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spit on my clit posted:ah 4kids king DDD, the only voice befitting D'Arby How can I help you, Mister Dio? I NEED A STAND TO CLOBBAH THAT THERE JOJO
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MrAristocrates posted:Dubs are good, friends, and JoJo dubs are even better Theyve got british accents, so it goes in the garbage. I dont know what they were thinking with Joseph VA.
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Oct 2, 2016 16:49
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I enjoy the dub of JoJo. The OVA Dub is also cheesy as gently caress but pretty entertaining, especially Dio's VA who they go full ham with, god drat does that dude go ham.
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Oct 2, 2016 16:51
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Meme Emulator posted:Theyve got british accents, so it goes in the garbage. I dont know what they were thinking with Joseph VA. They've got accents that americans think are british but aren't. It's cringey as hell.
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Oct 2, 2016 16:56
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Meme Emulator posted:Theyve got british accents, so it goes in the garbage. I dont know what they were thinking with Joseph VA. It was meant to be a different take on the character, is basically it. They knew they weren't going to outright top Sugita, so they tried a different approach to it. A lot of people I talk to online like it, but it's definitely cheesy as gently caress to the point where it turns some people off. I think Diskin does hit a lot of his lines really well despite how silly it can get and he hits the high points pretty well. He's not Sugita, but Sugita's also not Hochu Otsuka and I think there's enough room for me to like all three of them for their own thing.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:05
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Aurain do you like japanese Goku this is important
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Oct 2, 2016 17:11
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North Americans will never know how grating it is to have someone ape your accent in the most tremendously racist way possible so Josuke has my sympathy for the JoJo dub.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:13
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EmmyOk posted:North Americans will never know how grating it is to have someone ape your accent in the most tremendously racist way possible so Josuke has my sympathy for the JoJo dub. I've heard Japanese voice acted versions of American characters, it's pretty funny.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:15
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wet your whistlers mother posted:I've heard Japanese voice acted versions of American characters, it's pretty funny. Okay that is always 100% great agreed. However Irish characters in literally anything are always quite grating to me personally. I'm fine with most dubs and I think the difference is you can hear people doing accents and affectations (like snooty person) much more easily in your native tongue whereas all Japanese sounds alike to me. So even if Japanese voice actors are overdoing it or wooden it is far harder to discern compared to dubs in English. That said there are no good tough guy voices in English dubs, fight me.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:17
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There are actually a lot of good tough guy voices in English dubs and not even just American ones.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:18
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I find Japanese tough guy voices tend to me much rougher and more guttural which sounds far cooler to me. Mugen in Champloo's English dub just sounds like a pokemon baddy compared to the wild dog in Japanese. Darker than Black and FMA had gureito dubs though and I liked them a lot, Durarara too.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:20
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I actually really liked the Samurai Champloo dub a lot. I watched the whole series last year I believe? Whenever it ran on Toonami. The voice acting seemed really top notch, and I appreciated watching it quite a bit, even if it's apparently completely inferior to Cowboy Bebop (And also an anime I should've watched a long time ago  )
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Oct 2, 2016 17:28
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The Samurai Champloo dub rules It's not really a Tough Guy voice but Ladd Russo's voice in the Baccano dub kick rear end as a bad dude voice. Baccano kicks rear end
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Oct 2, 2016 17:30
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Hace posted:Aurain do you like japanese Goku this is important Yeah, she's cool. I don't dislike Faulconer but I prefer the og OST too.
