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i think the design difficulty that would be added by designing games for multiple performance profiles on top of it interfering with the entire console's hybrid gimmick i think it's unlikely they would set up a situation in which the portable experience could be at a disadvantage. it would require guidelines from nintendo for things that are hard to quantify (since performance bottlenecks differ between games and use cases) and it would probably lead to games being unoptimized of mobile/not utilizing the extra capabilities of docking of course i might be very wrong but it doesn't seem like a nintendo thing to do
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Polo-Rican posted:The cube doesn't even make sense because the wireless latency would completely negate any computing power. Games run at 60fps. There's simply no way to send data from the tablet to the box, have the box compute significant stuff, and then send it back each frame There is, this was how OnLive worked and how stuff like PS4 Vita remote play and steam in home streaming work, you connect to the powerful computer and play it remotely. There is always some extra input lag on top, but it's negligible for many types of games
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greatn posted:Playing the first chapter of Color Splash, and I gotta say this is the funniest Paper Mario game with the best written dialogue out of the series so far. How's the combat? I know everyone hated it in Sticker Star and I know not to expect it to be like TTYD or anything but as long as it's not an obtrusive slog I can deal with it. The writing and the creative environments were always what made the series for me. Also if the NX is backwards compatible then this will be playable on it so totally on topic here
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the cube is an upscaler. it has a port for hdmi and the switch is between 1080p and 4k
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nigga crab pollock posted:i think the design difficulty that would be added by designing games for multiple performance profiles on top of it interfering with the entire console's hybrid gimmick i think it's unlikely they would set up a situation in which the portable experience could be at a disadvantage. it would require guidelines from nintendo for things that are hard to quantify (since performance bottlenecks differ between games and use cases) and it would probably lead to games being unoptimized of mobile/not utilizing the extra capabilities of docking Your wrong. If designing a game from the start with a scalable resolution and detail settings in mind it's not that much increase in difficulty.
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shockingly enough the people that pay 1000$ for a graphics card or 500$ for a magic cube to hold the graphics card in to coprocess for their laptop still have to use a cable to enable coprocessing and it doesn't work over magic bullshit wifi
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Sep 24, 2016 03:08
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I love The Power Cube. It's so bad.
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although the wii u gamepad's proprietary h264x or whatever codec thing is actually still magic and its also magic how amazingly the gyro response time and controls works within the confines of its clipping planes when it has such a poo poo-garbage wifi chip in it that drops off after like 2 feet of range (until you order the part on ebay and replace it)
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Decus posted:I love The Power Cube. It's so bad. It's not the Power Cube. It's the Cube for the Nintendo Power.
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I refuse to accept any cube that is not the Gamecube. That loving sketch doesn't even have a handle for gently caress's sake.
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Phantasium posted:I refuse to accept any cube that is not the Gamecube. That loving sketch doesn't even have a handle for gently caress's sake. the gamecube is back in amiibo form
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Phantasium posted:I refuse to accept any cube that is not the Gamecube. That loving sketch doesn't even have a handle for gently caress's sake. Good news, I just read they're calling it the Gamecube 4.
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EX-GAIJIN AT LAST posted:Good news, I just read they're calling it the Gamecube 4. The Game³
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Sep 24, 2016 05:18
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Is "Nintendonx" plural? Is it just a fancy way of saying "Nintendonks"? Is the singular form "Nintendonk"?
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Polo-Rican posted:The cube doesn't even make sense because the wireless latency would completely negate any computing power. Games run at 60fps. There's simply no way to send data from the tablet to the box, have the box compute significant stuff, and then send it back each frame comedy answer:  serious answer: i think computer science wizards who specialize in hardware have figured out some way to assist renders in a way that is not really frame data but doing a bunch of bulk processing that eases up the workload on the real-time renderer on the device itself. i mean renderfarms are a thing, and network bandwidth isnt anywhere close to a graphics bus' capacity, i dont even think it's particularly new technology other than making it a Render Cube that does close range wireless networking to pull it off without the user having to sweat about it too much
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It wouldn't have to send the frames back to the handheld, just to the TV.
