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lilljonas posted:I love how people can not even agree on things like the various paint jobs used by the Brits in North Africa, despite having access to tons of living participants, army documentation, etc. Despite all this, you still see arguments about which colours were actually used in the Caunter camo scheme. There are hardware store style paint chips in Russian military archives, and yet Vallejo 4BO bears no resemblance to the real deal.
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Ensign Expendable posted:There are hardware store style paint chips in Russian military archives, and yet Vallejo 4BO bears no resemblance to the real deal. Is that the yellow-green look they seem to go for?
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Fond memories of winning a Squad Leader scenario by hot rodding a halftrack across all the objective hexes I had to take in one turn
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Endman posted:Does anyone here have any experience with Muskets & Tomahawks? I'm considering getting it as an alternative to Sharp Practice with a smaller model count. Period would be the American War of Independence. http://jayswargamingmadness.blogspot.com/search/label/Muskets%20and%20Tomahawks?m=0 https://youtu.be/3LRggNgBdQY (Video bat rep explaining mechanics) I've played some, I enjoyed the system but found line infantry fire to be too lethal.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Dang, it looks like I could get an Armoured Fist box set of 3 half tracks and a box of infantry for not much more than 3 Rubicon half tracks. Then again, I do already have a box of infantry, that should be enough, right? quote:Each Rifle Platoon consisted of a HQ Squad, a Mortar Squad, a Light Machine Gun Squad and two Rifle Squads. The HQ Squad consisted of a Lieutenant, a Platoon Sergeant, a Squad Sergeant, a driver for the M3 halftrack, and eight riflemen. The driver carried a submachine gun, the Lieutenant, Platoon Sergeant and two riflemen, each carried carbines, the rest of the Squad rifles. Two riflemen carried carbines because the HQ halftrack also towed its own 37-mm antitank gun, for which they acted as gunner and loader. The only other issue of an antitank gun down to Rifle Platoon level I am aware of is in the German Panzer Grenadiers, where the 3.7-cm was actually mounted on the halftrack. Unfortunately in BA half-tracks can't tow a gun and transport infantry at the same time, so you'll have to get a separate tow for the gun like a jeep or a DWC 1/4 ton.
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spectralent posted:Is that the yellow-green look they seem to go for? They have a primer that's dark green and another colour that has way too much blue in it. The best 4BO I've seen so far was a Privateer Press colour that wasn't even for historicals.
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Grey Hunter posted:Crosspostin! Everything about this post rules. Looking forward to more write ups about solo FNG.
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WIP of my poor attempts at Brittish tanks:  I'm just learning so many things about what not to do when building tanks from these. I know there are at least 3 errors on them this far! :P
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Ensign Expendable posted:They have a primer that's dark green and another colour that has way too much blue in it. The best 4BO I've seen so far was a Privateer Press colour that wasn't even for historicals. Do you have any photos of those paint samples? I've seen loads of pictures of T-34s from various museums but they seem to range from near-black to moss-grey.
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I wrote an article about basing my dudes for bp/sp http://freshcoastgaming.blogspot.com/2016/09/basing-musket-era-troops-for-sharp.html?m=1 Also Charlie Foxtrot just came out with a cool tray for musket dudes https://www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/collections/new-releases/products/storage-tray
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spectralent posted:Do you have any photos of those paint samples? I've seen loads of pictures of T-34s from various museums but they seem to range from near-black to moss-grey. http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2014/02/fourth-colour.html There are also more documents regarding markings and painting here (scroll down to tank markings). You can also see photos of restorations of armoured vehicles and ships at this guy's Livejournal. He's the one that published the paint samples online, and according to him, this is the proper shade of green. 
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Grey Hunter posted:And for more Vietnam goodness, have a FNG battle report! Great stuff Grey, you continue to inspire.
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Ensign Expendable posted:http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2014/02/fourth-colour.html Well, crud, mine are painted much darker than that. I guess I'll fall back on the "different conditions" fudge. One thing I did spot on there, though, was a picture of a sherman drying; if those weren't repainted in green, did they get repainted in their original colours? If so, why? That seems weirdly circuitous.
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Lend Lease tanks were not repainted in the USSR. The Sherman is drying stateside.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Lend Lease tanks were not repainted in the USSR. The Sherman is drying stateside. Aaaah, that'd do it.
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So I may have bought an entire box of US Marines for conversion purposes. Quick question, I've done some research and it seems like helmet covers weren't used in Europe outside of the 2nd Armored Division (and then not for long) but apparently there were field covers developed by soldiers (which works out fine since I'm planning to use them to represent veterans). Does anyone have suggestions for how to represent those sort of covers - what sort of colour scheme should I go for?
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I don't suppose anyone has a reasonable pictorial reference for Loyalist provincial regiments of the American War of Independence? I'd like to paint an army that isn't totally red.