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EmmyOk posted:I find Japanese tough guy voices tend to me much rougher and more guttural which sounds far cooler to me. Mugen in Champloo's English dub just sounds like a pokemon baddy compared to the wild dog in Japanese. Darker than Black and FMA had gureito dubs though and I liked them a lot, Durarara too. I don't disagree, but I'm also so used to hearing Japanese delinquent voices that something like isn't just like inherently tough to me anymore. it also just gets kinda ridiculous sometimes where certain times they just shout and make noises and that makes them lose a lot of their coolness factor. I do definitely think that there's no real 1:1 comparison for those voices in English. Like the closest I could think of would be like 1950s Greasers and they edge more on sounding tough for the time whereas now being a tough dude from New York is basically a big joke. So whenever the Part 4 dub rolls around, it's gonna be pretty weird to someone who isn't Takagi voicing Okuyasu and that voice is far too unique for anyone to potentially try and match that they're gonna have to go for something different and I can't imagine what it would be. That being said Jotaro in English sounds really good and has a good tough guy voice to me, because Matt Mercer is generally a very good voice actor. That being said, a good tough guy voice I feel like a lot of people know and like is Scott McNeil, who is canadian and has a really cool voice. Moltrey posted:The Samurai Champloo dub rules Also yeah, Bryan Massey's a loving awesome VA when he gets to do anything that's not side characters. LightningKimba posted:I actually really liked the Samurai Champloo dub a lot. I watched the whole series last year I believe? Whenever it ran on Toonami. The voice acting seemed really top notch, and I appreciated watching it quite a bit, even if it's apparently completely inferior to Cowboy Bebop (And also an anime I should've watched a long time ago The Champloo dub is fantastic and I'm one of those guys who actually likes Champloo more than Bebop, so I wouldn't say it's completely inferior, but that's another discussion for another time.
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Oct 2, 2016 17:33
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There are good dubs, and truthfully Jojo doesn't seem like a bad dub, Jojo is just so unbelievably Japanese even when it's British or Italian that I don't really care to see anything but the original. e: is Crispin Freeman in the Jojo dub at any point
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Oct 2, 2016 17:35
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if you watch jojo in english then it won't be funny when Joseph says says the swears and that's terrible
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Oct 2, 2016 17:37
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p much
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Rodyle posted:There are good dubs, and truthfully Jojo doesn't seem like a bad dub, Jojo is just so unbelievably Japanese even when it's British or Italian that I don't really care to see anything but the original. No, he hasn't been in an English dub for a good while Pomp posted:if you watch jojo in english then it won't be funny when Joseph says says the swears and that's terrible That's true, yeah
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Pomp posted:if you watch jojo in english then it won't be funny when Joseph says says the swears and that's terrible Just switch to his original VA for those lines.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:11
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They have already shown Polnareff with no french accent and it's unfortunate, because this is the one character who should absolutely have one.
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I have never seen Bebop but I've seen Champloo multiple times. I was really excited that Bebop was going to be on Crunchyroll but apparently it's only coming to Crunchyroll North America  The Japanese VA for Mugen also does Zoro in One Piece and I think he's marvelous which is why Mugen is irreplaceable for me. I think the only other Japanese VA I can recognise is the one who plays Jiraiya in Naruto.wet your whistlers mother posted:I don't disagree, but I'm also so used to hearing Japanese delinquent voices that something like isn't just like inherently tough to me anymore. it also just gets kinda ridiculous sometimes where certain times they just shout and make noises and that makes them lose a lot of their coolness factor. I do definitely think that there's no real 1:1 comparison for those voices in English. Like the closest I could think of would be like 1950s Greasers and they edge more on sounding tough for the time whereas now being a tough dude from New York is basically a big joke. So whenever the Part 4 dub rolls around, it's gonna be pretty weird to someone who isn't Takagi voicing Okuyasu and that voice is far too unique for anyone to potentially try and match that they're gonna have to go for something different and I can't imagine what it would be. That being said Jotaro in English sounds really good and has a good tough guy voice to me, because Matt Mercer is generally a very good voice actor. Yeah I don't watch nearly enough anime to have that kind of fatigue but that makes a lot of sense. There's plenty of voices that mean little to me in Japanese that I am super excited to hear in English some day for example All Might in MHA has a cool voice but I'm way more excited to hear that in English because he's so heavily Western inspired.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:20
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Kazuya Nakai is p amazing yeah
