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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


A lot of glaring errors, too.. Sandy Bridge was in all the Early/Late 2011 MBPs, Early / Late 2013s had Ivy Bridge and Haswell. Late 2013's had 802.11ac, too.

Far as I can tell, it's a modded up HP EliteBook 820 with an SSD premastered with the usual patches.. be interesting if they get Sierra to run on it, that would flip Apple's lid.

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PS. Love the cabin
Dec 30, 2011
Bee Lincoln
At least they didn't copy my design.

utonium
Dec 17, 2002


Highlighted the most honest portion of the FAQ.

Armagnac
Jun 24, 2005
Le feu de la vie.
Trip Report...

Rebuilt my Hackintosh with GA-Z97x-UD7 th, (Haven't bothered to try to get the thunderbolt working). Used the Tonymacx86 new clover unibeast/multibeast. Wasn't super intuitive, but I do feel like I have a slightly better build now, boots up much quicker... Still took a bit to troubleshoot.

On a positive note, their new iMessage guide worked perfectly right away.

Now hopefully everything works out. I'll be reinstalling everything. So far so good.

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

What's the easiest way to update clover on an existing hackintosh install? I need to get ready for the upcoming release of Sierra next week! Thanks! : - )

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Go here

https://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/

Download, install, done.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.


This is how I do it.

centracore
Apr 17, 2005
wtf
Has anyone upgraded to 10.12 yet? I have a pretty flawless install of 10.11 thanks to the guide at the start of this thread, but because my SMBIOS is set to MacPro3,1 I'm unable to upgrade to 10.12 through the App Store.

centracore fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Sep 15, 2016

Xir
Jul 31, 2007

I smell fan fiction...
Is it possible to just upgrade to Sierra without doing a compete reinstall?

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Just got a new (to me) computer secondhand on Gumtree. One of the selling points was the Gigabyte motherboard, planning on doing a hackintosh install in the near future.

I need to get Bluetooth and wifi working on it, having a quick Google, would I be best off buying a Broadcom BCM94331CD-BCM4331 + this specialised PCI-E adapter for it? Am trying to keep things budget, and it seems like it'd be a rock-solid option. Also, would these work in Windows? About to head out to K-Mart to buy a 10m Ethernet cable because I was used to everything coming with built in wifi, this is my first desktop in like... 10 years.

I might also look into replacing the video card in the future (1GB Radeon HD5450), what are some good bang-for-the-buck low to medium range cards with good OS X compatibility?

Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Sep 17, 2016

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Pompous Rhombus posted:


I might also look into replacing the video card in the future (1GB Radeon HD5450), what are some good bang-for-the-buck low to medium range cards with good OS X compatibility?

You say Gumtree, are you AU? You can get a second hand 670 or 680 for peanuts on OCAU buy/sell.

enMTW
Feb 19, 2015

Armagnac posted:

Hey enMTW, at this point, you mentioned that the TonyMac guide is OK since they're using clover now. Is that ok? or are you planning on an update soon? I decided to just make a El Cap build for now...

EDIT: Also is Multibeast ok now? Or should I still use the Clover Configurator?

Yes, follow the TonyMac guide for now. I am rewriting this guide for Sierra.

Follow the TonyMac in full, including Multibeast, for now.

PS. Love the cabin
Dec 30, 2011
Bee Lincoln
Does anyone get high cpu usage watching youtube using Chrome and Firefox?
Safari doesn't seem to have that problem and I tried the h264ify addon but it doesn't really change anything.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

PS. Love the cabin posted:

Does anyone get high cpu usage watching youtube using Chrome and Firefox?
Safari doesn't seem to have that problem and I tried the h264ify addon but it doesn't really change anything.

Is the high CPU usage causing problems? I'm just asking because as far as I can tell, watching VP9 video is going to make your CPU fan spin up because full VP9 hardware decode isn't there on anything earlier than 7000 series Intel Core CPUs. I know that watching youtube is going to use some CPU power, and for now that's about the way it is. I'd rather use CPU than the higher bandwidth required for h264 at the same detail.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Xir posted:

Is it possible to just upgrade to Sierra without doing a compete reinstall?

For the moment you shouldn't run Sierra right away regardless of how you install it. At least several recent builds of Clover have serious issues, with some people saying anything newer than 3469 is bad.

Most years the Clover people have this stuff figured out during beta and have it running at daily driver level by release, but this version has been especially messy. Doesn't help that MacPro3,1 or whatever it's called that most people were using was dropped. Apparently people who had iMessage working under that profile had to lose it to upgrade.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Also bear in mind that Apple is now using Metal as the main graphics API in macOS Sierra, deprecating OpenGL.

Metal requires newer GPUs to get the job done.

If you don't have the following GPUs, Sierra may run perceptibly SLOWER than El Capitan did as it will hand off screen drawing to CPU based routines.

nVidia GTX 6xx (preferably 650 and higher)
AMD Radeon HD 7xxx (preferably 7950 and higher)
Intel HD 4000 and higher

PS. Love the cabin
Dec 30, 2011
Bee Lincoln

Twerk from Home posted:

Is the high CPU usage causing problems? I'm just asking because as far as I can tell, watching VP9 video is going to make your CPU fan spin up because full VP9 hardware decode isn't there on anything earlier than 7000 series Intel Core CPUs. I know that watching youtube is going to use some CPU power, and for now that's about the way it is. I'd rather use CPU than the higher bandwidth required for h264 at the same detail.

