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SynthOrange posted:I was watching a few videos of the thing and it just kept breaking the handle laffo when's this dude gonna build the spider tank
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Sham bam bamina! posted:ring hole 10/10
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Isometric fidget cube status: 5 million buckazoids
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truck manufacturers say "military grade aluminum" because they found that aluminum alone doesn't sound masculine
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computer parts posted:truck manufacturers say "military grade aluminum" because they found that aluminum alone doesn't sound masculine well and those stupid chevrolet ads about how ford trucks are built of aluminum, a weak feminine metal, but their trucks are built of steel, like NUCLEAR SUBMARINES
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SynthOrange posted:Isometric fidget cube status: 5 million buckazoids cool so this has basically doomed it to failure
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If they got the math wrong on the shipping or the scaling up of production yeah
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well it's a hardware kickstarter sooooo
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what blows my mind is i just got into this business of 'making stuff in china' via some partners. i tell them about these kickstarters and they laugh and laugh and laugh, having made stuff there for 20 years. that fidget thing would take 90 days and cost < $10/ea if I made it, from right now. this whole 365+ day thing + $100/ea thing is insane.
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Sep 26, 2016 09:37
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Nah the prices on ks vary between $15-20 per cube depending on which level you bought in at I think? where'd you get the $100 figure?
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Sep 26, 2016 09:42
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the inevitable delays and mandatory "extras" that people have to buy if they want to get their rewards before they go to retail.
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Beast of Bourbon posted:what blows my mind is i just got into this business of 'making stuff in china' via some partners. i thought the hard part was having your stuff actually done and bribing the correct people etc which is actually super hard to get correctly unless you have local connections and poo poo ?
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Chinese courts are so hilariously anti-foreigner that you'd have better luck finding a meth head to house sit for you than a small-run manufacturer who can deliver on time, on spec, and on budget
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lol their first project was a book about how to be good at kickstarter that was not successfully funded on kickstarter
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ahmeni posted:well it's a hardware kickstarter sooooo it's a hardware component that doesn't actually need to function, and any manufacturing bullshit that makes things stick in place or whatever will just be spun as "extra good for advanced fidgeting!!!" or whatever
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that's the beauty of it, it doesn't do anything
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If I had presold a shitload of widgets and now China dude was promising me they could make for "under $10 each, totally" but I presold them for like $14, I'd be breaking out in a nervous sweat and breathing into a paper bag.
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Mister Sinewave posted:If I had presold a shitload of widgets and now China dude was promising me they could make for "under $10 each, totally" but I presold them for like $14, I'd be breaking out in a nervous sweat and breathing into a paper bag. what spread would you need to feel comfortable
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:what spread would you need to feel comfortable probably something like 10 times the cost, seriously
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Sagebrush posted:well and those stupid chevrolet ads about how ford trucks are built of aluminum, a weak feminine metal, but their trucks are built of steel, like NUCLEAR SUBMARINES aluminium in cars is good (more predictable crumple pattern iirc & rust resistance) but lomarf at making any kind of blade with it that thing is going to have the durability of wet toilet paper
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:what spread would you need to feel comfortable I guess if we're talking serious it depends on what that number does or doesn't include (e: and whether it's a reliable quote or just a "promise", etc) But if I'm a startup and that figure is just "factory has made a pile of the things in a big box" and getting it from factory into a few hundred thousand people's hands isn't sorted yet, etc and I've already burnt 2/3+ of the selling price then yeah I'd be sharpening my pencil
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selling the product for about 4x the raw production cost is the general standard
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If my total cost of my product getting factory made and shipped to customers left me with ~1/3 of the selling price I'd be ok with that. Not thrilled really, but I'd be confident I would pay my own overhead and cover any RMAs, etc. It doesn't leave much if anything to roll into the next product, so as a startup not a spectacular success but I'd be confident everyone gets paid; life and business could be & frequently is worse.
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OK, it's not an actual gold disc, but this seems like a fun nerd-sci KS to go next to your NASA Design Manual and the Apollo Project logs https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ozmarecords/voyager-golden-record-40th-anniversary-edition
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yeah, where HW kick starters really fail is when they plan to do assembly or some other mfg portion themselves and die to scale, or perfectly calculate the BOM then forget about 3PL or any facet of distribution and assume anything over that is gravy
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NoneMoreNegative posted:OK, it's not an actual gold disc, but this seems like a fun nerd-sci KS to go next to your NASA Design Manual and the Apollo Project logs
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i am never going to get my autism stim-dice
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Vicas posted:i am never going to get my autism stim-dice fallback plan specifically tailored to you: buy a dead n64 controller, fidget with it using your feet
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BobHoward posted:fallback plan specifically tailored to you: buy a dead n64 controller, fidget with it using your feet plus point: if you are a lady of any description, a subscription video channel of this will probably pay your rent.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:plus point: if you are a lady of any description, a subscription video channel of this will probably pay your rent. hell, even a thinner nerd would do, provided you stay slightly below knee
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One thing that Kickstarter has created is an era of the saddest estate sales in human history 30 years from now.
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Agile Vector posted:hell, even a thinner nerd would do, provided you stay slightly below knee http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73DE16A93068B9EF 
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Beast of Bourbon posted:what blows my mind is i just got into this business of 'making stuff in china' via some partners. i tell them about these kickstarters and they laugh and laugh and laugh, having made stuff there for 20 years. that fidget thing would take 90 days and cost < $10/ea if I made it, from right now. this whole 365+ day thing + $100/ea thing is insane. how much of Poorly Made In China is true?
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i haven't seen it, link?
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surebet posted:aluminium in cars is good (more predictable crumple pattern iirc & rust resistance) but lomarf at making any kind of blade with it I think its a bit situational maybe. like iirc aluminum taken closer to / over a deflection/load threshold gets like super-weakened compared to a piece of steel that hits the same loading per unit of strength? if that makes any sense? like with the aluminum rails on the pickups, sure they'll be great as long as you never wail on it, but the first time you did the whole drop-a-spool-from-a-crane-thing like they do in the truck commercials, the Al frame is ruined strength-wise, whereas the steel one's just bent
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Beast of Bourbon posted:i haven't seen it, link? it's a book
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Wild EEPROM posted:it's a book you still see books, ideally you see every page in sequence
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Jonny 290 posted:I think its a bit situational maybe. like iirc aluminum taken closer to / over a deflection/load threshold gets like super-weakened compared to a piece of steel that hits the same loading per unit of strength? if that makes any sense? can I still put wagon wheels and big ol mud tires on it for commuting on the highway?
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Jonny 290 posted:I think its a bit situational maybe. like iirc aluminum taken closer to / over a deflection/load threshold gets like super-weakened compared to a piece of steel that hits the same loading per unit of strength? if that makes any sense? Even on the aluminum pickups they're still using a steel frame underneath, the body and bed are just for weight saving. That said, my truck has more than a few small holes in the bed from rust years and years ago and they don't really affect anything, unless you haul stuff that fits through one of them. So the buyers will still get better mileage on the mall crawlers and mechanics will have an easier cab to lift for doing basic repairs to the engine, win win for the people who actually buy those.
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