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DLC Case That was ok. Might be the weakest case in the entire game, but I wouldn't call it bad. I called not only the true culprit, but his real identity waaaaayyyy early. I'm SUPER disappointed time travel wasn't actually involved. When I heard there was a time travel case and that Larry and Edgeworth were involved, I fully expected that you'd have to time travel to AA1 and do some wacky poo poo. I even maintained that hope after it was revealed that the two receptions were a ruse, because I was expecting that to be a Masque De Masque style double fakeout. It's really hard for me to look past this missed opportunity and appreciate the case for what it is right now, but it's safe to say it doesn't stack up to the AA5 DLC case. And yeah, I get that having Maya be your assistant and Edgeworth be the prosecutor and Larry be involved is a form of time travel in and of itself, but it's still not what I wanted. Speaking of Edgeworth, I thought he was acting kinda dickish for post-enlightenment Edgeworth, especially his multiple calls to end the trial immediately. If you care about the truth so much why are you in such a big rush, you dickhead?
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Lurdiak posted:DLC Case Yeah, I thought the same. The writing in the whole case seemed a bit 'off' to me in a way I can't quite put my finger on. It's kinda weird coming from the same team who did Investigations 2 and Edgeworth's part in Dual Destinies Also, what is Blackquill up to these days, aside from being a weeb and tough loving on Athena? Edgeworth makes numerous references to the prosecutor's office being full of crooks and bitches and that's why he has to ship in Nahyuta or take on cases himself, but he went to great lengths to get Simon off the hook and it seems weird that he doesn't even get mentioned in passing. Also I guess we're still pretending Gavin is a competent prosecutor and he's around.
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Kajeesus posted:Yeah, I thought the same. The writing in the whole case seemed a bit 'off' to me in a way I can't quite put my finger on. It's kinda weird coming from the same team who did Investigations 2 and Edgeworth's part in Dual Destinies Simon's just on a break after getting out of prison. He deserves some time off.
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Sep 30, 2016 11:32
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DLC, not much of a spoiler Edgeworth, you complete fucker.
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Maybe Edgeworth acting like it was AA1 is a form of time travel itself
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I think it's 100% intended to be like time travel back to an original trilogy game, yeah.
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DLC Talk! I liked the case a bunch but I wouldn't say it was as good as DD's DLC case. But that thing set a REALLY high bar. Personally, I saw it as Edgeworth being Edgeworth. He's always just prosecuted his way unless there was something behind the scenes going on making things more dangerous. Don't forget what he's said about finding the truth - It's only when the prosecutor and defense attorney butt heads that the truth makes itself known. And Phoenix is at his best when he's being majorly pressed. Remember: It was only just last game that the dude accused Athena of killing her mother. Edgeworth might be enlightened. But in court he's still a dick for finding the truth.  So I don't think it's a weird change or actually anykind of change at all.
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What annoyed me the most about the DLC was How they kept teasing us with having Athena getting to do something for once in this case and Phoenix just goes "Ahaha, nope, silly Athena, you're just a pointless side character!" and then it's repeated about four times over the course of the case.
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https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/781871978567364608 God dammit Crunchy.
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Full game non-DLC spoilers: Maya really didn't feel like Maya throughout this game, and I think it was the writing. Granted, she was accused of murder in case 3 and was just kind of being used in case 5, but nothing really felt right with her. Early DLC spoilers, through first day investigation: NOW Maya feels like Maya! Investigating with her feels juuuust right. If there's an AA7 I hope that Athena is the lead attorney for most of it and I hope that Maya helps her with investigations. I really want to see more of the two of them interacting.
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DLC Phoenix seems to be as fed up with Larry as I am. I didn't hate him before but come the gently caress on man, you're 34 years old and you're trying to push yourself on a 21 year old married woman. Phoenix grew up a lot in the last seven years, but Larry seems like he's regressed.
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Echoing the sentiment that the DLC case was just OK. The loving butler actually did it, goddamnit.  That Sephiroth hair wasn't doing his suspicion any favours. I'm super disappointed we didn't get any Mood Matrix segments. And wow that Thought Route was a major wet fart.
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AlphaKretin posted:Echoing the sentiment that the DLC case was just OK. The loving butler actually did it, goddamnit. Right up until the thought route I was convinced that (DLC case ending spoilers) the Time Keeper was some kind of video camera, maybe holographic, that Sorin had invented to record an image of his wedding day because he knew he wouldn't be able to remember it. It seemed obvious that the thought route would have you deducing the machine's purpose from his memory issues, then you would activate the Time Keeper again and it would show you images that seem entirely useless but actually contain the final piece of evidence you need to prove the real murderer. And then it turned out to be ugly papier mache models under glass. That was a bit disappointing.
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Yeah, the DLC was pretty mediocre. I guessed who did it as soon as they turned up, and deduced their identity as soon as I saw the pocketwatch in Selena's photo. There weren't any good twists or swerves, which are the interesting parts. Also I don't like Larry and didn't miss him. Oh well.
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I quite liked the DLC. The culprit was obvious but that's true of like 90% of AA cases and I liked that he had a sinister controlling attitude without being an in-your-face rear end in a top hat for most of the case. I enjoyed the throwback to the Phoenix/Edgeworth dynamic, and how they were competitive but also needling each other over stupid poo poo like old friends do. The actual mechanics of the case were kindof lame (especially the thought route) but I liked the case-specific characters well enough and I feel like the case made sense on an emotional level.
