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CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



I have been seeing billboards and bus advertisements for The Last Guardian, that means it must be really finally happening, right?

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FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!
I don't think the questions is IF VR will succeed or fail, but rather WHEN will VR take with consumers. I think it will build a solid small user base in the next couple years, but not sure if it will become widespread yet, maybe in another 5-10 years when the graphics improve and you don't need a $800+ computer to run decent VR (lets be honest, the Playstation VR will not compete with the PC based ones graphically).

A lot of people think it is a gimmick like 3D TVs, but I think of it as the next TV/monitor.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

El Hefe posted:

You can already do that with a phone, or a tablet, or a computer, or a ps vita.

PS4 Streaming is on Android tablets now? Sweet.

Is it done through the Playstation App?

Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 3, 2016

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I would accept an Armored Core VR

I can only get so erect.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Well, one of fromsofts 3 new games is a VR game so it's very possible.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


playstation vr: this is where the real printing press begins

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I would accept an Armored Core VR
We know that From is making both a new Armored Core and a PSVR game. Maybe they're one and the same, I think they'd have to bring the speed of AC combat back down to like PS1 AC game standards to be VR friendly though. The games from PS2 on would be insane

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

FireMrshlBill posted:

A lot of people think it is a gimmick like 3D TVs, but I think of it as the next TV/monitor.

Why?

Like why would VR replace television? It assumes an incredibly narrow definition of television. What if people want to watch a show together/ Will they all have to have their own VR device? Will it be expected people are just carrying their VR devices around together?

A monitor? Do you think someone working in an office environment is going to want to completely block the world out in favor of "VR monitors" which are inevitably going to be significantly more expensive and prone to failure that regular monitors? A lot of companies use significantly outdates OSes and computers to begin with, nobody is going to significantly update for VR which offers no real significant advantages over traditional monitor/dual monitor setups.

VR absolutely can find use in specific things and that wouldn't be a surprise but becoming a universally accepted thing where people are buying VR headsets instead of televisions and monitors? Really?

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



CrashCat posted:

they should have announced a VR Bloodborne, the cognitive dissonance would have exploded some heads

I can't imagine how nauseating framepacing problems would be in VR

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

ImpAtom posted:

Like why would VR replace television? It assumes an incredibly narrow definition of television. What if people want to watch a show together/ Will they all have to have their own VR device? Will it be expected people are just carrying their VR devices around together?
No one is saying this.

FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!

ImpAtom posted:

Why?

Like why would VR replace television? It assumes an incredibly narrow definition of television. What if people want to watch a show together/ Will they all have to have their own VR device? Will it be expected people are just carrying their VR devices around together?

A monitor? Do you think someone working in an office environment is going to want to completely block the world out in favor of "VR monitors" which are inevitably going to be significantly more expensive and prone to failure that regular monitors? A lot of companies use significantly outdates OSes and computers to begin with, nobody is going to significantly update for VR which offers no real significant advantages over traditional monitor/dual monitor setups.

VR absolutely can find use in specific things and that wouldn't be a surprise but becoming a universally accepted thing where people are buying VR headsets instead of televisions and monitors? Really?

I didn't mean to replace the TV or monitor, but to become accepted as a standard display device. There is no rule that limits us to one visual display medium type.

VR will continue to grow. Augmented reality headsets will be interesting and may get some traction as well.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


now, do i make a joke about how the monitor is failed tech because it didnt replace the tv, or do i joke that the monitor has replaced the tv, in this good analogy to be mad about vr for some reason

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

FireMrshlBill posted:

I didn't mean to replace the TV or monitor, but to become accepted as a standard display device. There is no rule that limits us to one visual display medium type.

Well, aside from a few niche businesses, I genuinely don't see why VR would become a standard display device. The minimal benefits it offers would be heavily outweighed by the negatives in most business and private situations. I'm sure it will eventually find a niche but I just don't see it becoming anything more than a cool bit of tech.

I feel like this is basically the modern equivalent of that thing where people tried to convince people that everyone would need to have a Second Life presence because digital life was the future. I certainly remember how well Playstation Home did.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


I don't get the appeal of those at all and its very funny to me that some people were so wild about Home that they kept it going for so long

AlwaysWetID34
Mar 8, 2003
*shrug*
Jurrasic Park scientists used VR to sequence Dino DNA... If that's not proof enough of VR's Value I don't know what is.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


rabidsquid posted:

I don't get the appeal of those at all and its very funny to me that some people were so wild about Home that they kept it going for so long

you should see Atom Universe, it's a downright tragic attempt to make another Home

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



McFunkerson posted:

Jurrasic Park scientists used VR to sequence Dino DNA... If that's not proof enough of VR's Value I don't know what is.

I wish operating systems had turned out to look like what they had in that movie :smith:

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The one in the movie did exist.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
vr might be cool but I think I'm fine with TVs and monitors for now until VR stuff has gone down in price (or crashed and burned, either way)

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I'm going to take a 360 video of my penis and blow myself in VR.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

veni veni veni posted:

I'm going to take a 360 video of my penis and blow myself in VR.

