn't biologically related to any of the characters from the previous movies it would be cool and good if the title 'the force awakens' actually meant something (preferably 'you get the force, you get the force, everybody gets the force') rather than just being a 'the noun verbs' title
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ungulateman posted:i hope rey isn't biologically related to any of the characters from the previous movies Yeah, the lazy option is that Rey ends up being somehow a Skywalker (either a direct descendant of Luke, or the crazy Chosen One/Anakin reincarnation trilogy). Slightly less lazy is "Obi-Wan's kid/grandkid" or "related to Palpatine". But I really really really want Rey to symbolically carry on the Skywalker destiny, without being directly related to anyone from the OT. Sadly, I think the suits at Disney are gonna follow the Lucas-ism of "Star Wars is about the Skywalkers" and she's going to be a literal Skywalker rather than a figurative one.
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JJ specifically said that none of Rey's parents are in TFA. Then again, JJ also said that Cumberbatch wasn't Khan, so JJ Abrams is a trickster poo poo-rear end.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Cause if he does, they'll announce the set tomorrow. In which case he absolutely should, for the good of film history. Take one for the team, man.
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Gonz posted:JJ specifically said that none of Rey's parents are in TFA. Yeah; after the Khan thing I never trust pre-release JJ. Plus he could be being tricksy and Rey is like Luke's granddaughter or something. Or the child of a clone of Luke (from the severed hand), and as such the Luke we see isn't technically her father, or whatever.
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teagone posted:I like the Rey "is descended from Palpatine or is a clone of him" theory the best so far. She's the daugther of Prince Ken! Who was "tragically" killed by Kylo Ren.
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Rey has an uncle who works at Nintendo and he knows who her real parents are.
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ungulateman posted:i hope rey isn't biologically related to any of the characters from the previous movies The Star Wars
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jivjov posted:But I really really really want Rey to symbolically Who are you, and what have you done with jivjov?
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jivjov posted:Yeah, the lazy option is that Rey ends up being somehow a Skywalker (either a direct descendant of Luke, or the crazy Chosen One/Anakin reincarnation trilogy). Slightly less lazy is "Obi-Wan's kid/grandkid" or "related to Palpatine". But I really really really want Rey to symbolically carry on the Skywalker destiny, without being directly related to anyone from the OT. Maybe she is a female clone of Anakin.
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Rey's dad was a nameless Rebel pilot she never, her mother was a local prostitute. She's nobody.
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Her dad was actually Dash Rendar and Episode VIII is going to be terrible.
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Spacebump posted:Maybe she is a female clone of Anakin. People keep saying this (the Tranakin Skywalker Theory), but I feel like it really stretches the definition of "clone"
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General Dog posted:People keep saying this (the Tranakin Skywalker Theory), but I feel like it really stretches the definition of "clone"  Note: Disney owns all of the Kingdom Hearts characters, not Square.
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I hope she's an absolute no-one and gets the name Skywalker as an inheritor of a legacy not a lineage. But its Disney so I'm steeling myself for whatever they throw out.
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Raxivace posted:It would not be the first time a Disney character was a transgendered clone! ^transgender, not transgendered. EX-GAIJIN AT LAST posted:Who are you, and what have you done with jivjov? I have broadened and expanded my mind by watching a bunch more movies (currently on hiatus because I am sometimes a lazy sack of poo poo.) jivjov fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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jivjov posted:^transgender, not transgendered.
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Raxivace posted:I'm not sure I see your point. Using "transgendered" to refer to a trans person is rude. "Transgender" is the correct way to do so. I realize that in this instance you were referring to a fictional character...but it's still a good habit to have.
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Raxivace posted:I'm not sure I see your point.
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jivjov posted:Using "transgendered" to refer to a trans person is rude. "Transgender" is the correct way to do so.
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jivjov posted:^transgender, not transgendered. I had always just sort of slid my eyes over that thread without really noticing it, but good for you. I haven't seen a lot of Kurosawa, but I'll be curious to see the Miyazaki reviews, so thanks for what I hope will be an interesting read.
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Raxivace posted:Fair enough! I meant no offense and apologize for any caused. You're good! I attributed it to not knowing, rather than malice on your part.  EX-GAIJIN AT LAST posted:I had always just sort of slid my eyes over that thread without really noticing it, but good for you. I haven't seen a lot of Kurosawa, but I'll be curious to see the Miyazaki reviews, so thanks for what I hope will be an interesting read. I've honestly been a bit down on quite a few Miyazaki/Ghibli films, even ones that a lot of the rest of the thread seemed to like. Hopefully I don't disappoint you too hard! Anyway, hit me up over in that thread if you want more specific thoughts and/or to urge me to get back on track.
