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Martian Manfucker
Dec 27, 2012

misandry is real

Sirotan posted:

For even more methylmercury fun, there's always Minamata! Also pretty :nms:.

"Pollution was so heavy at the mouth of the wastewater canal, a figure of 2 kg of mercury per ton of sediment was measured: a level that would be economically viable to mine. Indeed, Chisso did later set up a subsidiary to reclaim and sell the mercury recovered from the sludge."

:captainpop:

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Chard
Aug 24, 2010




It's just sound economics.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


EKDS5k posted:

Use a radio, and turn it up loud enough to hear it from the breaker room.
Okay but what is a 'radio' grandpa?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

SLOSifl posted:

Okay but what is a 'radio' grandpa?

It’s a single‐purpose device that runs Spotify without an Internet connection, except that you can’t customise anything.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Good Lord.

Encrypted
Feb 25, 2016

nozh posted:

"Pollution was so heavy at the mouth of the wastewater canal, a figure of 2 kg of mercury per ton of sediment was measured: a level that would be economically viable to mine. Indeed, Chisso did later set up a subsidiary to reclaim and sell the mercury recovered from the sludge."

:captainpop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihFkyPv1jtU
:catdrugs:

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah assuming it's not a catastrophic pressure-main failure (and you loving know when those happen, it's biblical) it's just finding its way out through the existing cracks.

It will eventually undermine the road but it'll get fixed before that's likely to be an issue. The bigger problem is when they fix it in a hurry and don't let the substrate dry before relaying the road so the ground settles under the (new/well-repaired) pipe and causes it to crack further on. Then they fix that in a hurry, rinse, repeat, and find out why there's been at least one lane closed of the road outside my house for the last loving year.

In Cook MN the water tower broke one winter at 40 below or more. It dumped all its water at once. Every street beneath was coated in about 6" of ice. Cars were frozen to the ground.

/CSB

The Sausages
Sep 30, 2012

What do you want to do? Who do you want to be?

Sirotan posted:

For even more methylmercury fun, there's always Minamata! Also pretty :nms:.

Yeah I ended up on that page as well as the Iraqi grain disaster page, the NMS component includes the government/industry coverup efforts:

quote:

Chisso ... withheld information on its industrial processes, leaving researchers to speculate what products the factory was producing and by what methods. The Chisso factory's hospital director, Hajime Hosokawa, established a laboratory in the research division of the plant to carry out his own experiments into Minamata disease in July 1959. Food to which factory wastewater had been added was fed to healthy cats. Seventy-eight days into the experiment, cat 400 exhibited symptoms of Minamata disease and pathological examinations confirmed a diagnosis of organic mercury poisoning. The company did not reveal these significant results to the investigators and ordered Hosokawa to stop his research. In an attempt to undermine Kumamoto University researchers' organic mercury theory, Chisso and other parties with a vested interest that the factory remain open (including the Ministry of International Trade and Industry and the Japan Chemical Industry Association) funded research into alternative causes of the disease, other than its own waste.

quote:

Chisso installed a Cyclator purification system on December 19, 1959, and opened it with a special ceremony. Chisso's president Kiichi Yoshioka drank a glass of water supposedly treated through the Cyclator to demonstrate that it was safe. In fact, the wastewater from the acetaldehyde plant, which the company knew still contained mercury and led to Minamata disease when fed to cats, was not treated through the Cyclator at the time. Testimony at a later Niigata Minamata disease trial proved that Chisso knew the Cyclator to be completely ineffective: "The purification tank was installed as a social solution and did nothing to remove organic mercury."

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on 26 September 1968 — 12 years after the discovery of the disease (and four months after Chisso had stopped production of acetaldehyde using its mercury catalyst) — the government issued an official conclusion as to the cause of Minamata disease:

"Minamata disease is a disease of the central nervous system, a poisoning caused by long-term consumption, in large amounts, of fish and shellfish from Minamata Bay. The causative agent is methylmercury. Methylmercury produced in the acetaldehyde acetic acid facility of Shin Nihon Chisso's Minamata factory was discharged in factory wastewater... Minamata disease patients last appeared in 1960, and the outbreak has ended. This is presumed to be because consumption of fish and shellfish from Minamata Bay was banned in the fall of 1957, and the fact that the factory had waste-treatment facilities in place from January 1960."

