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Dilbert Fanclub President
Oct 21, 2015

by Reene
Renee could also get a job anywhere doing news or sports or whatever. She doesn't need WWE and they know it.

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Vaguido posted:

Splitting the tag division was a mistake. There's only three good teams on Raw, and at this point it's hard to argue Gallows and Anderson are a good team anymore because they keep losing. So all you have are New Day and Enzo and Cass. Smackdown has Alpha, Usos (who are good now), Slater and Rhyno, Breezango, Hype Bros, etc. And some of those names aren't nearly on the level of New Day or Enzo+Cass, but they're certainly above Shining Stars, Golden Truth and whatever other teams are on Raw.

SmackDown's tag division looked even weaker than Raw's initially. They got the Usos over as heels, reminded us that, oh yeah, Tyler Breeze is a good wrestler and did the story of the year with Slyno.

Raw could easily do something with, say, Golden Truth because guess what, Goldust is pretty goshdarn good at wrestling! But they don't do anything with their talent besides the top two or three players in every division, so all the divisions languish and nobody gets over and the whole thing is a loving slog.

Like, every time you think the brand split is to fault for one of Raw's problems, I want you to think about how much more they have at their disposal than Smackdown.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

They use the old Wrestlemania logo, thats nice.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!



Those are the logos from Todd Okerlund's ClassicWrestling.com and it appears to be the SuperClash compilations they made when they owned that footage - I'm guessing once WWE buys a library they find whoever's still selling it and demand the masters

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

is it more impressive than Dave's

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



it's better organized at least considering meltzer built his garage from wrestling tapes

Vaguido
Feb 22, 2011

When the drug test comes back positive for performance enhancing drugs.

VJeff posted:

SmackDown's tag division looked even weaker than Raw's initially. They got the Usos over as heels, reminded us that, oh yeah, Tyler Breeze is a good wrestler and did the story of the year with Slyno.

Raw could easily do something with, say, Golden Truth because guess what, Goldust is pretty goshdarn good at wrestling! But they don't do anything with their talent besides the top two or three players in every division, so all the divisions languish and nobody gets over and the whole thing is a loving slog.

Like, every time you think the brand split is to fault for one of Raw's problems, I want you to think about how much more they have at their disposal than Smackdown.

Goldust is really good. R Truth is death.

I don't mind the brand split at all. It made it so I can watch a 2 hour wrestling show instead of a 3 hour one. But I still think that the brand split would have been better if the Tag and Women's divisions weren't split and they put one division on each show. Alternatively, keep the women's division split and put Cruiserweights on Smackdown and Tags on Raw.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
R truth is actually good.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Vaguido posted:

Goldust is really good. R Truth is death.

I don't mind the brand split at all. It made it so I can watch a 2 hour wrestling show instead of a 3 hour one. But I still think that the brand split would have been better if the Tag and Women's divisions weren't split and they put one division on each show. Alternatively, keep the women's division split and put Cruiserweights on Smackdown and Tags on Raw.

Nah, tag team wrestling is the best and knowing that The Revival would be guaranteed to end up on loving Raw would be the dirt worst.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Vaguido posted:

Goldust is really good. R Truth is death.

I don't mind the brand split at all. It made it so I can watch a 2 hour wrestling show instead of a 3 hour one. But I still think that the brand split would have been better if the Tag and Women's divisions weren't split and they put one division on each show. Alternatively, keep the women's division split and put Cruiserweights on Smackdown and Tags on Raw.

If this happened whichever one of those divsions ended up on raw would be booked like poo poo. It's nice to have a well booked women's and tag division on the wwe show I watch

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.
it's been like six months and Karl Anderson hasn't won a televised singles match

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Vaguido posted:

Goldust is really good. R Truth is death.

I don't mind the brand split at all. It made it so I can watch a 2 hour wrestling show instead of a 3 hour one. But I still think that the brand split would have been better if the Tag and Women's divisions weren't split and they put one division on each show. Alternatively, keep the women's division split and put Cruiserweights on Smackdown and Tags on Raw.

You'd just have the same situation. The SmackDown one would be really good and the Raw one would be dirt garbage, except even more teams would be getting wasted on Raw. We never would've gotten Slyno, Usos would be the same boring poo poo, American Alpha would run into the 50/50 booking buzzsaw just like Bayley has, so on and so forth.

There's every single tool in place for two vibrant tag divisions and two vibrant women's divisions, it's a matter of one team using their tools well and another team not using them at all.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Bard Maddox posted:

it's been like six months and Karl Anderson hasn't won a televised singles match

oh no the tag team wrestler who's had literally two televised singles match lost both of them the sky is falling

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE/status/781565792743587840

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!
To think the Bret Hart Tom Magee match is in there, tantalisingly out of reach of us mere mortals

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

Baron Corbyn posted:

oh no the tag team wrestler who's had literally two televised singles match lost both of them the sky is falling

He's also lost a shitload of tag team matches, if that helps

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Baron Corbyn posted:

oh no the tag team wrestler who's had literally two televised singles match lost both of them the sky is falling

I thought you were making that up, but yup, two televised single match loses against Big E and John Cena,

While we are at it...