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Endman posted:I don't suppose anyone has a reasonable pictorial reference for Loyalist provincial regiments of the American War of Independence? Basically  Although I think a unit dressed in civilian butternut, brown, faded colors would look fine as well.
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I got me some new terrain from the nice internet man at wargamersterrain.com  Think fast, HATO dogs! 
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Basically Nice! Thank you. And I can always throw in some German Mercenaries for an extra splash of colour.
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Of course, there were also Patriot units that wore green coats....
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Historicals: where uniform color is both super important and impossible to ever actually get right
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Historicals: where uniform color is both super important and impossible to ever actually get right I go all postmodern and think of it as my own personal interpretation and presentation of a historical subject.
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With the release of Bolt Action 2e, a friend and I are planning to test it out. I've played one demo game about a year ago (1e) and he's never played before. As the guy who suggested it, I put together two lists to try this out with. Any suggestions? Germans vs USA 1000 points. I want to include a wide range of options and roles without getting too complex. Germans: A small, elite and specialized force. Each unit has a specific role it fills, and hopefully does very well. The vets are panzergrens because that's the list I played in Flames of War. Vet 2nd Lt 65 10 Vet Inf 130 Assault Rifles 50 10 Vet Inf 130 4 PzFaust 20 Regular MMG 50 Regular PzIV 235 Hanomag 84 Hanomag 84 10 Reg Inf 100 2 LMG 40 Total: 988 USA: A larger, regular force. Intended to include a bunch of support for a core of versatile units and vehicles. Vet 1st Lt 90 2 Extras 26 Reg. Air Force 75 12 Reg Inf 120 BAR 5 12 Reg Inf 120 BAR 5 12 Reg Inf 120 AT Grenades 24 BAR 5 Reg. Bazooka 60 Reg. Stuart 135 +HMG 25 Reg. Howizter 50 Reg. Greyhound 110 +HMG 25 Total: 995
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Kaza42 posted:With the release of Bolt Action 2e, a friend and I are planning to test it out. I've played one demo game about a year ago (1e) and he's never played before. As the guy who suggested it, I put together two lists to try this out with. Any suggestions? Germans vs USA 1000 points. I want to include a wide range of options and roles without getting too complex. I would suggest more evenly distributing your weapons between squads. They made some changes to make this less of a problem but having a unit basically get pinned into uselessness is a thing that can happen. If something happens to your tank your faust team is your only other AT. If I was the US player I'd be hitting them from turn 1 to prevent them from moving around. I'd probably put two fausts in all three squads. Also consider switching out some Assault Rifles for SMG's if you're planning on getting into close combat, SMG's get bonuses in close combat, assault rifles don't. Any extra points should be spent on LMG's since German machine guns are awesome. quote:USA: A larger, regular force. Intended to include a bunch of support for a core of versatile units and vehicles. A PzIV vs a Stuart isn't a very fair tank match-up. Your heavy AT gun will pierce him on a 2+ while he'll need a 5+ to do any damage to you. Once that is gone he only has his Bazooka and a squad with AT nades, unless he gets very lucky with an airstrike. I'd consider switching out the Stuart for a Sherman or swapping the Howitzer for an AT gun. He already gets two airstrikes, an additional howitzer probably isn't necessary especially as you're playing a fairly mobile force. Edit: also the howitzer can only fire over open-sights unless he springs for a spotter. Class Warcraft fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Thanks for the feedback.Class Warcraft posted:I would suggest more evenly distributing your weapons between squads. They made some changes to make this less of a problem but having a unit basically get pinned into uselessness is a thing that can happen. If something happens to your tank your faust team is your only other AT. If I was the US player I'd be hitting them from turn 1 to prevent them from moving around. I'd probably put two fausts in all three squads. Also consider switching out some Assault Rifles for SMG's if you're planning on getting into close combat, SMG's get bonuses in close combat, assault rifles don't. Any extra points should be spent on LMG's since German machine guns are awesome. Class Warcraft posted:A PzIV vs a Stuart isn't a very fair tank match-up. Your heavy AT gun will pierce him on a 2+ while he'll need a 5+ to do any damage to you. Once that is gone he only has his Bazooka and a squad with AT nades, unless he gets very lucky with an airstrike. I'd consider switching out the Stuart for a Sherman or swapping the Howitzer for an AT gun. He already gets two airstrikes, an additional howitzer probably isn't necessary especially as you're playing a fairly mobile force.
