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Want to be the obligatory Poloma in some goon 3v3s
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Sep 25, 2016 04:14
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How does the game try match 3v3? Is it always support + ranged + melee or what?
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Sep 25, 2016 04:29
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steakmancer posted:Want to be the obligatory Poloma in some goon 3v3s we call this "the strong bird"
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Sep 25, 2016 04:32
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i tried playing last night at like 2 AM and it was the fuckin dregs my man
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Sep 25, 2016 05:20
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What is this game balanced for? 2v2 or 3v3? Everyone I play with prefers 2v2.
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Sep 25, 2016 12:51
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Loutre posted:What is this game balanced for? 2v2 or 3v3? Everyone I play with prefers 2v2. I hope it's balanced for 3v3. It feels way more dynamic. I prefer 3v3 by a large margin.
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Sep 25, 2016 12:59
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Loutre posted:What is this game balanced for? 2v2 or 3v3? Everyone I play with prefers 2v2. Hopefully both, heals already have modifiers depending on the player count iirc.
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Sep 25, 2016 13:50
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Pearl is such a loving beast. The rite that makes her dive charge her silence is so brutal. Then give it splash damage and just prevent the enemy team from doing anything.
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Sep 25, 2016 15:23
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I think many people (Rook players) underestimate Boulder Toss. The AoE is so big that if you target anyone that's not already moving (i.e. someone who is already using an ability), they'll either have to use an ability to dodge it (or put a shield on) or take the damage. I've been going for both boulder battlerites so it deals more damage and can be spammed even more and it has been really effective. It's just very disruptive and it makes it so much easier to land good rushes and deal melee damage when people used their mobility skills to dodge a boulder (or to get back after being knocked away/out of position).
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Sep 25, 2016 18:07
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Walh Hara posted:I think many people (Rook players) underestimate Boulder Toss. The AoE is so big that if you target anyone that's not already moving (i.e. someone who is already using an ability), they'll either have to use an ability to dodge it (or put a shield on) or take the damage. I've been going for both boulder battlerites so it deals more damage and can be spammed even more and it has been really effective. It's just very disruptive and it makes it so much easier to land good rushes and deal melee damage when people used their mobility skills to dodge a boulder (or to get back after being knocked away/out of position). Same for the croak players who don't get the extra charge on his spit
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Sep 25, 2016 18:32
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I like to get the armor break boulder and the weapon break. Landing a 2 or 3 person boulder can totally screw the opposition.
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Sep 25, 2016 18:40
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12k people online now apparently. Pretty good for early access, right?
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Sep 25, 2016 19:09
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Pretty decent for something that isn't a survival game.
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Sep 25, 2016 19:58
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Pretty good for the Dota-styled MOBA.
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Sep 25, 2016 20:16
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Decided to stick to Shifu for a while to see if just playing him over and over would unlock anything in my brain. Nope. Took about ten matches for me to win even one. I just don't get this man.
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Sep 25, 2016 21:23
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HMS Boromir posted:Decided to stick to Shifu for a while to see if just playing him over and over would unlock anything in my brain. Nope. Took about ten matches for me to win even one. I just don't get this man. Hit 'em with the pointy end, mate. Shifu is trickier than some of the other DPS because other than his M1/M2 combo, everything in his kit can be used either defensively or offensively. The invis and javelin throw in particular are both good at initiating and escaping. Knowing when to pressure and when to back off is key. You might find you're better with him as you gain more experience with the ebb and flow of battle in general. Watch for enemies with their escapes on cooldown, or who are separated, then dive in. Leave up an escape for when their teammate comes in to save them.
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Sep 25, 2016 21:39
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A couple of pretty high rated dudes are streaming over here: https://www.twitch.tv/nfmanewhope They answer questions from chat, talk about the game and seem pretty chill in general  I've been finding it pretty helpful
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Sep 25, 2016 23:10
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I've never played anything like this before but everyone's saying it's the bee's knees, as a complete ignoramus who doesn't understand any of the terminology being thrown around how bad a time am I in for if I decide to give this a shot?
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Sep 26, 2016 00:23
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Some random observations: Pearl really is busted, it's hard to want to REALLY train with her because you have to suppose she's getting nerfed soon. Personally I think that the Power of the Deep battlerite (round 1, weapon charges on dive) should just become part of Dive, Pearl should start with her weapon charged like Sirius, and then the power of Volatile Water should be nerfed to a point where that's not imbalanced. Right now Power of the Deep is the most mandatory battlerite in the whole game, and then when you have it Pearl is bustaroni and cheese. The second-most mandatory Battlerite is Shifu's Poised To Strike (round 2, 3 weapon charges on Kunju) and I also think it should be part of Kunju, and the damage per charge probably lowered to 4 to compensate. You could also take off the immaterial from Kunju and make THAT the battlerite, with a bit more duration. I don't know what the third most mandatory battlerite is. Maybe Vareh's Return (round 1, can recast a successful Wuju within 1.5s) or Oldur's Renew (round 2, Rejuvenating sand heals 8 more health after 3.5s)? I DON"T think it's Jade evasion (round 1, Stealth makes you immaterial for 1s) - Desperado is actually really strong when they have a healer and you don't, so even though Evasion is really good, I take Desperado semi-frequently. Sirius gets the most points inflation in the whole game. In general, I think low score does usually mean you're bad but the difference between a middling score and a very high score doesn't mean a big difference in terms of player skill - folks like Sirius and Pearl just get points like candy, and sometimes you do the most for your team by just kiting 2v1 while your buddy gets up to shenanigans. I do think that Rook and Lucie seem like the most UP champs right now. Probably Oldur in third and Iva in fourth. (All of these rankings are for 2's.) For Rook, I think what he REALLY needs is some non-trance, non-battlerite way to trigger Berserk. It's kind of stupid that you get EITHER the stun on Berserk, OR Berserk on landing rush, but they're both round 1 battlerites. So if you take the stun in berserk, you can only get that berserk by them messing up and hitting trance, and if you take the berserk on landing rush, you don't get either of the battlerites that buff berserk. Right now a major part of Rook's kit is totally dependent on enemies triggering trance, and like, what if your opponents are just good? Also, the change I want the most is for Stunlock to fix circular abilities to not always be bigger than their circles. Even if it super-benefits me as a Sirius player.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:56
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hito posted:Also, the change I want the most is for Stunlock to fix circular abilities to not always be bigger than their circles. Even if it super-benefits me as a Sirius player. Is this actually the case or are the hero circles getting clipped? You can see a circle below the hero model that represents their actual hitbox.
