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This all leaves me wondering if Vive and Oculus are supposed to ban porn. Otherwise they become associated with an industry that degrades women.
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patentmagus posted:This all leaves me wondering if Vive and Oculus are supposed to ban porn. Otherwise they become associated with an industry that degrades women. lol.
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Sep 24, 2016 16:13
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im the nearly constant false equivalancies itt
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Porn is like the only worthwhile thing available on VR right now
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Sep 24, 2016 16:13
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Actually VR porn loving sucks, to varying degrees
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Cojawfee posted:And you seem like an overly sensitive tryhard who likes to feign outrage by making GBS threads up threads with the dumbest poo poo. you're the one who seems to be outraged here, friend
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homeless snail posted:Actually VR porn loving sucks, to varying degrees depends on your teledildonics setup
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d0s posted:you're the one who seems to be outraged here, friend The cognitive dissonance is palpable. I'm going to go play Hitman I guess.
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Main issue with VR games right now is there's a dearth of good content, which you probably can't say about porn. That's about the extent of my opinion on that. Well, teledildonics is a good word also. e: Has anyone said Oculini Riftler yet?
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patentmagus posted:This all leaves me wondering if Vive and Oculus are supposed to ban porn. They both do, in the sense that they both forbid it being sold through their stores. Admittedly Steam has started to walk that one back slightly, but it's still a policy they hold to in the main.
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Sep 24, 2016 16:23
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Cojawfee posted:And you seem like an overly sensitive tryhard who likes to feign outrage by making GBS threads up threads with the dumbest poo poo. Why do you care so much if he doesn't have anything to do with VR anymore besides tweets? Like if you are selfish and want Oculus to do well because you've hung your dollars on their hardware and software that's fine but you don't have a right to Oculus being healthy outside of people that are associated with it (including their bad opinions) like what is sort of happening right now. If Palmer is as unimportant as you say then you should be lolin with the rest of us. If you are mad at other people's opinions then you should also be mad at Palmer's. If you are a Trump supporter and think sjws are real then at least own it and be proud of your opinions. If you just want to be contrarian just because you think it's cool then everyone can see through that and thus we're all laughing at you.
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Sep 24, 2016 16:27
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Cojawfee posted:And you seem like an overly sensitive tryhard who likes to feign outrage by making GBS threads up threads with the dumbest poo poo. Company boycotts have a long history of changing company policy. We even had a recent example of getting an execrable human being ousted from a position high within his company by using public pressure. It's my opinion that active racists, homophobes, and other hateful bigots should not be employable in the US. They should be publicly shamed and their employers pressured until they are forced to quit or stop supporting hate groups. Obviously this isn't feasible in a wide scale, but having highly visible victories like that is important in showing that supporting hate groups is not OK in the US in the 21st century. Personally I'd be happy with two resolutions: either Oculus should publicly disavow Palmer's statements, fire, and distance themselves from him; or Palmer should publicly apologize and donate at least $10k to some charity for disadvantaged children or something like that. Either resolution shows that supporting racism is not acceptable and has consequences. Regarding "any boycott ever is stupid," you may be interested in the Montgomery bus boycott. (No, I'm not saying refusing to buy high-end toys is on the same level, but demonstrating that boycotts can be successful.)
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Yikes. Do a news search for Oculus and it's all "founder supports Trump meme group." They can't be happy about that. Has Oculus released a statement yet? Connect starts in a few weeks, and I imagine they'd like to get this settled before then.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Yikes. Do a news search for Oculus and it's all "founder supports Trump meme group." They can't be happy about that. quote:I want to respond to the recent press stories involving Palmer. I know that Palmer is deeply sorry for the impact this situation is having on the company, our partners and the industry.
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lol, that wont wrap this story up at all
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Also https://twitter.com/Jason_Rubin/status/779512905221885952https://twitter.com/Jason_Rubin/status/779513266124955649https://twitter.com/Jason_Rubin/status/779513492562845696 e: I think both Iribe and Rubin's responses are from before the Daily Beast posted the emails?
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Sep 24, 2016 17:13
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"I'm sorry that my business was damaged by the dank meme machine. Minorities can still get hosed though."
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4/3 For White Children
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Edit: never mind
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Sep 24, 2016 17:18
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This new season of Silicon Valley is pretty good so far
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Oculus should totally open themselves up to a multimillion dollar lawsuit (under CA law) by firing a man for his off-time political activity. They should probably acknowledge this happening in a press release and write "die cis scum" in the text. Anything else is unacceptable. I am a reasonable person.
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The thing that actually legitimately pisses me off is that I would like whatever becomes of the larger VR network that is in the process of being created ("The Metaverse") to be an incredibly diverse and open place, and you're sitting here being real excited about the social implications of technology to bring people together and then VR Steve Jobs is like "just one more thing..." and puts on his klansman robe and hood. Very excited about the VR internet being Whites-Only AOL, presented by Oculus.