I guess it's more of a battery life thing than cpu usage but the laptop does get a bit hot under load.
~50c idle and maxes out around ~80c After I disabled turbo boost in the bios because it was regularly hitting 95c at its most loaded.

Sasquatch!
Nov 18, 2000


Binary Badger posted:

Also bear in mind that Apple is now using Metal as the main graphics API in macOS Sierra, deprecating OpenGL.

Metal requires newer GPUs to get the job done.

If you don't have the following GPUs, Sierra may run perceptibly SLOWER than El Capitan did as it will hand off screen drawing to CPU based routines.

nVidia GTX 6xx (preferably 650 and higher)
AMD Radeon HD 7xxx (preferably 7950 and higher)
Intel HD 4000 and higher
Unrelated to Hackintoshing, but where can I read more on this? I have a 2011 Mac Mini with Intel HD 3000 that's still on Yosemite, but if this is true, it sounds like I'd be best off getting it to the latest El Capitan and no further.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Sasquatch! posted:

Unrelated to Hackintoshing, but where can I read more on this? I have a 2011 Mac Mini with Intel HD 3000 that's still on Yosemite, but if this is true, it sounds like I'd be best off getting it to the latest El Capitan and no further.

Welp, Yosemite is still using OpenGL, Sierra is mostly Metal, here are some links:

https://developer.apple.com/reference/metal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_(API)

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073 (List of Macs that support Metal, your Mini ain't one of them)


Another thing to remember for hackintoshes is that AMD's RX 460's / 470's already have nearly complete internal driver support in Sierra, which means you'll want to eye getting those cards eventually if you want Sierra/Metal support. Apple's got a pretty solid track record in only fully supporting new GPUs during the mid-life of a given OS X, never at initial release. Like certain nVidia cards only got support after 10.8.3.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Sep 24, 2016

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
I remember when Mavericks dropped TWAIN and my scanner quit working. Rolled it back to Mountain Lion, which I still use today.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I was able to upgrade to Sierra in-place by first mounting EFI with Clover Configurator and switching my system definitions from MacPro3,1 to iMac14,2. I have a weird motherboard so its been a long time since a hackintosh install went so smoothly like that.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

eames posted:

Almost makes me wonder why Apple won't just select a few OEMs like Lenovo and HP to build beefy, licensed OS X workstations for them.

Apple literally did this in the 90s and turns out they cannibalised their own market because people who would otherwise buy from Apple bought from the OEMs for cheaper instead.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

The Apple of the 90s was very different from the Apple of 2016 though, right now they are making money hand over fist through the app store and handheld devices and the Mac platform is becoming dangerously neglected. OEMing the "old" desktop platform would be a much lower risk if they did it now.

Although with eGPU really starting to mature I think I could survive without a traditional tower. Hook your laptop or mac mini up to a GTX 1080 and connect that to a bunch of large displays and you are most of the way there.

poxin
Nov 16, 2003

Why yes... I am full of stars!
I have a rather odd issue with my setup that keeps occuring. After enough time my mouse cursor will stop changing to different states. Aka hovering over a link, changing to the text selection, and it will not longer produce "hover" actions like bringing up the dock. I can still click on things or click where the dock is to sort of register where the mouse is to unhide it. A restart always fixes it but occurs at least once a day.

Anyone run into this issue before or know of a potential way to troubleshoot?

PS. Love the cabin
Dec 30, 2011
Bee Lincoln
I had something like that but it turned out I put my laptop back together wrong and a mouse button was stuck down.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

PS. Love the cabin posted:

I had something like that but it turned out I put my laptop back together wrong and a mouse button was stuck down.

Same but a Bluetooth mouse in my backpack with the button wedged down.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Looking over the big list of 'supported' parts and had a question - what is it about certain motherboards that make them better or worse for installing OSX? Is it drivers, features etc? What determines a good choice? What magic hath gigabyte wrought ?

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend

well why not posted:

Looking over the big list of 'supported' parts and had a question - what is it about certain motherboards that make them better or worse for installing OSX? Is it drivers, features etc? What determines a good choice? What magic hath gigabyte wrought ?

Mostly it is what chipsets the OEM uses for audio, ethernet, bluetooth, and wifi. Best of my knowledge, the preferred boards use what Apple does in real Macs to keep compatibility high. I think stuff that Gigabyte does with UEFI makes it easier too, but I've been out of the loop for a while on that stuff.

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

goddamnit i updated to sierra and smoothmouse doesn't work anymore :saddowns:

eames
May 9, 2009

Sphyre posted:

goddamnit i updated to sierra and smoothmouse doesn't work anymore :saddowns:

Yes but Apple fixed the 16ms input lag which was the main reason why I used it.
You can use Controllermate to change the acceleration curve.