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Sep 26, 2016 01:04
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hito posted:
Yeah, I take Renew every single time. Oldur's healing feels very underwhelming without it. I also always take the rite that gives Iva bounce on Taser. It pretty much guarantees that someone will get interrupted, and I get double interrupts off it fairly often. Easy set up for a shotgun or, depending on the mobility cooldowns they have up, a rocket.
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Sep 26, 2016 01:25
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After tanking my rating way down while teaching a buddy how to play, went on a 10 game winstreak today and pulled myself back up to 3400 rating. Scored two ragequits along the way, one on a Rook, another on a Bakko. I wonder when melee players will learn that they can't manmode a drain-tank Croak?
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Sep 26, 2016 02:15
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I'm super salty about rating because I started by duoing with a not-great buddy and tanked my rating early and now it's a mega-slog to get up through the 2000's. I can carry most games but I'm getting like 10 points on a 3-0 and I'm at 2300.
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Sep 26, 2016 02:20
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AttackBacon posted:I'm super salty about rating because I started by duoing with a not-great buddy and tanked my rating early and now it's a mega-slog to get up through the 2000's. I can carry most games but I'm getting like 10 points on a 3-0 and I'm at 2300. I was getting like 5 points for a win a couple days ago (over like 20-30 wins), then all of a sudden I'm getting 25-30 per win again.  Stunlock doesn't use Elo, they use a different system I think.
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Sep 26, 2016 02:29
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Brannock posted:I was getting like 5 points for a win a couple days ago (over like 20-30 wins), then all of a sudden I'm getting 25-30 per win again. I think they've said they use something similar to microsoft's "trueskill" system https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/trueskill-ranking-system/
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Sep 26, 2016 02:40
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hito posted:Pearl really is busted, it's hard to want to REALLY train with her because you have to suppose she's getting nerfed soon. Personally I think that the Power of the Deep battlerite (round 1, weapon charges on dive) should just become part of Dive, Pearl should start with her weapon charged like Sirius, and then the power of Volatile Water should be nerfed to a point where that's not imbalanced. Right now Power of the Deep is the most mandatory battlerite in the whole game, and then when you have it Pearl is bustaroni and cheese. There's actually a glitchy thing you can do to start the game with your M1 charged as Pearl. If you Power of the Deep and use Dive exactly as everyone else finishes their picks, such that you disappear underwater while the practice dummies are still up but jump back up out of the water once everyone's auto-mounted, you'll be placed on your mount with your staff glowing purple.
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Sep 26, 2016 02:51
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Unironically love playing Pearl and having a teammate cross the bubble I laid down, only to instantly die since Jade used her ultimate in it.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:02
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I AM BRAWW posted:Unironically love playing Pearl and having a teammate cross the bubble I laid down, only to instantly die since Jade used her ultimate in it. Gonna try to get a replay later, but I had a game today where my partner Taya filled the enemy Pearl's bubble with boomerangs and then I charged the Pearl through the bubble as Bakko and she just instantly exploded.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:05
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hito posted:Some random observations: rook is currently the best noob stomping hero in the game. His counter is really quite strong, and armor break is super strong. I agree that oldur seems a bit under powered though. Also pearl chain heal rite is great in 3v3. Still think getting the silence is better most games.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:10
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Buff Alchemist, nerf Psychopomp
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Sep 26, 2016 05:07
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Dont bully!!!
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Sep 26, 2016 05:13
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Best ranged: Varesh Worst: Jade Best melee: Shifu Worst: Rook Best healer: Poloma Worst: Sirius
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Sep 26, 2016 05:46
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Counterpoint: They're all the best and the worst simultaneously.
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Sep 26, 2016 05:55
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Kai Tave posted:I've never played anything like this before but everyone's saying it's the bee's knees, as a complete ignoramus who doesn't understand any of the terminology being thrown around how bad a time am I in for if I decide to give this a shot? Everything is intuitive and the game is fun even if you're just starting out. Give it a shot if you like competitive games, worst case you can refund it.
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Sep 26, 2016 06:00
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Brannock posted:Best ranged: Varesh If this is 2's, I really don't think you can say Iva is better than Jade. I guess you sort of get the illusion of it because when Iva goes off, she can really go off. But Iva can just get stone cold shut out a lot easier than Jade, especially when people start actually accounting for the jetpack back.
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Sep 26, 2016 06:15
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Didn't the winners of Ultiduo run a Pearl Iva comp?
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Sep 26, 2016 06:26
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hito posted:If this is 2's, I really don't think you can say Iva is better than Jade. Iva has a whole load more utility than Jade, is the thing. You have Taser, Gunge, Zap... Also I very rarely take U-Turn, opting for double Taser instead
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Sep 26, 2016 06:46
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Oldur is weaker than sirius imho
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Sep 26, 2016 08:46
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What can Varesh do against melee tunnel if he blows his wuju?
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Sep 26, 2016 09:19
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Do we know who the next heroes will be? I heard there was a teaser out but I can't find it now.
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