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yea vr should be very inclusive and the message is that this pudgy gently caress cares more about harambe memes than being inclusive to nonwhites
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Lol, this just got broken wide open by the tshirt experts of GAF 
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bloodysabbath posted:Oculus should totally open themselves up to a multimillion dollar lawsuit (under CA law) by firing a man for his off-time political activity. They should probably acknowledge this happening in a press release and write "die cis scum" in the text. Anything else is unacceptable. I am a reasonable person. Didn't mention "sjw" 4/10 homeless snail posted:Lol, this just got broken wide open by the tshirt experts of GAF Ahahah goddamn. Now he's a really bad lair without a doubt. Makes me wonder what the Facebook meeting was like when they were talking about this and if they knew or Luckey was like "no no I'm a libertarian" and they too bought it.
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homeless snail posted:The thing that actually legitimately pisses me off is that I would like whatever becomes of the larger VR network that is in the process of being created ("The Metaverse") to be an incredibly diverse and open place, and you're sitting here being real excited about the social implications of technology to bring people together and then VR Steve Jobs is like "just one more thing..." and puts on his klansman robe and hood. Very excited about the VR internet being Whites-Only AOL, presented by Oculus. Steve Jobs was a horrible person who basically abandoned his first daughter. I don't like deadbeat dads, so I better toss like 6k in computer products I own. (Also Jobs was the CEO of his company who played a day to day role. Luckey basically got his title as part of a severance package.)
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homeless snail posted:The thing that actually legitimately pisses me off is that I would like whatever becomes of the larger VR network that is in the process of being created ("The Metaverse") to be an incredibly diverse and open place, and you're sitting here being real excited about the social implications of technology to bring people together and then VR Steve Jobs is like "just one more thing..." and puts on his klansman robe and hood. Very excited about the VR internet being Whites-Only AOL, presented by Oculus. The Metaverse or whatever is just gonna be Second Life with VR distortion, anthropomorphic genitalia and all, anyway so I wouldn't be too bothered
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bloodysabbath posted:Steve Jobs was a horrible person who basically abandoned his first daughter. I don't like deadbeat dads, so I better toss like 6k in computer products I own.
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bloodysabbath posted:Steve Jobs was a horrible person who basically abandoned his first daughter. I don't like deadbeat dads, so I better toss like 6k in computer products I own. Why are you so upset that people don't want to support a white supremacist when they the option to not do so?
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I don't think he should be fired I just think it's cool that this dork will forever be known as the VR guy who paid for racist pepes
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Ciaphas posted:The Metaverse or whatever is just gonna be Second Life with VR distortion, anthropomorphic genitalia and all, anyway so I wouldn't be too bothered
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I just imagined a lady's bits with human legs and nothing else as a result of my post and now I'm vaguely horrifiedhomeless snail posted:Yeah but I want my VR cyber orgies to be interracial Fair enough!
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KakerMix posted:Why do you care so much if he doesn't have anything to do with VR anymore besides tweets? Maybe I was just being too subtle before with my "he has nothing to do with vr anymore" posts. This is the VR thread, not the "racist man baby sucks poo poo and is racist" thread. I don't care if people hate Palmer, I hate him too. But what he did has nothing to do with vr. People are free to go to a Trump hatedump thread in D&D and poo poo all over his racist memes. I just don't see what it has to do with vr besides a casual mention that it was him. Turning this thread into a debate about unchecked Muslim immigration and racist memes doesn't do anything for someone who wants to talk about and learn about vr.
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homeless snail posted:Iribe: NRVNQSR posted:Also even so. this wont end well. I am sure more indies will walk away from the table and if more (worse) stuff comes out, major devs might too. bloodysabbath posted:Oculus should totally open themselves up to a multimillion dollar lawsuit (under CA law) by firing a man for his off-time political activity. They should probably acknowledge this happening in a press release and write "die cis scum" in the text. Anything else is unacceptable. I am a reasonable person. your not wrong sadly. If they do sack him and dont check all their boxes he will sue and i am sure it wont end well.
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 The founding principle of Oculus: to create a product for people in Africa to escape their lovely lives. "Wait", Palmer thinks to himself, "What if we could actively makes people's lives worse..."
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d0s posted:I don't think he should be fired I just think it's cool that this dork will forever be known as the VR guy who paid for racist pepes If he has provided financial and verbal support to a group that Oculus considers unacceptable, and lied about it, then Oculus should remove him from a public-facing role representing the company. If they don't they're both admitting that they do consider these views acceptable, and that someone who represents their company publicly is a liar. This doesn't actually mean he should be fired, though, and I don't think he will be. A sensible response would be to move him to a role where he is no longer authorised to represent the company publicly, and I think this is probably what they will do; the only question is whether they do so quietly or whether they make a big deal out of it.
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