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Sep 30, 2016 19:02
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DLC "you can have this fingerprint powder" Ema, I like you but gently caress off with that poo poo, it doesn't work proper in this game!
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Josuke Higashikata posted:DLC At the very least it worked best here, ha.
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http://www.capcom-unity.com/zeroobjections/blog/2016/10/01/one-grand-finale-weddings-rakugo-and-succession The final dev blog!
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Waffleman_ posted:http://www.capcom-unity.com/zeroobjections/blog/2016/10/01/one-grand-finale-weddings-rakugo-and-succession This dude seems like he'd be really annoying to talk to.
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Lurdiak posted:This dude seems like he'd be really annoying to talk to. Say what? He sounds like he's fun to talk to. Also nice to see a bunch of stuff I thought was happening turned out right. Also the fact the major reason the rakugo case exists is that they *really* wanted to use a pun. (Also as a breather buy still).
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 Did you guys know that Apollo moderated the last Presidential debate?
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Raxivace posted:
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Raxivace posted:
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mabels big day posted:Edgeworth really needs to get a girlfriend. Miles Edgeworth is the kind of man who comes in from an international flight at 1 in the morning and decides "I'm going to my office." Speaking of Investigations, things I wish would come into the main series from spinoffs: Cross Examination Presto & voiced witness intros and breakdowns. Multi-witnesses can stay in spinoff land, it's a good place for them.
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mabels big day posted:a girlfriend. I don't think Edgey swings that way
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I don't think Edgey swings that way He's married to his work
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I don't think Edgey swings that way That's unsubstantiated.
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Finished the DLC and I liked it, but it's certainly a more somber serious tone then I expected given the silly premise and how the last games DLC was. I think that's something that wound up hurting it for me because (general spoilers) as silly as it would of been I was expecting real genuine time travel and some kind of hijinks with that to take place leading to some lighter stuff happening instead of the time travel we got. Honestly day 1 was a drag and could of been better but day 2 is what saved it for me even if Pierce was only on the stand for a grand total of 5 minutes before his break down. Totally incorrect guess I had early on was he was the killer but he did it because he loved Sorin. For a long while I thought the two male pegamoo's were hinting at that. Also man last time I played the original trilogy was around their original release but I don't remember Larry being this loving awful in those games. Is my memory faulty or did they reeeally ratchet him up in this? I kinda came away hating him by the end of it.
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Larry was fine in 1 and his first appearance in 3. In 3-5, he was getting there, but it ended with him realizing that maybe he needed to change himself. THEN INVESTIGATIONS HAPPENED and multiple characters just kinda got flanderized to hell.
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Ah that's a shame. One thing I sincerely hope moving forward is that someone gets a memo that these games need way more characters. Like a lot more. It's kind of bland and boring knowing who the villain of each mystery is the second you see them because the only NPC's involved with models are the Defendant, Witness 1 and Guilty Party that follows after them. Like you can instantly tell who the guilty person is even with that because all the criminals have some kind of wacky design you can tell they're going to use as props for their breakdown animation. I want to juggle between a bunch of different testimonies dangit 
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Well, (Case 3) I was expecting Beh'leeb's portrait of Tahrust to be used in a breakdown, but then the feels train happened.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Ah that's a shame. *nods*
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Waffleman_ posted:Well, (Case 3) I was expecting Beh'leeb's portrait of Tahrust to be used in a breakdown, but then the feels train happened. Yeah I definitely was expecting her veil to come off and for her to be the most vicious killer, killing both her beloved husband of several decades and the perfect monk... but then I ended up just being cry too. That's why case 3 was one of my faves. More characters also means more puns and more designs, so yes please.
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I don't think Edgey swings that way Wasn't there an actual interview where someone said Edgeworth wasn't interested in woman? Of course, this being Japan, if there was it was probably meant in a "he's married to the job" way, not a "he's ace/gay" way.
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While the DLC may not have been the greatest case in the series, or even the game, I still had a blast (DLC and Full Game Spoilers) interacting with all the old AA characters. And while I haven't played AAI2 yet past the first case, if I can survive Larry in the last case of AAI1 I can tolerate him here. I'm pretty sure that had to be his peak annoyingness. And while I WOULD like more characters in some of these cases, I honestly think it fairly obvious who the real killer is most of the time anyways, the real thrill for me is finding out how it all fit together. Though, yeah the DLC had several things that were maybe a bit too obvious. I mean, I know there's ridiculous things in this series, and Phoenix kinda does his thing of throwing things out there to eventually try and figure things out, but the way he was so fixated on actual time travel on the first day was just a little farfetched. Especially when this whole double event thing has already cropped up for him a few times before! If there's anything I want more from this series, it's more rear end in a top hat villains. These kinda sympathetic ones are a little bit of a buzz kill when you finally nail them. I mean, they're murderers and all that, but if I recall correctly, that's the death penalty in this universe, and Geiru and Pierce just don't seem hate-able enough to wish that on them Anyways, now I'm sad there'll be no new Ace Attorenying for another few years. At least I have AAI2 to still get through, and it's been a long enough time that I can play through the older ones again, but that's never the same.  .
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I'm OK with Larry and Oldbag in AAI because Edgeworth having a crisis over them being the cast of the Steel Samurai stage show was hilarious. 
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Oldbag was funny once in that game, but they really shouldn't have used that exact same joke in two different cases.
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You know who I'd like a follow-up on? Ron DeLite aka Mask☆DeMasque. I wonder what delightful shenanigans he and his hot biker wife have gotten up to.
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