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The_Rob posted:Hbk put Vince into a trash can and elbow dropped him off of a ladder through a table. The entire living Hart family assaulted Vince for 15 minutes while the fans and announcers cheering at the start progressively got more uncomfortable
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Chris James 2 posted:The entire living Hart family assaulted Vince for 15 minutes while the fans and announcers cheering at the start progressively got more uncomfortable But that's the thing if anyone deserved it it was Vince. Stephanie deserves something to happen to her too character wise, but it won't so she will continue to run around and belittle everyone.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:16
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I don't think Steph is playing a character. She is just being herself and that's what makes it more infuriating. She belittles people because she has massive insecurities.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:21
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sam bradford lmao posted:I don't think Steph is playing a character. She is just being herself and that's what makes it more infuriating. She belittles people because she has massive insecurities.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:23
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I wish instead of booing or poo poo like "CM PUNK", the crowd would just drown out Stephanie with "BORING" chants. I'm sure Stephanie is under the delusion that she's a good heel (or face for THE DIVAS REVOLUTION). She needs to be informed that she's killing the show.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:29
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I feel like during those years away from TV Stephanie spent her free time wacthing Game of Thrones and thinking, "This Cersei lady has too many redeeming qualities. ".
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Sep 27, 2016 19:28
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CobiWann posted:Someone who is legit good at what he does, says things like "I eat pieces of poo poo for breakfast" and "And Grizzly Adams had a beard," has a best friend who probably like Sizzler and Red Lobster, and provides a perfect heel foil for the good guys. your analogy falls apart because Sami Zayn can't be Happy Gilmore, Happy Gilmore was talented
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Weird thought maybe- but I was thinking about how heels get over and modern fan reactions. The WWE main roster has had this problem for a while- their heels are either so over that fans don't really boo them, or they're just dead ends. Sometimes this gets laid on the booking, other times on the fans being too smart or not playing their part in the program. I was thinking though- NXT has been pretty successful in keeping their heels as heels it seems, right? The fans there know Samoa Joe and they know he's a great wrestler- but they play him as a bad guy and the fans boo him. They let Kevin Owens get some funny quips in, but they also played him right against Sami Zayn and the fans reacted appropriately. Has there been a recent situation where NXT hasn't been able to get a heel over as a heel? What's their secret?
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Sep 27, 2016 19:36
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NXT isn't perfect with heels. People will still cheer Aries and Roode, for example. But Joe and Owens got over as heels because they were vicious toward beloved faces.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:40
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:What's their secret? not having to write three hours of show and steph segments
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Sep 27, 2016 19:41
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rusev is awesome he's believably strong, he sells extremely well, and he plays a good heel but the roman matches are all poo poo because we all knew THE BIG DAWG was going to win so what was the point, you're just making rusev look like poo poo
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Sep 27, 2016 19:42
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if roman and steph disappeared from this plane of existence raw would probably be able to compete with smackdown for the title of 2nd best show
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Codependent Poster posted:NXT isn't perfect with heels. People will still cheer Aries and Roode, for example. No wonder it doesn't work on raw, there are no beloved faces
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Raw is really weird right now when you think about the top faces. Roman - competing for US title Seth - I guess is a face now? Main evented the last PPV in face role at least ?????? - Then it's a hard dropoff into Cesaro/Midcard territory. Am I missing someone obvious? SmackDown Live! has 3 obvious top faces in Cena, Ambrose, and Orton. Raw technically has Brock but it's silly to factor him into roster depth.
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Im watching Holy Foly and holy crap is bad but when Mick sees the Hell in a Cell my heart broke. Im too harsh on the guy, i wish he is happy. Also im in love with Becky Lynch.
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I am an Oney LArkin fan. I don't even know if that's how his name is spelled.
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I hope Cesaro/sheamus is a new day stopgap and don't do the begrudgingly learn to respect one another thing because he already did that with Tyson Kidd in a much quicker and subtle fashion. Plus Cesaro/Kidd is my OTP and I don't want to see him win tag titles with anyone else
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Minidust posted:Raw is really weird right now when you think about the top faces. WWE can't book babyfaces and it's hilarious.
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People say it's hard to buy Roman as a good guy, but Rollins is a spoiled dweeb who is mad that his gravy train ran out. All he's missing is an Elvis jump suit and a Duck's rear end.
