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Libertine posted:I don't know how you guys watch the hour-plus long individual talking about their opinions videos. Gave it like 15 minutes, minimized the window right out the gate because why the hell would you watch the video part of it and the guy went over more or less the same bullet points he's done for a bit here. Also you're older than I am so I'm calling your rear end out on pretending to have ADHD you stats goon spreadsheet blogging motherfucker
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Servaetes posted:Gave it like 15 minutes, minimized the window right out the gate because why the hell would you watch the video part of it and the guy went over more or less the same bullet points he's done for a bit here. He doesn't have much time left on this earth and you're telling him to use such a huge chunk of it on watching montecristo You should be ashamed of yourself
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It's not ADHD, it's the format. Videotaping yourself talking for an hour is probably the least efficient way you can convey your opinion to someone else. Whatever he said in that hour-long self-masturbatory interview could easily be conveyed into a single one-page written summary (or in this case a forum post) which an average human could read and process in a minute or two. I'm not wasting my time watching that poo poo.
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AnonSpore posted:He doesn't have much time left on this earth and you're telling him to use such a huge chunk of it on watching montecristo My God, what have I done... Libertine posted:It's not ADHD, it's the format. Videotaping yourself talking for an hour is probably the least efficient way you can convey your opinion to someone else. Whatever he said in that hour-long self-masturbatory interview could easily be conveyed into a single one-page written summary (or in this case a forum post) which an average human could read and process in a minute or two. I'm not wasting my time watching that poo poo. Oh yeah, I know, you're incredibly easy to gently caress with
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Servaetes posted:And I mean I get his appeal but I've never liked it. Yeah, sure, it's great that he can call a game over five minutes in while Rioters will try to make it seem like the rank 12 team stands a chance against rank 1. But that kind of casting relies insanely heavily on the casters and their personality. He's made no attempt to hide he's a douche, starting off with the train conductor schtick in S3 Worlds. He's an ok caster, but nothing he does outside of casting is worth listening to. I don't think people appreciate how dumb it is to argue salary grievances over twitter. It may make the company look worse than you but other companies will and should want to avoid hiring you
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I'm completely fine with salary grievances being aired publicly like that, if it leads to people getting paid more. SMITE casters getting paid more is quite frankly ridiculous and I'm glad that we all know that now
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I didn't watch too much and here's my beef 1) States some analogy and rebukes it 2) Compares himself to entertainers/entertainment industry 3) Says his video will be boring 4) I immediately turn off Why would you do something you know is boring immediately after comparing yourself to entertainers/entertainment industry?
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Servaetes posted:Oh yeah, I know, you're incredibly easy to gently caress with *crotchety old man cane shake*
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Libertine posted:*crotchety old man cane shake* 
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Libertine posted:I don't know how you guys watch the hour-plus long individual talking about their opinions videos. oh jesus when i opened the video to link it I thought it said 10 minutes but I just now saw its actually an hour what the gently caress how can he find stuff to talk about for an hour on a subject thats pretty open and shut?
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Safety Scissors posted:Why would you do something you know is boring immediately after comparing yourself to entertainers/entertainment industry? Because this isn't the entertainment side of it. Do you go watch interviews with sportscasters or celebs or whoever the gently caress and after 5 minutes of them talking go "BOOOOORING why dont you do something ENTERTAINING"? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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i don't know why i love listening to people kind of boring-ly talk about their opinions for hours but maybe it's just cause i always liked talk radio a lot richard lewis' new vid where he was talking about the weird cult-like charity marc merill is on the board of + donated to was rly funny
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Savage Cracker posted:First half the top 20 players is out That's whack. Everyone knows who the best player at worlds is: Doublelift.
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Murder She Twote posted:That's whack. Everyone knows who the best player at worlds is: Doublelift. That's a funny way to spell Wolf
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Inven's Top 23 Players at World's is a much better article imo altho Biofrost is on the list but Meiko isn't and Deft is ranked a little higher than I think he might be.
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RealFoxy posted:Inven's Top 23 Players at World's is a much better article imo altho Biofrost is on the list but Meiko isn't and Deft is ranked a little higher than I think he might be. I would put Meiko on the list but it's a good list. I haven't read the riot one yet.
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i was extremely hype for the Mata/Uzi lane but there is no way you could put Mata ahead of Meiko. unless you're a korean. edit: just so its clear to people here who may not realize, inven is just korean reddit. they're the people who brought you the "china is going to kick every korean out of the country and all of the imported players are signing with your favorite team!" rumor rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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rabidsquid posted:i was extremely hype for the Mata/Uzi lane but there is no way you could put Mata ahead of Meiko. unless you're a korean. Savage Cracker posted:Isn't Inven basically just Korean Reddit ?
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Monte's video was useful but absurdly long, and I hope someone writes up or he produces a more easily digestible version in the future. Personally I just threw it on in the background and listened closer to the sections that caught my attention.exethan posted:I don't think people appreciate how dumb it is to argue salary grievances over twitter. It may make the company look worse than you but other companies will and should want to avoid hiring you I think it's important to use any piece of social media to bring issues like this to the table especially for esports; exposure trumps how appropriate the medium is. As much as people have laughed about the comparisons to actors/talent, it's applicable because LoL isn't going to last forever and casters (especially those who want to make a lifetime career of it in esports) need to be able to build up a diverse portfolio and have some kind of industry standard to work from and negotiate with. I definitely agree that Monte is burning bridges outside of those with Riot but if he's arrogant enough to think he can stay in esports and still find gigs then it's good that he is voicing some legitimate concerns. Riot only seems to do the right thing when they are called out in public so hopefully this has a good impact in the long run. Servaetes posted:I mean whether or not you see it as lovely is one thing but it makes complete sense that Riot or any other big company on earth wouldn't want their employees to moonlight other products or even themselves because the whole point is promoting their product. Being employed as a caster by Riot isn't like being a commentator in the AFL; the latter can guarantee you a lifelong career with plenty of opportunities to earn extra income through journalism, other shows and sponsorships/advertisements (see: Dennis Cometti who is retiring this year). There is no hint that Riot has another esports title in the works, so being unable to cast other games or even produce unique content hamstrings them. It looks great on a CV certainly but then there's no way for them to show diversity in other genres or if they are capable of producing content for tie-in shows etc.