The conclusion contained many factual errors: eating fish and shellfish from other areas of the Shiranui Sea, not just Minamata Bay, could cause the disease; eating small amounts, as well as large amounts of contaminated fish over a long time also produced symptoms; the outbreak had not, in fact, ended in 1960 nor had mercury-removing wastewater facilities been installed in January 1960.


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Those who decided to sue the company came under fierce pressure to drop their lawsuits. One woman was visited personally by a Chisso executive and harassed by her neighbours. She was ignored, her family's fishing boat used without permission, their fishing nets were cut, and human faeces were thrown at her in the street.

I mean there's OSHA "Jim lost a finger / didn't come home from work today" and then there's OSHA "Let's pretend we aren't continuing to dump biocidal waste that's killing thousands of people and entire ecosystems while mining the deathzone we created, for as many years as we can keep getting away with it".




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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

mostlygray posted:

In Cook MN the water tower broke one winter at 40 below or more. It dumped all its water at once. Every street beneath was coated in about 6" of ice. Cars were frozen to the ground.

/CSB

I'm guessing it looked like this:











xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

jetz0r posted:

There's a good chance that device could damage the outlets, or break the breakers. It depends on age and type, but some percentage of breakers will fail to reset after being popped. And ya know, a hand held thing that blows a 15 amp circuit might be dangerous to hold.

Two people with radios or cell phones and a light bulb is safer, even though it sucks.

Fair enough, but for being so willing to throw him under the bus for being some foreign government saboteur, I'm betting a second person wasn't in the budget. Sucks to be him, really.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land





Was this dude peeing or something? What is he doing?

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012
Safety video.

"In the wild, the only natural predator of the train is bright orange. Here, a yardsman demonstrates why you should never wear bright colours in the hump yard as a large bull-train spots him and immediately charges".

IPCRESS fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 1, 2016

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Was this dude peeing or something? What is he doing?

Hooking some poo poo up between cars, but the oncoming car was going faster than its supposed to in such operations.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Was this dude peeing or something? What is he doing?
It's an old hand showing how big his balls are and was probably preceded by saying something like "hey new guy, take a look at how we used to do this poo poo" which is like the "hey hold my beer" of industrial settings.

In a previous incarnation of this thread it was accompanied by some yard worker explaining a lot of that still happens because not slamming cars together and hooking them before the rebound just takes too long.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

zedprime posted:

In a previous incarnation of this thread it was accompanied by some yard worker explaining a lot of that still happens because not slamming cars together and hooking them before the rebound just takes too long.

I can imagine how stressed those guys can get with the time constraints put on then. Not only are they made to get everything hooked together as quickly as possible, you have unique situations near where I live, where trains are so long nowadays that the train yard is not long enough to hold them. That means the train being assembled stretches out into civilian areas, and you end up with a train blocking a crossing for long periods while they move it back and forth adding on cars. The city is breathing down the rail companies neck, the rail company is all "Oh well, what can we do?", and I'm sure the guys on the ground are getting all the poo poo piled on them, as if it's their fault that a train yard built 100 years ago wasn't designed for the train lengths of today.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Was this dude peeing or something? What is he doing?

Connecting the cars by placing a shackle between two fixed hooks on the cars. Afterwards he would have to connect the brake lines. He doesn't show off because he has no control over the speed of the car (somebody else probably screwed up there).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffers_and_chain_coupler

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

We did the math on it in yospos and there's a lower limit (assuming the rolling car is on its own and it's empty) of around 2000psi between those bumpers when the two cars collide. The phrase "hitting a grape with a hammer" may have come up

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Zopotantor posted:

Connecting the cars by placing a shackle between two fixed hooks on the cars. Afterwards he would have to connect the brake lines. He doesn't show off because he has no control over the speed of the car (somebody else probably screwed up there).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffers_and_chain_coupler
I don't know, a risk analysis would probably say he could have control over the speed of the car by not standing in the line of fire of a moving car.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

zedprime posted:

I don't know, a risk analysis would probably say he could have control over the speed of the car by not standing in the line of fire of a moving car.

