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Who What Now posted:How about you do me one better and show where in the study it says that the problems absolutely can't be attributed to things like poverty or social status. When did I say that wasn't a factor?
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Ze Pollack posted:That you confuse statements of verifiable reality with commands explains a great deal of your worldview, not gonna lie. so you're still being a goddamned coward about making a prediction, what a shock. Maybe you're not as confident as all that poo poo you keep writing?
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Crowsbeak posted:When did I say that wasn't a factor? Every single time flatly ignored people bringing up other factors to say that no, it only matters that there is a two parent household. Like here: Crowsbeak posted:Well show me research that thats better then a two parent home.
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Who What Now posted:Every single time flatly ignored people bringing up other factors to say that no, it only matters that there is a two parent household. Like here: Wait asking for research that being raised by a single parent is better is now ignoring other factors? Good to know.
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Crowsbeak posted:Wait asking for research that being raised by a single parent is better is now ignoring other factors? Good to know. Your own study says that you can't conclude the children's performance is directly attributable to their parental situation, what about that don't you get?
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Sep 26, 2016 21:31
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Who What Now posted:Your own study says that you can't conclude the children's performance is directly attributable to their parental situation, what about that don't you get?
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gobbagool posted:so you're still being a goddamned coward about making a prediction, what a shock. Maybe you're not as confident as all that poo poo you keep writing? The Republican Party will continue to lose the Latino vote by overwhelming percentages until such time as they stop pushing "gently caress the mexicans" as a policy, GBS rereg man. That you hate people saying this, unfortunately, does not make it stop being true.
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Ze Pollack posted:The Republican Party will continue to lose the Latino vote by overwhelming percentages until such time as they stop pushing "gently caress the mexicans" as a policy, GBS rereg man. So if Trump gets more Latino votes than Romney, then what? Will you clutch pearls until your hands bleed? Or just continue posting, horribly?
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One thing I really hate about the rise of the alt-right is that yet more liberals have fallen into the trap of thinking neocons and Ayn Rand disciples are "reasonable Republicans" just because because they're not Donald Trump. There's no reason whatsoever to praise Bill Kristol's handpicked neocon just because he's not an open racist. https://twitter.com/Toure/status/780059471301251072
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I think the alt-right is an empty shell with no ideas that can accomplish anything in government. I worry that their candidates including Trump are puppets for anyone with some sort of workable policy idea that might come along. I think this is the end game of the hollowing out of the GOP. It's hard to imagine any conservative government in the US that doesn't exist to serve big business, at least in the domistic pshere.
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gobbagool posted:So if Trump gets more Latino votes than Romney, then what? Will you clutch pearls until your hands bleed? Or just continue posting, horribly? If Trump gets a higher percentage of Latino votes than Mitt Romney, then I will have been wrong, and will need to adapt. It's not a hard thing to do, really. Had you tried it at any point in the last eight years, you would not currently be spitting "no, that's not true, that's impossible!" at someone who pointed out that Hispanics break overwhelmingly in favor of Democratic candidates, and this trend shows no signs of reversing.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think the alt-right is an empty shell with no ideas that can accomplish anything in government. I worry that their candidates including Trump are puppets for anyone with some sort of workable policy idea that might come along. I think this is the end game of the hollowing out of the GOP. It's hard to imagine any conservative government in the US that doesn't exist to serve big business, at least in the domistic pshere. Alt-right is a prop in political marketing that got thrown out there in desperate hope that somebody would take the bait and flock towards it. Alternatively, it's a proof that people who communicate primarily through Twitter are isolated from the real world and have no loving clue.
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Whatever happened to the Dark Enlightenment? I guess being philosophically spooky got eclipsed by Milo's antics.
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(((Alt-right))) is a dog-whistle term for leftoids who realized that they had diluted the epithet "racist" into meaninglessness.
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McDowell posted:Whatever happened to the Dark Enlightenment? I guess being philosophically spooky got eclipsed by Milo's antics. People forgot about it.
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They are significantly better to deal with on economics and social issues. Mixed on war. Disgusting when it comes to race. I have mixed feelings on the shift.
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steinrokkan posted:The same thing that will happen to the alt-right in two months An Elephant Never Forgets  I'm a Jimmy Carter Republican
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Does everyone vaguely agree that somethingawful helped start the alt right? It feels like there was a distinct trend of posting "ironic" racism and sexism that slowly attracted people that held the same opinions but for real that then spun off into several external sites that held the 'ironic' values in real life. Like 4chan seems like it was directly born from "we read fyad now we want to post this stuff for real instead of just posting it as a joke"
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TheImmigrant posted:(((Alt-right))) is a dog-whistle term for leftoids who realized that they had diluted the epithet "racist" into meaninglessness. Nope. They're a distinct group of morons and bigots who've coalesced as a movement over the last year or so. Whether they have any staying power as a movement is another question.
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Hey guy, which is worse, Democratic Socialists or National Socialists?
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TheImmigrant posted:(((Alt-right))) is a dog-whistle term for leftoids who realized that they had diluted the epithet "racist" into meaninglessness.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think the alt-right is an empty shell with no ideas that can accomplish anything in government. I worry that their candidates including Trump are puppets for anyone with some sort of workable policy idea that might come along. I think this is the end game of the hollowing out of the GOP. It's hard to imagine any conservative government in the US that doesn't exist to serve big business, at least in the domistic pshere. That isn't true, they do have ideas. Enslave the blacks and gas the Jews, and white women should have to act like women in the first season of Madmen. (They just want themselves to be able to gently caress around not women).