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Hot take: I think TSM are going to not suck at worlds. Hauntzer is garbage relative to the competition and Svenskeren is hit and miss but Bjergsen is at a level right now that no other western player has ever hit.
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The Mash posted:Hot take: I think TSM are going to not suck at worlds. Hauntzer is garbage relative to the competition and Svenskeren is hit and miss but Bjergsen is at a level right now that no other western player has ever hit. I think they are going to be Top 4, but I also think RNG is going to be top 4 and probably win their group. I feel like final four will be TSM + 3 of SKT/ROX/EDG/RNG but I don't know who I would count out at this point, I actually feel least confident about SKT, but they always turn it up to another gear when Worlds comes around so it seems unsafe to even think about snubbing them. I feel like it would be extremely unlikely to not have at least one Western team in the semifinals. Only in S4/2014 did 4 Asian teams end up in the Final 4. G2 and TSM both look really high ceiling this year and could both be Final 4 teams if they roll hard. I'm most concerned for TSM's group phase because I think Group D is a literal murderer's row and if they catch one or two bad breaks they could literally be eliminated, there's not going to be any free games in that group period.
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the general laws of esports demand tsm to flame out horribly based on the hype but i hope they do well
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 No interview ever goes for over an hour on TV, unless it's like Lance Armstrong crying on Oprah about losing 7 Tour de France titles. Even that is only an hour, and way less if you count commercials. And no, I don't watch that poo poo.
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Safety Scissors posted:
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You missed the point entirely. The point was that just because they're in the entertainment industry, doesn't mean the things they do in their off time have to be interesting as well, and just because it's not interesting or entertaining to you doesn't mean someone else doesn't like it.
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I've watched literally all videos RL, Thorin and Monte (and Moses and Anders) have put out in at least the last 6 months. It's good background noise when I'm playing league or rocket league
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Parallel Playa posted:I've watched literally all videos RL, Thorin and Monte (and Moses and Anders) have put out in at least the last 6 months. It's good background noise when I'm playing league or rocket league psycopath
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Luna Was Here posted:You missed the point entirely. The point was that just because they're in the entertainment industry, doesn't mean the things they do in their off time have to be interesting as well, and just because it's not interesting or entertaining to you doesn't mean someone else doesn't like it. idk, when someone makes a statement like "When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars." I expect some basic effort to try and reach a wider audience. Otherwise you come off as a idiot man child simply blowing hot air. Maybe that's just me.
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Safety Scissors posted:idk, when someone makes a statement like "When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars." I expect some basic effort to try and reach a wider audience. Otherwise you come off as a idiot man child simply blowing hot air. Maybe that's just me. Whoa now
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i thought some of you might find this interesting, this guy has modeled some information and it spit out some numbers indicating how strong it thought the teams are in each worlds group: https://twitter.com/EsportsDS interesting tidbits, it thinks EDG is the strongest team overall and thinks that SSG are going to eat poo poo edit: it also hates c9 and really likes g2
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I don't understand how Wolf/Bang get so hyped up. Before season 5 they were literally known as the botlane that just goes even and plays super safe. The best botlaners left to LPL which left Bang and a returning Pray as LCK's new kings of ADC. Also Score was the same as Bang but way better than he ever was except he had to play with Insec fkin top and vs other adcs like Imp/Piglet/Pray/Deft/Emperor. Bang's best traits are that he plays with 4 other koreans, one of them is the best player of all time and all the other good adcs left his region.
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rabidsquid posted:it thinks EDG is the strongest team overall and thinks that SSG are going to eat poo poo edit: it also hates c9 and really likes g2 I agree with both of these statements and his pools look very similar to mine with a few slight variations.
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Burying the lede on that data analysis: it has TSM as the third strongest worlds team and predicts that they will find power from their group and emerge victorious, destroying rox and edg en route to claiming their title as the one and only worlds strongest
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Bang has been a pretty strong carry on SKT when the team chose to play around him as the main win condition. That's a talent, even if he is ultimately Joe Johnson on the Suns.
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I think when people consider bang its hard to get that one lucian game out of your mind. It left an indelible impression on those who have seen it.
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Jerkface posted:Burying the lede on that data analysis: it has TSM as the third strongest worlds team and predicts that they will find power from their group and emerge victorious, destroying rox and edg en route to claiming their title as the one and only worlds strongest Impossible! No! These "Warriors" have hidden power... beyond anything we've ever seen!
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rabidsquid posted:Bang has been a pretty strong carry on SKT when the team chose to play around him as the main win condition. That's a talent, even if he is ultimately Joe Johnson on the Suns. Sounds like Rekkles to me mate.
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Ulio posted:I don't understand how Wolf/Bang get so hyped up. Before season 5 they were literally known as the botlane that just goes even and plays super safe. The best botlaners left to LPL which left Bang and a returning Pray as LCK's new kings of ADC. Also Score was the same as Bang but way better than he ever was except he had to play with Insec fkin top and vs other adcs like Imp/Piglet/Pray/Deft/Emperor. it is kinda funny to me how nobody knew or cared about any skt s players before they merged with k and got faker
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