It's apparently standard practice (I see it done regularly in the rail yard adjacent to the local station), but not at that speed.

Masturbasturd
Sep 1, 2014
General Bullshit > OSHA: Fear and Latheing in GBS

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Honestly there's nothing really wrong with this other than the goofy stupidity. Polarization is maintained and most cheap power strips just have all the lines paralleled behind there anyways.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

There's no way a rally car would hit anything on the inside of a turn... right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIv5ystD1yk

1 dead, 1 in the ICU with her skull cracked open :smith:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Jonny 290 posted:

Honestly there's nothing really wrong with this other than the goofy stupidity. Polarization is maintained and most cheap power strips just have all the lines paralleled behind there anyways.

I have the flu so I might be completely missing the point but isn't it pretty darn dangerous to have an outlet where the receptacles aren't recessed so as to make it impossible to touch live prongs?

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Jerry Cotton posted:

I have the flu so I might be completely missing the point but isn't it pretty darn dangerous to have an outlet where the receptacles aren't recessed so as to make it impossible to touch live prongs?

Welcome to america, or any country that has american style outlets.

Though, bridging contact issues mostly lead to fires, it's pretty rare for a human to bridge them and the 120v shock when it does happen isn't usually high enough to kill. The major concern is people (kids) sticking foreign objects in the sockets, and recessed doesn't make any difference to that.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

EoRaptor posted:

Welcome to america, or any country that has american style outlets.

So... the US and ???

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

EoRaptor posted:

Welcome to america, or any country that has american style outlets.

Caring about people's well being is Socialism, and we don't abide that sort of talk here in the States.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Jerry Cotton posted:

So... the US and ???

:canada:


also Central America, northern South America, Japan, and the Philippines

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Oct 2, 2016

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Oh yeah sorry the US and colonies thereof. :troll:

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

EoRaptor posted:

Welcome to america, or any country that has american style outlets.

Though, bridging contact issues mostly lead to fires, it's pretty rare for a human to bridge them and the 120v shock when it does happen isn't usually high enough to kill. The major concern is people (kids) sticking foreign objects in the sockets, and recessed doesn't make any difference to that.

Many new sockets have anti-taper safety shutters so a kid can't stick a paper clip into the outlet. Basically the shutters are interlocked and you need to push on each simultaneously for them to open.

At work we have safety shutters on the newer switchgear - if you pull a circuit breaker out and look into the compartment (about the size of a washing machine) there are fiberglass panels with warning labels. The three live 14000V connectors to the bus and three going to the load are behind that shutter.

If you know what you are doing you can force the shutter open when there is no circuit breaker and you can see the energized connectors. Not recommended but it's sometimes necessary to do things like checking phase sequence.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Jerry Cotton posted:

So... the US and ???

Red China.

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 2, 2016

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
:nms:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK609rbSBLs:nms:

:dogbutton:

Somebody fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Oct 3, 2016

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Ow.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

I'm willing to bet the dude walked into a stick and said "whoa sick, look at all this blood I'll tell the internet it was an animal attack."

e: oh welp watched further and there's more than just a scratch on his head.

Abyssal Squid fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 3, 2016

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Holy poo poo, that needs :nms::nms::nms::nms: for bits hanging off a human so hard.

Abyssal Squid posted:

I'm willing to bet the dude walked into a stick and said "whoa sick, look at all this blood I'll tell the internet it was an animal attack."

Do you have some Mr. Bean kinds of acrobatics in mind for how he got all the damage in other places?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

He's surprisingly calm for just having been mauled by a bear. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Collateral Damage posted:

He's surprisingly calm for just having been mauled by a bear. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

Adrenaline fuckin' rocks until it's sudden absence; then you're throwing up outside your work right before your shift at McDonald's and your boss sends you home after you just made it after getting hit by a car.

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MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


So much adrenaline that he stops to make a video.

:black101:

That come-down on the way to the hospital is going to suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

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