Doc Gallows has only 1 singles win over Kofi
Festus has 5 singles wins, and 1 "Sing Off" win against Jillian Hall.
Fake Kane has only 1 singles win over Kane

Doc Gallows is not even better than Fake Kane

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Marquis de Pyro posted:

He's also lost a shitload of tag team matches, if that helps

I know and the booking of the tag division is complete shite but complaining that Karl Anderson lost to Big E and John loving Cena is ridiculous when compared to basically anything else that happens on that shitshow.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

Next season of Mr. Robot is Elliot returning to Steel Mountain to steal the WWE library

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

PunkBoy posted:

Next season of Mr. Robot is Elliot returning to Steel Mountain to steal the WWE library

Once all trace of Chris Benoit has been destroyed, we're free! He's off the network! But they have the physical backups....it has to be done.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

Oh God please don't post hardcore porn links in this thread :stare::fh:

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Astro7x posted:

I thought you were making that up, but yup, two televised single match loses against Big E and John Cena,

While we are at it...

Doc Gallows has only 1 singles win over Kofi
Festus has 5 singles wins, and 1 "Sing Off" win against Jillian Hall.
Fake Kane has only 1 singles win over Kane

Doc Gallows is not even better than Fake Kane

Who is Doc Gallows

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Gamestop has 4 official Pop vinyl figures to promote 2K17

One is Hogan
http://form.e.gamestop.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=611f54530d5aa09be48e009da53d14b4cc2096de5332b47060a94a0b9d6168ed

Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Sep 29, 2016

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

Oh God please don't post hardcore porn links in this thread :stare::fh:

If you think that's hardcore, check out this hot amateur POV scene:
https://youtu.be/8exKGcS_1xg?t=185

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/781595802452058112

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

OctoberCountry posted:

If you think that's hardcore, check out this hot amateur POV scene:
https://youtu.be/8exKGcS_1xg?t=185

When will people learn that you do something like that once for fun and the thrill of seeing it yourself, and next thing you know it's on the internet for people to leer over forever :ohdear:

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/inside-video-vault-photos

WWE's video vault is amazing. Look at all those goddamn tapes!

no Tom Magee tape no buys

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

literally everything involving Bray Wyatt is a poor man's Jake

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sticky Nate posted:

no Tom Magee tape no buys

What is this Tom Magee thing?

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Tom Magee was an 80's era Body By Zeus-rear end dude that Vince had tapped to be a big deal and it turned out he couldn't work at all. But before he was drummed out he had a match with Brett Hart that was was reportedly good? People have been after footage of it for decades

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Basic Chunnel posted:

Tom Magee was an 80's era Body By Zeus-rear end dude that Vince had tapped to be a big deal and it turned out he couldn't work at all. But before he was drummed out he had a match with Brett Hart that was was reportedly good? People have been after footage of it for decades

A lost tape? something like Christine Chubbucks tape?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008


That's just an ad for pops because they're related to WWE. It has nothing to do with 2k17

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DoctorGonzo posted:

What is this Tom Magee thing?

Tom Magee had a fantastic physique and he had a match with Bret Hart that was so good that Vince McMahon was utterly, 100% convinced that he had his new Hulk Hogan who could headline the company and make them hundreds of millions of dollars. Then Magee had matches with people who were NOT Bret Hart and everybody realized that Bret had completely carried the match and made Magee look like a million bucks.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Here's Tom Magee getting carried by Arn Anderson if you want an idea of how good he could look with the right opponent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZYJtgT_h5U

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

i bet the match with bret was still really bad

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?


sportsgenius86 posted:

That's just an ad for pops because they're related to WWE. It has nothing to do with 2k17

To all the fellow Hulkamaniacs! Whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania destroys you? WWE and professional wrestling icon Hulk Hogan is bringing his mini 24-inch pythons your way brother, and into your Pop! Vinyl Collection!

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/781618452951957508

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Basic Chunnel posted:

Tom Magee was an 80's era Body By Zeus-rear end dude that Vince had tapped to be a big deal and it turned out he couldn't work at all. But before he was drummed out he had a match with Brett Hart that was was reportedly good? People have been after footage of it for decades

Did Bret not insist that the match never see the light of day because it was effectively a squash match, and Bret being a massive mark for Bret wasn't willing to let that ruin his image?

Though if this is true, the fact we didn't see the match in late 1997 means we'll probably never see it.

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Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007


I think Talking Smack does 2 good things just by existing:

-It takes the some of the long promos off the main show, so the audience is getting more matches
-It takes a lot of risk and uncertainty of doing a 20 minute live promo (audience reactions, backstage chaos, planning for commercials) in front of a live audience away, putting it in a more controlled environment

Granted they still do too many overly long 20 minute promos, but if that can't be helped...

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