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TheImmigrant posted:(((Alt-right))) is a dog-whistle term for leftoids who realized that they had diluted the epithet "racist" into meaninglessness. I'm sure everybody's still perfectly comfortable identifying you as a racist. What would we need a dogwhistle for? Owlofcreamcheese posted:Does everyone vaguely agree that somethingawful helped start the alt right? It feels like there was a distinct trend of posting "ironic" racism and sexism that slowly attracted people that held the same opinions but for real that then spun off into several external sites that held the 'ironic' values in real life. I think this is undeniable, particularly given things like SA being the epicenter of Gamergate.
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McDowell posted:Whatever happened to the Dark Enlightenment? I guess being philosophically spooky got eclipsed by Milo's antics. Peter Thiel was given a major speaking slot at the RNC, so in some sense they remain a presence. I'd say the general bloc of "rich tech idiots who don't think poors or women should be allowed to vote" is still sitting around, waiting to be cultivated as a donor base by a libertarianized GoP. It's not like there was ever a popular movement at their back.
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How is this any worse than the attitude that "anyone who doesn't have to eat ramen for every meal shouldn't be allowed to vote"?
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TheImmigrant posted:(((Alt-right))) Why'd you put the Jewish Echo around the name Alt-Right, a name that the movement chose for themselves? Are you saying that the Alt-Right movement is... what, comprised of self-hating Jews? That's certainly a novel claim.
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Who What Now posted:Why'd you put the Jewish Echo around the name Alt-Right, a name that the movement chose for themselves? Are you saying that the Alt-Right movement is... what, comprised of self-hating Jews? That's certainly a novel claim. No, that's not what I'm saying.
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TheImmigrant posted:No, that's not what I'm saying. Are you sure? Then what are you saying?
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PupsOfWar posted:I think this is undeniable, particularly given things like SA being the epicenter of Gamergate. SA feels like it has a segment of people that seem like they are maybe actually ironic posting then a lot of GBS threads where you can tell people are just inheriting the language FYAD used and just mean it now, then all the sites spun off seem to lack even pretending it's ironic. (Fyad had plenty of 4real bigotry too but it's the one place that when people said it was just role play I kinda accepted it as sometimes the truth)
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PupsOfWar posted:I think this is undeniable, particularly given things like SA being the epicenter of Gamergate. Now hang on, I remember the guy who started the whole debacle on the Games sub-forum with his whining diatribe about... Zoe Quinn? He was laughed out pretty much unanimously. He tried to start it here, but it didn't stick, not until after it blew up elsewhere.
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:Both Alt. Right Not-Nazis and The Animarxist LF SJW Left? A forum that was popular with college students in the early 2000s spawned a bunch of new internet based political movements 10 years later? That doesn't seem shocking.
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The alt right are the usual social rejects who would be in a different time and place wife-beating machos, or recruits of some pillaging warlord. They have no political ideas, they are just instinctively lashing out against things they see around them because they are frustrated, feel like there is nothing they can do with their lives, and as a consequence feel insecure and emaciated.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Does everyone vaguely agree that somethingawful helped start the alt right? It feels like there was a distinct trend of posting "ironic" racism and sexism that slowly attracted people that held the same opinions but for real that then spun off into several external sites that held the 'ironic' values in real life. Only in the sense that antibiotics helped cause antibiotic resistance. The mod team here has consistently stomped that poo poo down hard, and as a result we're the largest internet forum I'm aware of that isn't thoroughly infested with racism and misogyny.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Only in the sense that antibiotics helped cause antibiotic resistance. The mod team here has consistently stomped that poo poo down hard, and as a result we're the largest internet forum I'm aware of that isn't thoroughly infested with racism and misogyny. One of the subreddits right now is named "FYAD: High school girls are posting naked photos to tumblr and loving black guys right now" and the top post in that forum is just the word "hitler". And I do get it, fyad is a parody, it's one of the only things like that I honestly think the people are mostly just joking, but GBS often follows that lead and doesn't really "get" the joke and just posts the opinions, then by page 3 of every "ironic" sexism/racism/whatever thread it's always just people actual posting actual things they think. GBS couldn't go a day without talking about "troons" or "trannies" or chinese people or feminists or whatever.
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steinrokkan posted:The alt right are the usual social rejects who would be in a different time and place wife-beating machos, or recruits of some pillaging warlord. They have no political ideas, they are just instinctively lashing out against things they see around them because they are frustrated, feel like there is nothing they can do with their lives, and as a consequence feel insecure and emaciated. In the 50s or 60s they would be Ignatius T. Reiley. in medieval times they would be the camp followers.
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Samovar posted:Now hang on, I remember the guy who started the whole debacle on the Games sub-forum with his whining diatribe about... Zoe Quinn? He was laughed out pretty much unanimously. He tried to start it here, but it didn't stick, not until after it blew up elsewhere. Ah that was a fun thread, hundreds of pages of telling dumb nerds to get a life and stop obsessing about internet women.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:One of the subreddits right now is named "FYAD: High school girls are posting naked photos to tumblr and loving black guys right now" and the top post in that forum is just the word "hitler". That's a fair critique, but on the other hand, try posting in GBS right now. I'll admit I haven't read gbs/fyad in years but overall I think SA does a much better job fighting this problem than any other comparable internet forum.
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It certainly does in DnD, what with its apparent rep for being a leftist SJW liberal socialist feminazi echo chamber. Y'know, all those good things.
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