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Phi230 posted:
Millennial trash discussion station. quote:Being young enough to be able to rethink long held beliefs is really nice and probably would have saved the Jedi. They really should have said "nah we're good" to the child slaver.
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teagone posted:I loved The Force Awakens and I also enjoyed the Plinkett's new review. I'm a Star Wars fan. I liked the previous reviews well enough, but the first 15 minutes(!) of this one is spent declaring George Lucas lazy. Over and over again. Pictures of Lucas sitting on chairs, while a voiceover declares him lazy. It's a total waste of time. e: The actual review starts one hour in.
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Oct 3, 2016 04:53
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I liked the previous reviews well enough, but the first 15 minutes(!) of this one is spent declaring George Lucas lazy. Over and over again. Pictures of Lucas sitting on chairs, while a voiceover declares him lazy. And we're supposed to think Lucas PLANNED this? No, he just decided to do it and then did it
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:e: The actual review starts one hour in. I was about to say it's been half an hour now
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Oct 3, 2016 05:12
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There's a pretty high correlation between people complaining about the Plinkett review's first hour and people who defend the prequels its almost like the critique of the bad culture of star wars is directed at those people i dunno
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Oct 3, 2016 05:20
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Hmmm, it's almost as if the sequels to the Pinkett reviews are bad because Plinkett "got a big head" and "surrounded himself with yes-men" and "sold out"
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Oct 3, 2016 05:23
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Cardboard Box A posted:Hmmm, it's almost as if the sequels to the Pinkett reviews are bad because Plinkett "got a big head" and "surrounded himself with yes-men" and "sold out" don't forget alcoholic
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Oct 3, 2016 05:31
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who would have guessed that cinema discusso posters would get mad at something that criticized dumb pretentious fanboys who make up convoluted theories to defend trash films for morons
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The review says almost nothing about The Force Awakens either. Remember how the prequel reviews involved, like, breaking down the special effects? Talking about the narrative structure, and the editing, etc.? There's none of that here. The prequels reviews were misguided but at least provided food for thought. This sucks.
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Oct 3, 2016 05:47
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Vegg220 posted:who would have guessed that cinema discusso posters would get mad at something that criticized dumb pretentious fanboys who make up convoluted theories to defend trash films for morons Da motherfuckin Tezzor
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Oct 3, 2016 05:53
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Yeah it's mostly bitching about top ten lists. CGI dudes have come a long way from CGI Peter Cushing though, wow. I thought that looked really good at the time.
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Phi230 posted:There's a pretty high correlation between people complaining about the Plinkett review's first hour and people who defend the prequels Vegg220 posted:who would have guessed that cinema discusso posters would get mad at something that criticized dumb pretentious fanboys who make up convoluted theories to defend trash films for morons Can you dudes actually point out the posters who think they're superior beings for liking the prequels?
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Oct 3, 2016 05:53
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Anyone who regged in 2016 is Tezzor
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Oct 3, 2016 05:59
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This review is two hours of an e-celeb complaining that the Internet has changed since he got famous.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Anyone who regged in 2016 is Tezzor teh z0r
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Oct 3, 2016 06:04
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Not sure what's so hard to grasp about the Plinkett review. Yeah he spends a lot of time on that Ring theory bullshit, but whatever. It did sound like bullshit. Anyway, I think his point about TFA is that it was well-crafted and entertaining and just fine, but it was basically fan service and by-the-numbers. The prequels were much more of a trainwreck but at least Lucas was doing poo poo that hadn't been done before. TFA just gave us another Death Star, just like Return/Jedi did. That's not to say that TFA didn't do some good stuff: Finn is interesting as a former Stormtrooper who breaks free, the stuff with Kylo Ren is interesting, Rey is pretty good, Poe Dameron is good. Hopefully Episode 7 takes these characters and does new things with them. But we can just as easily get a retread of Empire Strikes Back.
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Oct 3, 2016 06:32
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I wish the review didn't ever get to discussing TFA and was just an epilogue to the other reviews.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I liked the previous reviews well enough, but the first 15 minutes(!) of this one is spent declaring George Lucas lazy. Over and over again. Pictures of Lucas sitting on chairs, while a voiceover declares him lazy. To be fair, it's an all encompassing review of the current state of Star Wars as a franchise/money making machine featuring a review of The Force Awakens. Hence the title of the video. teagone fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Oct 3, 2016 06:47
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Ring Theory is dumb but less because it's justifying inherently bad movies! and more because it's acting like the basic concepts of themes and motifs are some kind of literature revolution. Plinkett basically spends something like half an hour just reading the poo poo on Ring Theory's website to you ad nauseam in this video, and then just plays that good ol' "It's like poetry" quote and acts like that disproves it all - when one of the fatal flaws of the Plinkett reviews is that, even if you didn't like the prequels, there's nothing wrong with that quote.
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Oct 3, 2016 06:51
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Pirate Jet posted:Ring Theory is dumb but less because it's justifying inherently bad movies! and more because it's acting like the basic concepts of themes and motifs are some kind of literature revolution. No I think the disproving was that the prequels were nothing but imagery and moments from the OT remixed at random, rather than by some design.
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Yeah I didn't find the Ring Theory stuff too objectionable since they did at least go to the trouble of finding examples of all three of the prequels using imagery and motifs from all three of the OT movies. That said, yeah, the twenty minute digression on how dumb listicles are felt, uh, a bit late to the party as it were. And they didn't really offer up any interesting food for thought on TFA either--the whole soft reboot thing is apt but I feel like most people got it when Creed, TFA, and Jurassic World all came out within 5 months of each other and did gangbusters. I don't even fully disagree with the diversity points but, again, this is stuff that was really apparent at first blush. Perhaps in some sense TFA is approaching the corporate platonic ideal--incredibly lucrative and immune to meaningful critique or discussion. Well that and it's so much a first act rather than a complete story that it's hard to talk about without the forthcoming episodes.