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EmmyOk posted:Okay that is always 100% great agreed. However Irish characters in literally anything are always quite grating to me personally. I'm fine with most dubs and I think the difference is you can hear people doing accents and affectations (like snooty person) much more easily in your native tongue whereas all Japanese sounds alike to me. So even if Japanese voice actors are overdoing it or wooden it is far harder to discern compared to dubs in English. That said there are no good tough guy voices in English dubs, fight me. EmmyOk what are your thoughts on Dagda from SMTIV:A
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I googled it there, he sounds quite american still but the accent he's doing is closer to Scottish than Irish. To be fair though I doubt most people outside the British Isles can tell and occasionally on rural accents it's hard to tell if it's Scottish or Irish.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:32
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I started playing Vanquish with the English voices but had to switch to Japanese because the English voices everyone sounded like sissies whereas in Japanese the huge muscly dudes sound like badasses.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:35
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El Hefe posted:I started playing Vanquish with the English voices but had to switch to Japanese because the English voices everyone sounded like sissies whereas in Japanese the huge muscly dudes sound like badasses. Vanquish is extremely great everyone play it asap
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If were talking video game dubs, I changed every 3d Ninja Gaiden game to japanese because I'm a big enough dweeb that a ninja speaking english with an american accent makes my blood boil gosh darnit!!! Also the main character's english voice was really flat and boring but that's not the point e: and about Joseph's english va, I'm basically deaf to good accents but I still cringed at how fake the british accent sounded smuh fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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EmmyOk posted:I googled it there, he sounds quite american still but the accent he's doing is closer to Scottish than Irish. To be fair though I doubt most people outside the British Isles can tell and occasionally on rural accents it's hard to tell if it's Scottish or Irish. I have trouble telling sometimes, but I feel like I can usually differentiate. I struggle to tell British accents apart a bit more, because all I really know is Cockney and that's because it's so distinct to me. El Hefe posted:I started playing Vanquish with the English voices but had to switch to Japanese because the English voices everyone sounded like sissies whereas in Japanese the huge muscly dudes sound like badasses. Wtf is this, Gideon Emery is awesome
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I always associate JoJo with over-the-top bullshit so ridiculously bad accents are a positive. I also just love Diskin whenever I hear him, dude's great.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:47
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Ben Diskin's a v good voice actor, yeah.
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MrAristocrates posted:I always associate JoJo with over-the-top bullshit so ridiculously bad accents are a positive. I also just love Diskin whenever I hear him, dude's great.
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Polnareff should absolutely have one yeah but any disappointment from that is outweighed by Bryce loving Pappenbrook throwing out the most absurd Italian accent I've ever heard in my life, it's loving amazing
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wet your whistlers mother posted:I have trouble telling sometimes, but I feel like I can usually differentiate. I struggle to tell British accents apart a bit more, because all I really know is Cockney and that's because it's so distinct to me. Yeah they're usually fairly different and in person I'd never make the mistake but hearing someone speak online etc. I occasionally think "Is that Northern Irish or Scottish" for a second. When I am reading manga I try to imagine different voices for the characters and at one point in Air Gear where it mentioned Sora is from a different city so for US readers to imagine the difference between NYC and LA or two cities from your own country. I just imagined generic american accents for them because it'd sound too ridiculous otherwise.
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EmmyOk posted:Okay that is always 100% great agreed. However Irish characters in literally anything are always quite grating to me personally. I'm fine with most dubs and I think the difference is you can hear people doing accents and affectations (like snooty person) much more easily in your native tongue whereas all Japanese sounds alike to me. So even if Japanese voice actors are overdoing it or wooden it is far harder to discern compared to dubs in English.
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just lol if you don't think joseph joestar sounds like zak dingle
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So yeah I'm looking at the new OP and...   Does Kira seriously have three stands? Did his dad just keep stabbing him with the arrow repeatedly? Did he hand out stands as a reward anytime Kira won 3rd place in something?
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Dragonwagon posted:So yeah I'm looking at the new OP and... Who knows, maybe it will be answered in an upcoming episode? (It will be, get hype) Also, Sheer Heart Attack is just one of Killer Queen's abilities, it's not a second stand.
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