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Kaza42 posted:Thanks for the feedback. quote:I had hoped that multiple light AT weapons would be a good swap. The Greyhound and Stuart are both Light AT, and he's got a bazooka and AT nades. Would that not be a decent matchup against a medium tank and some armored cars? You make a good point about the airstrikes, would it be worth dropping the two extras on the LT to upgrade the howitzer to a medium AT gun? I think without anything that can really threaten your Panzer IV at long range you're basically putting the US player in a position where he can't hurt part of your army which can be discouraging for a new player. If you can fit an AT gun in there that should make things more fair. Let's him ward off your tank from at least part of the battlefield + give his light tanks a chance to do something before getting obliterated. Class Warcraft fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Regarding paint: Keep in mind that the people making the paints are also trying to interpret the colors. So it's guesswork all the way down.lilljonas posted:I go all postmodern and think of it as my own personal interpretation and presentation of a historical subject. I had a weird thought about doing a whole set where the scenery was solid black and the units were solid white...
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How feasible is an African CoC campaign? I get the feeling impression that CoC really shines at close ranges with lots of terrain, but desert war doesn't lend itself to that. The other players want to do some dessert stuff after we finish with the Caen campaigns, but the pint-sized campaigns have kinda gotten me hooked on historical maps as basis for our tables. Are there any good locations, campaigns or maps that fit the CoC rules?
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Fish and Chimps posted:How feasible is an African CoC campaign? I get the feeling impression that CoC really shines at close ranges with lots of terrain, but desert war doesn't lend itself to that. The other players want to do some dessert stuff after we finish with the Caen campaigns, but the pint-sized campaigns have kinda gotten me hooked on historical maps as basis for our tables. Are there any good locations, campaigns or maps that fit the CoC rules? North africa has tons of good terrain features for breaking up LOS, it's not all flat desert. Do some googling on Tunisia, and you'll find cactus fields, stony streams, hills, rock formations and, well, woods and crops and villages as well. I've always thought that the siege of Tobruk and/or any of the operations around it would make for a good backdrop for a campaign, and one where there are quite a few photos to use for research. Also, everybody where there, germans, italians, brits, scots, poles, australians, the list goes on for cool small side projects. Maybe you want to paint up a sikh squad that has been merged with a battered scottish platoon? It would make sense in Tobruk! Germans driving looted Matildas, fighting Australians defending with captured Italian anti-tan guns? Why not!
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I'm going to be racist and suggest doing urban combat in WWII. Why racist? Because with some magnetization for billboards and some loose corrugated carton? painted as sheets of... roofing you can transform those buildings into a suitable backdrop for a Force on Force/Skirmish Sangin/Spectre/OSC game!
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lilljonas posted:North africa has tons of good terrain features for breaking up LOS, it's not all flat desert. Do some googling on Tunisia, and you'll find cactus fields, stony streams, hills, rock formations and, well, woods and crops and villages as well. I've always thought that the siege of Tobruk and/or any of the operations around it would make for a good backdrop for a campaign, and one where there are quite a few photos to use for research. Also, everybody where there, germans, italians, brits, scots, poles, australians, the list goes on for cool small side projects. Maybe you want to paint up a sikh squad that has been merged with a battered scottish platoon? It would make sense in Tobruk! Germans driving looted Matildas, fighting Australians defending with captured Italian anti-tan guns? Why not! Sounds cool. And of course Tobruk is the most obvious choice.
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Fish and Chimps posted:How feasible is an African CoC campaign? I get the feeling impression that CoC really shines at close ranges with lots of terrain, but desert war doesn't lend itself to that. The other players want to do some dessert stuff after we finish with the Caen campaigns, but the pint-sized campaigns have kinda gotten me hooked on historical maps as basis for our tables. Are there any good locations, campaigns or maps that fit the CoC rules? There where lots of clashes in the desert, as I understand it a lot of that was tanks, but they would have support of course. Both sides made some daring attacks by taking shortcuts through the desert. But Tunisia and Libya also has town like the now infamous Benghazi
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https://www.amazon.com/Longest-Siege-Tobruk-Battle-Africa/dp/0330510819 I picked up this book last year, and it was a good entry primer to the campaign. It doesn't cover everything, but it gives a lot of flavour and was a good read IMHO.
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Ensign Expendable posted:There are hardware store style paint chips in Russian military archives, and yet Vallejo 4BO bears no resemblance to the real deal. lilljonas posted:I go all postmodern and think of it as my own personal interpretation and presentation of a historical subject. I have been seriously considering doing my Russians in monochrome to look like a WWII film.
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lilljonas posted:https://www.amazon.com/Longest-Siege-Tobruk-Battle-Africa/dp/0330510819 Cool! Your group didn't do a Tobruk campaign for CoC did you?
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Fish and Chimps posted:Cool! Your group didn't do a Tobruk campaign for CoC did you? Not yet, the Stalino campaign took much longer than we expected, spanning a whole year and some 20+ games. On top of that our other projects took away time from painting the brits, so I'm just now starting to get out some painted tanks, none of them finished yet, and we're planning on a few group painting sessions to get some Brittish infantry painted. We're probably doing a Sicily or Italy campaign first, but we also have some new members who are very keen on North Africa, so we'll see which ones get going first. But we're definitely looking at ways to make the campaigns shorter!
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