VR isn't able to register visuals that small unfortunately.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I thought it had enhance and zoom like anything high tech should.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Chromehounds VR :colbert:



I would say Last Guardian VR but it would run at like 2fps. Maybe.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




I'm gonna cancel my PSVR and buy new winter tires.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

You think there's a future in tires? Dead technology.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
1.) New generation of VR is nothing like the junk of the past. I thought that too at first, but this the current offerings are fairly impressive and do offer a solid degree of immersion. People who think this is Virtua boy 2 need to try a set.

2.) VR isn't going to replace everything for consuming media, it is going to be a new and eventually compelling way to play games and watch concerts/movies/porn/whatever. It still has a way to go. This is like the first clutzy iPods, in 5 years imagine where things will be.

3.) The world needs bloodborne VR.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




I just want Mafia III to be good so I can shoot the Klan for Christmas.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Housh posted:

I just want Mafia III to be good so I can shoot the Klan for Christmas.

The first game to be banned in Trump's America

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Housh posted:

I'm gonna cancel my PSVR and buy new winter tires.

I canceled my PSVR to buy a 1070. I am a reactionary, the old guard, the first up against the wall when the VRevolution comes

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


PC dudes were (are?) super hyped up for the facebook vr by the guy who loves to post trump memes

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I canceled my PSVR to buy a 1070. I am a reactionary, the old guard, the first up against the wall when the VRevolution comes

Don't worry it is westworld guns with VR bullets that only kill your Facebook/Twitter accounts.

I don't have either, I feel so old. :(

FireMrshlBill
Aug 13, 2006

LEMME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!!!
Ya, I don't expect VR to blow up overnight, but I think it will catch on and become something more than niche in the next decade or so as it becomes more immersive.

rabidsquid posted:

PC dudes were (are?) super hyped up for the facebook vr by the guy who loves to post trump memes

I enjoy a nice anti-Hillary meme as much as I enjoy an anti-Trump meme.... but I'd still get a Vive over an Oculus


On a different note, I recently got my wife to switch from using my PS4 for Blu Rays to using my XB1 because I get tired of switching discs and would rather the XB1 get more wear and tear since I prefer to game on the PS4. She mentioned that she thinks the XB1 actually looks better for Blu Rays... after giving it a look, I had to agree. What is up with that? I think the PS4 may just have a cooler color palette or something so the white balance is different, though very minimally and not enough for me to notice until we switched to using the XB1. I usually prefer cooler color palettes to warmer ones, so not sure why that would bother me here. TV settings are both set to GAME, so it shouldn't be that, though the XB1 is on a HDMI switch (I'd think that would have an negative effect if anything at all). Is this a general consensus that we are just realizing, or are we just imagining things? Oh well, I am just glad the XB1 is finally getting some use other than ~5 modern games and BC 360 games.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

So I rented Mirror's Edge Catalyst and I'm having HUGE streaming issues with the title. Whole character models popping in, grates, vents, and pipes literally shifting from grey blocks inches away from me. I compared online video playthroughs and realized that this is not normal.

This is the first title I've had any issues with, though my console was in my suitcase for a 40 hour road trip crosscountry for work a few months back. My console plays Uncharted 4 and NHL 17 perfectly fine.

I tried reinstalling the game too.

Is there a chance it could be the disk, and not my console beginning to crap out?

AlwaysWetID34
Mar 8, 2003
*shrug*

Aphrodite posted:

You think there's a future in tires? Dead technology.

Seriously, we've passed 2015, wtf are our flying cars.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




This future sucks. I can't wait until the simulation is over.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


I love all this vr talk but please note there is a psvr thread that is currently languishing on the fourth page of Games: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3790293

The nice thing about hardware is if it sucks you can return it. I'm pretty sure I'll know by the end of the first day if it has legs. It wouldn't even be the first VR I returned to Amazon.

Seedge
Jun 15, 2009
Hey, buddy. :glomp:



UnfortunateSexFart posted:

I love all this vr talk but please note there is a psvr thread that is currently languishing on the fourth page of Games: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3790293

The nice thing about hardware is if it sucks you can return it. I'm pretty sure I'll know by the end of the first day if it has legs. It wouldn't even be the first VR I returned to Amazon.

Where can you return hardware because "I didn't like it"?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

In the UK most places (all?) will give you a limited amount of time where you can return something if you deem it 'not fit for purpose' which could mean pretty much anything including 'I don't like it'.
It doesn't extend to media stuff usually but for any hardware.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Seedge posted:

Where can you return hardware because "I didn't like it"?

A lot of places, the trick is finding ones without restocking fees or lying I guess.

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rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Seedge posted:

Where can you return hardware because "I didn't like it"?

you can return any used hardware or software at gamestop for this reason, altho i hear they don't like it if you use it as a rental service essentially

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