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It sends each individual frame to your uncle at Nintendo
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Polo-Rican posted:The cube doesn't even make sense because the wireless latency would completely negate any computing power. Games run at 60fps. There's simply no way to send data from the tablet to the box, have the box compute significant stuff, and then send it back each frame It could work pretty simply if the magic box is a more powerful version of the hardware in the handheld, and when you're in range of the box the handheld defers to it entirely and becomes a dumb screen like the Wii U gamepad. But that would mean a good portion of the NX hardware is totally idle in either mode, and the magic box would need to have clear and compelling benefits that can be explained and marketed really easily. It sounds more like a neat trick to impress nerds than a gameplay feature that anyone can appreciate. The sort of thing Nintendo is allergic to.
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greatn posted:Playing the first chapter of Color Splash, and I gotta say this is the funniest Paper Mario game with the best written dialogue out of the series so far. Was looking for a thread to post spoiler-free impressions. Grabbed it last night and promptly disconnected my Ethernet adapter/deleted the wifi settings from the system because  .I am only a few hours into the game (taking my time) and I hope the dialogue holds up. I very rarely laugh out loud at video games, doubly so if I'm playing by myself, but this game's writing is 100% solid and I've caught myself laughing every few minutes thus far. I didn't play sticker star so I can't compare the combat systems, but all of your moves are issued by cards. These cards are scattered everywhere, can be purchased, or simply farmed if you're inclined to do so. I started out not really liking it and I would still like SMRPG or Paper Mario combat, but I haven't tinkered around with any of the advanced control schemes (there are 3 total) so I can't say for sure it is bad. I'm the type to hoard every strong item until the final area (and forget to use most of them) so it takes some time to get used to it. Sometimes I feel like I'm running low on cards but then I'll find 10 before the next battle so it isn't nearly as grindy as it could have been. I played SMRPG, Paper Mario, Superstar Saga, TTYD, Super Paper Mario, Partners in Time, and parts of Paper Jam. I don't want to hype it up and ruin anyone's expectations, but I am quickly finding this to be my second favorite behind SMRPG, despite the uniquely weird combat system. Can't say for sure until I get through the game, but it's looking great so far. I'm finding it pretty hard to get excellent timing with the hammer, but the rest of the cards are easy to use once you know what you're supposed to do. Maybe I missed a tutorial somewhere but it wasn't until I hit up a training area that I learned how to use fire flowers. There seems to be less hand holding throughout the game unless you specifically request help. Welcome change for sure.
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Man hammers are so freaking hard. What's weird is I can get Excellents every time in training mode but when it comes to a real battle I choke. But seriously three levels in and so far the comedy and writing is still like Lucasarts 90s tier. Also, I'm not sure if it's the best strategy in this game, but it's what I've been doing, and what was the best strategy in sticker star, just use your best cards like there's no tomorrow, whatever you think will kill the enemies in one hit, do it. Also, I can't believe how compelled I feel to color in every little patch of white.
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Shut up, you covert Nintendo marketers. I will not buy the new Paper Mario.
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Rexroom posted:Shut up, you covert Nintendo marketers. I will not buy the new Paper Mario. Why not rent it from a service like Gamefly?
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BillmasterCozb posted:Why not rent it from a service like Gamefly? True, I can probably loan a copy from my local library. Such is life in a socialist hell-hole. 
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Bloodplay it again posted:Was looking for a thread to post spoiler-free impressions. Grabbed it last night and promptly disconnected my Ethernet adapter/deleted the wifi settings from the system because I've got one question (even though I'm definitely gonna buy this Paper Mario too, weak-willed and spineless as I am). Do they still do the "puzzle" boss fights? In the 3DS Paper Mario, many bosses were absurdly hard and a terrifyingly boring slog to fight - unless you used one of several Thing stickers, which immediately turned the fight into a joke. So basically: terrible boss fights when not using the Thing stickers, easy non-fights if you did. On top of that, even if you did have the correct Thing, the moments where the game allows them to actually work on the enemy were somewhat arbritrary, leading to several moments where you just waste an otherwise correct item because NOPE gently caress YOU. Also, before fighting the boss, there was usually no indication whatsoever of which Things were required, which was kinda frustrating as well (although you could run from bosses, if I remember correctly). That's the biggest issue I had with Sticker Star. I could rest easy if I knew they addressed THAT particular brainfart on the designer's part...
