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OxySnake posted:Things Ive heard so far post debate: they were thinking trump won it yesterday, that's how they think he won it.
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speng31b posted:What? No. If the goal is to line your pockets as fat as you can, Trump is a good business man. He exploits tax law, bankruptcy law, etc to make the most money possible. If the goal is to grow employees and help them prosper, he's a terrible business man. He is the epitome of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and you can't have someone like that as POTUS. The deck is already stacked against the poor without having Donald Trump as the dealer.
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:yes I also believe the candidate who would try to negotiate the debt down would be the best purely fiscal candidate, and am also a huge retard too Except much of the US debt is held by the US (and it's citizens) so who would he be negotiating with exactly?
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Sep 27, 2016 04:33
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Neo Rasa posted:"I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" There are a lot of moments to remember in that debate but I like the ~5 minutes of Trump urging people to check out Hillary's website
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Sep 27, 2016 04:34
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Gio posted:Here, I'll repeat it and even elaborate. I want to know what universe this was in because Clinton had Trump irreparably floundering on literally the first question.
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Sep 27, 2016 04:33
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CNN/ORC poll -- 62% Clinton, 27% Trump e: per the poll question, Who won the debate?
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Also Props to Clintons campaign twitter staff for tossing shade all through the debates.
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Pakled posted:There are a lot of moments to remember in that debate but I like the ~5 minutes of Trump urging people to check out Hillary's website "Yeah, visit her website. That'll show her! And donate while you're there. Donate money to her. See if I care! Do it anyways I dare you!"
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Lightning Knight posted:She tried to walk the thin line of not scaring white people with talk of how bad it really was. She hit the basic points, that racism is still a thing and we need to end racism, but she seemed deeply uncomfortable and out of her depth to me. It was definitely her most awkward treading ground since she matched every "police have to be nice to minorities" with "minorities have to respect the police. It didn't really work Everything else she did was great imo
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Scrapez posted:I think that when it comes to monetary concerns, he would probably make a better president than Hillary Clinton. Scrapez posted:He is the epitome of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and you can't have someone like that as POTUS. The deck is already stacked against the poor without having Donald Trump as the dealer. 
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Sep 27, 2016 04:35
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insta-poll: 62-27 hillary won.
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Sep 27, 2016 04:36
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:CNN/ORC poll -- 62% Clinton, 27% Trump that's a pretty crazy thrashing.
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[quote="Zophar" post="464706097"] I want to know what universe this was in because Clinton had Trump irreparably floundering on literally the first question.Trump wanted to talk big stuff that matters. In November you will see that I am right. It's true that Trump is polarizing, I just think those on the left side of the divide underestimate the amount of people on the right side. The silent majority is a real thing, it's just that it isn't religion that pulls them together.
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Scrapez posted:Well, to that end, I think he's a terrible person but I think he's a good business man that exploits the rules in his favor. The fact that he knows the loopholes for corporations puts him in a position to close them. He doesn't know poo poo about loopholes, his accountants do. You think he has the slightest interest in the actual legal mechanics?
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Good lord Trump got brutally stomped. I used to have a more "Anyone but Trump" mindset, but this debate has me much happier about the idea of Hillary as president.
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I thought that was the case too, but the C-SPAN cameras showed Trump shake hands with somebody off the stage and then circle back to Holt to shake his hand.
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The right wing is furious about Lester Holt. If you thought they got angry about Cindy Crowley, I think they're going to be howling for blood this time.
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pigz posted:that's a pretty crazy thrashing. same as romney's margin over obama after debate 1 in 2012 which...jesus you would think it would have been a bigger margin than that?
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PainterofCrap posted:He's losing it. drat, this is more fun that the Eagles beating up the Steelers 
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Gio posted:Here, I'll repeat it and even elaborate. Is it your desire to have an incoherent idiot bully running your country, or is this something you're viewing with a degree of fatalism?
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I missed the whole thing and don't want to wade through a mountain of posts. Can anyone give me concise summary of how it went down?