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RacistGuidingLight posted:People say it's hard to buy Roman as a good guy, but Rollins is a spoiled dweeb who is mad that his gravy train ran out. All he's missing is an Elvis jump suit and a Duck's rear end. good thing they brought him back as a heel just in time for roman to get suspended and gently caress everything up
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Sep 27, 2016 20:20
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Minidust posted:Raw is really weird right now when you think about the top faces. Smackdown has the opposite problem to Raw though, you have 3 strong faces and then on the heel side the dropoff after AJ is hilarious. The Miz? Bound to the midcard until he drops the strap, and he should in no way drop it anytime soon. Bray Wyatt? Dolph Ziggler (eventually)? Baron Corbin? No one cares. I almost wish you could somehow take the rosters of both shows and like somehow combine them into one unified roster. You could then have wrestlers from both shows fight one another, which might create some fresh and interesting matchups. Also you wouldn't have two incredibly anemic tag and womens' divisions. I don't know if it'd ever be possible, just something to think about
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JT Smiley posted:Exactly, Austin vs McMahon worked because it was the common man overcoming his evil boss. But modern day Stephanie is just a unstoppable evil force that shits all over everyone regardless of any real consistent logic. The only person to ever stand up to her was Brie Bella and she loving lost the feud. Dusty stood up to her, and ended up getting into trouble for doing it.
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I think Rusev could legit turn baby face with Lana and be the top guy in the company, but I'm a mark for everything he does
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Sep 27, 2016 20:28
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Raskolnikov38 posted:good thing they brought him back as a heel just in time for roman to get suspended and gently caress everything up I'm not one of those guys who said it woulda made sense or been good for him to return as a face, but if he was gonna be anyway he probably should have. Right now he's kinda a dick but his match with Triple H will probably be hot and I'll enjoy it.
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Davros1 posted:Dusty stood up to her, and Cody ended up getting into trouble for doing it.
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RacistGuidingLight posted:I'm not one of those guys who said it woulda made sense or been good for him to return as a face, but if he was gonna be anyway he probably should have. Right now he's kinda a dick but his match with Triple H will probably be hot and I'll enjoy it. the weirdest thing was that 'documentary' they released right before he came back, i think making him still be heel was a vince decision five minutes before the show started
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Soothing Vapors posted:Smackdown has the opposite problem to Raw though, you have 3 strong faces and then on the heel side the dropoff after AJ is hilarious. If only they had a source of ready, talented wrestlers to pull from, to help fill their ranks.
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ParanoidInc posted:I think Rusev could legit turn baby face with Lana and be the top guy in the company, but I'm a mark for everything he does Rusev and Lana have so much chemistry that they could probably make anything (not involving Ziggler) work.
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RacistGuidingLight posted:I'm all out of faith This is how I feel
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8P: 2.85 Million 9P: 2.381 Million 10P: 2.203 Million 2.2 million or so is the base The debate got at least 83.7 million
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Vertical Lime posted:8P: 2.85 Million Those numbers are over 9000!
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Vertical Lime posted:8P: 2.85 Million Going against a debate and a football game where like eighty points were scored that's not awful
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I hope the daniel bryan tweets begging to put Cesaro on SD lead to something but now he'll probably be loving locked in to a tag title. If they really need heels then just put Rusev on SD since they need heels and he's already proven he can work with guys like Cena, plus I wanna see him beat the poo poo out of Ambrose. It'll never happen but I'd still like to see Zayn v. Styles before the year is up. Isn't Survivor Series technically a brand versus brand thing still, or no?
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Sep 27, 2016 21:10
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Davros1 posted:Dusty stood up to her, and ended up dying
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Dusty was good.
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Vertical Lime posted:8P: 2.85 Million Looking forward to SmackDown beating RAW in the ratings this week
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Looking forward to SmackDown beating RAW in the ratings this week speaking of it, is there a reason why RAW gets or has hourly breakdowns but smackdown is always just one number?
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Vertical Lime posted:8P: 2.85 Million Nosedived after the first hour. The Big Draw, Roman Reigns
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Raskolnikov38 posted:speaking of it, is there a reason why RAW gets or has hourly breakdowns but smackdown is always just one number? They may technically be three separate 1 hour shows, which is why you see the copyright at the top of every hour. But Smackdown is just one 2 hour show for some reason.
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