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I'm in no rush to get Color Splash, but I might ask for it as a Christmas present or something. There's plenty of other games I need to finish first (#FE, Persona Q, Final Fantasy VIII) as well as getting anything else I want this year (Yo-Kai Watch 2, Pokemon Sun/Moon)
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I'd really like Nintendo to reveal the NX before October as then instead of daydreaming about Nintendo revealing the NX, I can daydream about all the good and fun games I'm going to play on it when I buy it.
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Actually, thinking about it, if the hybrid thing turns out to be true as seems pretty likely, would 3DS backwards compatibility be too much to expect?
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Sodomy Non Sapiens posted:Actually, thinking about it, if the hybrid thing turns out to be true as seems pretty likely, would 3DS backwards compatibility be too much to expect? They would need to put 3ds hardware on board the handset so it would be a size consideration idk.
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Sodomy Non Sapiens posted:Actually, thinking about it, if the hybrid thing turns out to be true as seems pretty likely, would 3DS backwards compatibility be too much to expect? I would expect some kind of VC BC. Probably rereleasing certain DS and 3DS games modified to work on the NX. But I'd be shocked if you could just pop in a DS cartridge into the hole and have it work. Real hurthling! posted:They would need to put 3ds hardware on board the handset so it would be a size consideration idk. I can't imagine they're gonna bother with 3D on the NX either. It was a fun selling point for the 3DS at the beginning, but don't most people just leave the 3D off now?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I would expect some kind of VC BC. Probably rereleasing certain DS and 3DS games modified to work on the NX. But I'd be shocked if you could just pop in a DS cartridge into the hole and have it work. Some swear by it. I never liked the effect
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Yeah any backwards compatibility I was thinking more along the lines of the 2DS - I enjoy the 3D effect , but I can't think of any games where I'd describe it as 'essential'.Guy Goodbody posted:I would expect some kind of VC BC. Probably rereleasing certain DS and 3DS games modified to work on the NX. But I'd be shocked if you could just pop in a DS cartridge into the hole and have it work. This'll probably be the answer if it exists and hopefully I won't drain my wallet too hard rebuying stuff for the nth time on the NX Virtual Console.
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I never liked the 3d until I got a "New" 3DS and it works wonderfully and I love playing Luigi's Mansion and 3DS Land with it on full blast. It's like I'm playing in a little diorama.
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Sodomy Non Sapiens posted:Yeah any backwards compatibility I was thinking more along the lines of the 2DS - I enjoy the 3D effect , but I can't think of any games where I'd describe it as 'essential'. Well if it doesnt play 3ds carts, keep your 3ds and you wont need to rebuy.
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The NX's VC DS & 3DS BC
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I thought 3D was great, but I definitely don't expect it in the NX and it's not going to affect my purchasing decision.
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VC and BC chat: I would be thrilled if there were some feature that helped me avoid rebuying old games I already have on my WiiU, but I don't expect it to actually happen. It's the same reason I have a PS4 but also my PS3. The eventual solution will be "keep your old systems." Which is fine. I would be down with magical cube technology if each cube was actually a large block letter. Collect them all for maximum performance: - W - A - L - U - I - G - I
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i just want a phone app that, if you scan the top of a Pizza Hutt box, waluigi appears and dances on-stage for you
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If there were more AR cards for the 3DS than your dream may have been reality. But we're in the dark timeline. Wa
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coffeecup posted:If there were more AR cards for the 3DS than your dream may have been reality. Yeah whatever happened to those? They were a big thing when the 3DS came out, and you never hear about them anymore. They 're even doing a line of Animal Crossing cards for the 3DS, and none of them have any AR elements
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah whatever happened to those? They were a big thing when the 3DS came out, and you never hear about them anymore. They 're even doing a line of Animal Crossing cards for the 3DS, and none of them have any AR elements Yeah I'm bummed they didn't make more. As a novelty they were real cool. Guessing they were made by a smaller project team that ended up having to work on other stuff instead.
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