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I thought one of the big marketed themes in TFA was supposed to be adoption and the willing creation of non-biological families? I guess the same could be said for ANH though.
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Rey is not going to be a clone or a reincarnation of anyone. And what even is the appeal of making her the granddaughter of Palpatine or Obi-Wan, beyond the initial surprise value? Doing something like that won't expand either of those characters in any productive way—it just means we'd hear that Ben or Sheev hosed some rando at some point and then ditched her. And there already is a hero who comes from literal namelessness and whose backstory is all wrapped up. He chooses the name Finn. I am absolutely convinced that Rey's parents will be people we know and have seen in the movies. It's the only way for the mystery of her heritage to pay off. And there's an extreme lack of eligible candidates: she's definitely not Han and Leia's kid, and she's not Lando's, so all that's left is Luke and anyone who survives Rogue One. Rey as Luke's kid offers lots of ways to develop the Luke character in the post-ROTJ setting, and it gives Rey a competing claim to the Skywalker legacy that young Ben Solo may have viewed as a threat. That's a cool family dynamic that hasn't been explored at all in the films so far. Plus there's the billion parallels between Rey and Luke and Anakin: her hardscrabble childhood in the desert, her mechanical skills and piloting gifts, her companionship with the R2 expy, her need to understand the legacy her parents have left her, and so on. All of these could have been done totally differently, so they only make sense as either naked traditionalism or a conscious effort to tie her in particular to the Skywalker clan. Zoran fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Rey is Luke's daughter. I'm sorry.
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Rey and Luke are the same person Fight Club style
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Rebels S3 premieres tonight at 8:30PM EST, not sure I understand the timing of Saturday morning cartoons anymore.
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turtlecrunch posted:Rebels S3 premieres tonight at 8:30PM EST, not sure I understand the timing of Saturday morning cartoons anymore. Saturday morning cartoons are dead.
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 None of them were better than when the Sci Fi channel showed Vampire Hunter D and Robot Carnival on Saturday mornings anyway.
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Zoran posted:Rey is not going to be a clone or a reincarnation of anyone. And what even is the appeal of making her the granddaughter of Palpatine or Obi-Wan, beyond the initial surprise value? Doing something like that won't expand either of those characters in any productive way—it just means we'd hear that Ben or Sheev hosed some rando at some point and then ditched her. This is all true except Luke is already literally Palpatine's grandson so Rey is his great granddaughter, so you can have it both ways.
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Jewmanji posted:This is all true except Luke is already literally Palpatine's grandson so Rey is his great granddaughter, so you can have it both ways. Luke is more spiritually Palpatine's grandson than literally. 1) force manipulation of midichlorians is not the same as genetic paternity. And 2) the book that confirmed that Palpatine and Plagiues' manipulations 100% caused Anakin's birth is no longer canonical.
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the sperm in the eggs opera scene literally spells it out for us that Plagueis (or Palpatine) is Anakin's father. I mean, it's real blunt
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Wild Horses posted:the sperm in the eggs opera scene literally spells it out for us that Plagueis (or Palpatine) is Anakin's father. I mean, it's real blunt Symbolism is not explicit text. I mean; that's obviously the intent of the scene...but it cannot be taken as objective fact.
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When I discuss space fantasy about wizards and magic, I feel compelled to claim that symbolic interactions are not real or objective.
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jivjov posted:Symbolism is not explicit text. Obvious symbolism and intent are insignificant next to the power of the Canon.
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Zoran posted:I am absolutely convinced that Rey's parents will be people we know and have seen in the movies. It's the only way for the mystery of her heritage to pay off. The expectation that Rey's parents must be someone notable kind of reminds me of a kid with a single parent telling himself that his Dad is secretly a special agent working for the government, and that's why he's never around to be a father. It seems depressingly naive and more than a little sad. That's not to say it won't happen, but I'd be disappointed if it does. Wild Horses posted:the sperm in the eggs opera scene literally spells it out for us that Plagueis (or Palpatine) is Anakin's father. I mean, it's real blunt Palpatine has a few ulterior motives. That scene isn't evidence that Anakin was created by Sith magic as much as it is evidence that Sheev recognizes how Anakin's messiah complex can be leveraged against him.
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