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Oct 3, 2016 09:44
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I enjoyed the review. Excuse my ignorance but does RLM have any association with the SA forums? I feel like they post here or something? Would it be fair to say they've read this thread enough to read SMG's posts? Anyway, I find myself rewatching TFA but I know all the beats so well there isn't anything I'm learning new. Its too well oiled to have surprises on repeat viewings.
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Oct 3, 2016 09:53
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he was right. why wasnt there more gay boys kissing eachother on the lips in the star wars ?/ why is jj abraham afraid to show us all what we want to see: gay boys kissing one another, on the lips of eachother
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Oct 3, 2016 10:04
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I liked the previous reviews well enough, but the first 15 minutes(!) of this one is spent declaring George Lucas lazy. Over and over again. Pictures of Lucas sitting on chairs, while a voiceover declares him lazy. So you're saying you'd prefer more of a soft reboot of the first plinkett reviews?
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Oct 3, 2016 10:31
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The video felt more like an internet rant video than the prequel reviews, critiques of critiques. I do like Plinkett saying that humorlessness is better than sexlessness.
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Oct 3, 2016 12:26
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Panzeh posted:The video felt more like an internet rant video than the prequel reviews, critiques of critiques. Wtf does that even mean
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Hat Thoughts posted:Wtf does that even mean Plinkett spent a good hour complaining that there was pro-prequel stuff on the internet written in a form he didn't like(I don't like listicles, either). It was pretty poo poo. Then he goes on talking about how there's too much humor in TFA and not enough sex, where the beauty of the original trilogy was in how humorless it was.
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Oct 3, 2016 12:39
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It's so nice to see kids who grew up watching Clone Wars and see no issues with the PT. One day there will be no more olds to yell at them and the many references to how bad the prequels are will seem even more dated and irrelevant than they already are.
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Oct 3, 2016 12:43
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People only dislike the prequels because they feel envious of children.
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Panzeh posted:Then he goes on talking about how there's too much humor in TFA and not enough sex, where the beauty of the original trilogy was in how humorless it was. Do u have a timecode/general time where he talks about why he thinks the original trilogy was humorless & how that improved it?
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Oct 3, 2016 12:47
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Plinkett questions the value of having the Finn character. I kind of take Finn as a near-literal audience member. He starts out as a Stormtrooper. All kids think the stormtroopers are neat, and who wouldn't want to be one in a film? That changes when you're forced to point a gun at people and kill them. He generally tries to do the right thing, even if the motivation is fear. He questions things for the audience's benefit, and generally does things a fan might do if dropped into the film - including getting his rear end kicked in a lightsaber fight.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:38
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Hat Thoughts posted:Wtf does that even mean He points out that in TFA almost every scene has a jokey line of dialogue undercutting the drama. Also, nobody wants to gently caress anybody. They're all just best friends. But in the originals stuff was treated a lot more seriously, and it was pretty clear Han and Luke at least thought about "getting with" Leia
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Oct 3, 2016 14:46
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Finn at least has some degree of attraction toward Rey. Listen to the jealousy in his voice when he asks if she has a "cute boyfriend" back on Jakku.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:50
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What movie did this dude watch? Finn obviously has a crush on Rey, Kylo Ren has a real creepy vibe towards her in the interrogation scene, and who could forget Chewie hitting on the space medic?
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Oct 3, 2016 14:54
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Serf posted:It's so nice to see kids who grew up watching Clone Wars and see no issues with the PT. One day there will be no more olds to yell at them and the many references to how bad the prequels are will seem even more dated and irrelevant than they already are. I'm sorry dudes on the internet told you your taste in movies was lovely as a little kid dude. That must have been very triggering. Yes yes, They'll All See and History Will Vindicate You. Go back to identifying so deeply with comical loser robots literally nobody cares about
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Vegg220 posted:I'm sorry dudes on the internet told you your taste in movies was lovely as a little kid dude. That must have been very triggering. Yes yes, They'll All See and History Will Vindicate You. Go back to identifying so deeply with comical loser robots literally nobody cares about Sup Tezzor. Why are you using two accounts now?
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Vegg220 posted:I'm sorry dudes on the internet told you your taste in movies was lovely as a little kid dude. That must have been very triggering. Yes yes, They'll All See and History Will Vindicate You. Go back to identifying so deeply with comical loser robots literally nobody cares about Uh, aren't you guys the ones asking for a safe space where no one is allowed to like the prequels?
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Vegg220 posted:Go back to identifying so deeply with comical loser robots literally nobody cares about If you can't identify with a comical loser robot then I don't know what to tell you.
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What kind of loser would identify with the disposable, pathetic battle droids? As for me, I identify with the epic, badass jed- what? They did WHAT? Anakin did W-...?! gently caress this! gently caress these movies! I've been betrayed!
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Serf posted:Sup Tezzor. Why are you using two accounts now? Tezzor is like Hydra, ban one account and two more will take its place. quote:What kind of loser would identify with the disposable, pathetic battle droids? As for me, I identify with the epic, badass jed- what? They did WHAT? Anakin did W-...?! gently caress this! gently caress these movies! I've been betrayed! I continue to identify with the little rat dude in Jabba's palace.
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