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Subjunctive posted:He doesn't know poo poo about loopholes, his accountants do. You think he has the slightest interest in the actual legal mechanics? Which is part of what made it so hilarious when he was whining about how inconvenient it was when he gets audited. Yeah, he cares - because he sits down, sighs, wrings his tiny little orange hands and fires up the ol' TurboTax.
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Alright, so I'm kind of an intentionally ignorant voter, and I've never really weighed in on US politics before. I've been staying out of the political game for a long time now, because ultimately I have a distrust of the US media narrative for a lot of different reasons, most of which are probably valid. I've also lived in Seattle most of my life, so nobody really gives a poo poo what I think because our state will go with whoever is the Democratic candidate regardless, and it truly does not mater who I support. Anyway, I mention this all because I really came into the debate wanting both candidates to lose, because I didn't initially respect either one of them. I was previously planning on voting third party as a protest vote (Jill Stein). Furthermore, I've always hated the presidential "debates" because I've felt that it's merely a pulpit to spew talking points rather than any serious analysis of whatever the issues of the day currently are. Anyway, I came out of this thing as a firm Hilary supporter, and I'll vote for her now. I don't really agree with her 100%, but I think she'd be good enough. That said, I really wish that the debate moderator would grow some balls and have cut Trump off when he was obviously running long spewing his bullshit. I also really wish we could have an actual debate where it's okay to reconsider a viewpoint on an issue given a good argument by the other party.
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Just in case any of you see suspicious looking polls. poo poo like this is the reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/54oj6f/centipedes_you_know_what_to_dolist_of_all/?st=ITKXNCGK&sh=72e3268f
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Oxphocker posted:Except much of the US debt is held by the US (and it's citizens) so who would he be negotiating with exactly?  for real tho I'm not sure how anyone can think to themselves that Donald Trump represents any brand of fiscal responsibility but here we are in the timeline we deserve
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Sep 27, 2016 04:39
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What the heck was that thing about 800 people being deported becoming US citizens?
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Colbert is feeling it tonight.
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Mange Mite posted:Lester Holt was honestly a bit biased when he wasn't getting steamrolled I kind of agree? But when Trump is pushing out nonstop bullshit how can't you be? Hillary was doing typical politician spin but Trump just outright lies and lies and interrupts so I'm not sure what the hell else you're gonna do. You can't treat them equally if one guy is lying 100x more
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Sep 27, 2016 04:41
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Holt wasn't biased, he was loving fact checking
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Panfilo posted:I missed the whole thing and don't want to wade through a mountain of posts. Can anyone give me concise summary of how it went down? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA
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Panfilo posted:I missed the whole thing and don't want to wade through a mountain of posts. Can anyone give me concise summary of how it went down? Trump looked composed and presidential for about 3-5 minutes, then had a complete and total meltdown for the rest of the time.
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Sep 27, 2016 04:43
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"Who won the debate?" and "Who are you voting for?" are very different questions. Don't think this has clinched it for her.
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Sep 27, 2016 04:42
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Panfilo posted:I missed the whole thing and don't want to wade through a mountain of posts. Can anyone give me concise summary of how it went down? Trump basically made up a bunch of fake overwatch heroes while Hillary made blue posts nonstop.
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Fojar38 posted:Holt wasn't biased, he was loving fact checking Holt did a good job. He called obvious bullshit but wasn't over zealous so Trump and Co could get a narrative of bias going.
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Old James posted:"Who won the debate?" and "Who are you voting for?" are very different questions. Don't think this has clinched it for her. but there is this https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/780611949881098240
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Scent of Worf posted:Just in case any of you see suspicious looking polls. poo poo like this is the reason: Is that actually Donald Trump calling for his supporters to manipulate polls?
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Fojar38 posted:Holt wasn't biased, he was loving fact checking Yeah, but apparently he wasn't expected to - did you listen to all the media hand-wringing beforehand about how "it isn't the moderator's job" to fact check? Apparently debates are more about "letting candidates exhibit their demeanor" than discussions of actual facts, because there's "more than enough election cycle to account for facts" and that's not what the debates are for. Or at least that's the latest excuse for toothless moderation.
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