Full story here: http://dae.me/blog/2144/on-macos-sierra-support-and-the-future-of-smoothmouse/

PS. Love the cabin
Dec 30, 2011
Bee Lincoln
I was bored so I installed Sierra on my desktop, it seems to be running well except it goes to sleep but never wakes up.
I've read it's a common thing with AMD graphics cards and I've tried the one fix of turning on the integrated graphics but with no luck.

Does sleep work under El Capitan, or should I just prevent it from sleeping entirely?

Specs:
i5 4670k
Gigabyte B85M-D3H
Radeon 7970

e:
Only way for sleep to work is to enable the integrated Intel GPU and set it as primary.
Sleep works now, it's just a kind of a pain in the rear end.

PS. Love the cabin fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Oct 12, 2016

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy
I'm going to be upgrading my desktop PC in the near future, and I'd rather it run macOS. I'm in no dire need, my old one is just starting to show its age.

I assume it's worth holding off to see how things shake out with Sierra and for Apple to actually release new hardware that'd improve compatibility with Skylake/other stuff?

Holy crap Apple update your poo poo gooddamn.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend

hey girl you up posted:

Holy crap Apple update your poo poo gooddamn.

This is exactly the problem. The discontent in the Mac community is reaching feverish pitch about the complete lack of updates to the Mac lineup. The Mac Pro is literally identical to the launch unit in 2013.

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy

mayodreams posted:

This is exactly the problem. The discontent in the Mac community is reaching feverish pitch about the complete lack of updates to the Mac lineup. The Mac Pro is literally identical to the launch unit in 2013.

hopefully we'll have some good news next week

IanTheM
May 22, 2007
He came from across the Atlantic. . .

r u ready to WALK posted:

The Apple of the 90s was very different from the Apple of 2016 though, right now they are making money hand over fist through the app store and handheld devices and the Mac platform is becoming dangerously neglected. OEMing the "old" desktop platform would be a much lower risk if they did it now.

Although with eGPU really starting to mature I think I could survive without a traditional tower. Hook your laptop or mac mini up to a GTX 1080 and connect that to a bunch of large displays and you are most of the way there.

eGPUs are a really inelegant solution, so I can see why Apple doesn't like the idea, but on the other hand GPUs are the only thing really changing with PCs these days. They do have zero motivation to help out Nvidia though, so they'd probably stick to their own proprietary AMD solution anyway.

Armagnac
Jun 24, 2005
Le feu de la vie.
HAAAAALP!!!!

So I boot my computer and suddenly now I get the apple logo and a big NO sign.

I boot into verbose and I get:

Error allocating 0x1e71a pages at 0x000000001cd960000 alloc type 2
Couldn't Allocate runtime area
Boot Failed, sleeping for 10sec before exiting.

Strangely, I could actually get it to boot if I did force wake from hibernate.

So I plugged in my trusty USB clover key, and I couldn't boot... Seemingly same error?

I've also been getting very wierd crashes. where it dumps to ascii text, and just now, I couldn't boot, I'd turn on to ascii text.

ANY IDEAS what is happening?

Edit: I was able to boot in safe mode... But still no dice in regular. Of course I'm in the middle of a project too...

Armagnac fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Oct 21, 2016

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




IanTheM posted:

eGPUs are a really inelegant solution, so I can see why Apple doesn't like the idea, but on the other hand GPUs are the only thing really changing with PCs these days. They do have zero motivation to help out Nvidia though, so they'd probably stick to their own proprietary AMD solution anyway.

Apple will never make an eGPU, unless it's built into a display, and even then it's very slim chances. They're not exactly in the business of adding things that require cables.

Armagnac
Jun 24, 2005
Le feu de la vie.
3rd parties will make the e-gpu's and they can connect through thunderbolt 3. They'll be for people who need more power.

Still though, if they made a little box with two doublewide pcie slots it I'd buy it tomorrow.

Armagnac
Jun 24, 2005
Le feu de la vie.
Also strangely I'm able to boot with caches disable... but now my internet is broken. Wiiiierrrddd. That might be able to get me through the day.

I'm also occasionally booting to a blinking cursor with no mobo. blerggggg. I don't want to have to buy a new mobo.

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eames
May 9, 2009

Armagnac posted:

3rd parties will make the e-gpu's and they can connect through thunderbolt 3. They'll be for people who need more power.

Still though, if they made a little box with two doublewide pcie slots it I'd buy it tomorrow.

You'd think so but many of these 3rd party cases have been ready for mass production for months or even years now.
Intel, who does the official TB3 licensing, won't give manufacturers permission to build them for e-GPU use.*

Nobody knows why but it probably has something to do with the fact that their mobile CPU performance has stagnated and they expected to go head-to-head with dGPU performance with their iGPU implementations. Perhaps the recent developments (namely Pascal) will make them change their mind.

*the Razer Core appears to be the only exception to this.

well why not posted:

They're not exactly in the business of adding things that require cables.

:laffo:

You need a cable to attach a regular 2.0 USB Stick to a Macbook.

//edit: i accidentally a letter. :downs:

eames fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 21, 2016

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