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Flesh Forge posted:"Losing your powers" is a rite of passage for basically all superheroes and I'd be interested to see that here, but mmmm yeah I doubt Mulligan would ever do that in the foreseeable future. Ordinary superheroes actually accomplish useful heroics, the point of her character is that her powers aren't actually useful despite being amazing. Losing them wouldn't really do anything useful story-wise.
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Hollismason posted:Uh... wait a second. Maybe he's the one actually increasing everyones powers he just doesn't know it.
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Sep 28, 2016 18:17
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Flesh Forge posted:I don't think Alison is very good at this negotiation stuff. If its that important to you Allison go beg Patrick to 'change his mind' for you.
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Sep 28, 2016 18:20
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God drat Allison is terrible at this. She's so bad at this that I find myself sympathizing with the people she's arguing against. She just fundamentally doesn't understand how to do things gradually, does she? Like, it's not hard to recognize that Max has some deep-seated issues that lead to him being an rear end in a top hat. If you start at the root of the problem, I'm sure you could talk him around eventually. Like, if you got Brad to hang out with him, I'm pretty sure that he has the level of emotional understanding that he'd eventually be able to get Max turned around. And maybe then he still doesn't want to use his power, and that's disappointing, but ultimately his decision. You don't charge in, give a bad apology for your previous behavior, insult him to his face, and then ask for his help!
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Sep 28, 2016 18:38
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idonotlikepeas keeps trying to argue how all this embarrassingly silly writing is in service of a larger point, but that point's overdue by, what, six months now
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Sep 28, 2016 18:42
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quote:Allison Cross-postin' 
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Sep 28, 2016 19:09
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The Lord of Hats posted:God drat Allison is terrible at this. She's so bad at this that I find myself sympathizing with the people she's arguing against. Introducing him to Brad would have been a great idea, because maybe he would have got to actually meet a bunch of other people who's dynamorphisms are not just lackluster but outright painful or oppressive to deal with, and then he would have some awareness that being wealthy not-superman is still miles better than being a guy who looks like a dog but still has to manage to work a regular job. Maybe he'd never use his powers anyway, but who knows maybe he would decide to direct some of his money to helping other people in some way. Or even just be less of an rear end in a top hat, which is still a positive thing.
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Sep 28, 2016 19:10
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Galvanik posted:I'd sure like to know what his power does exactly that would help Allison with whatever it is she wants to do. Nothing systematic, but there are probably lots of supers, Clever included, who wish they didn't have powers. And a large portion of Brad's group. If he can ramp up powers, maybe he can ramp them down, too.
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Sep 28, 2016 19:33
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Maybe have a little more tact with this guy who you blew up at last time when you're confronting them with their secret private information that you illegally obtained to get them to help with your dumb charity/outreach/cupcake organization.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:05
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This comic would honestly be more interesting if it detailed Allison's transformation into a supervillain that tries to force the world to "do good". Or maybe I can just go read Worm again. BravestOfTheLamps posted:Cross-postin' holy poo poo
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Sep 28, 2016 21:09
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Oracle posted:Christ, no. You realize the guy is a self-centered egotistical jerkface and you think calling him out about it THEN asking him for help is going to get you anything but thrown out of his house? Really? I wouldn't help her at this juncture, because she's a goddamn idiot. but you know it's going to work anyway  Calef posted:This comic would honestly be more interesting if it detailed Allison's transformation into a supervillain that tries to force the world to "do good". It really would, but no way 
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Sep 28, 2016 21:12
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Cross-postin' 21 White Girl Explains Social Justice
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Sep 28, 2016 21:34
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Oxxidation posted:idonotlikepeas keeps trying to argue how all this embarrassingly silly writing is in service of a larger point, but that point's overdue by, what, six months now There are certain things I'm willing to defend about this comic. The pacing is not in any way one of those things.
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Sep 29, 2016 01:43
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Cross-postin' A Fanfiction Writer posted:This comic is afraid of me... I have seen its true face. The pages are extended chapters and the panels are full of words and when the eyes slide off the page, all the heroes will drown. The accumulated letters of all their text and dialogue will foam up about their waists and all the villains and professors will look up and shout "Edit this!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."
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Flesh Forge posted:but you know it's going to work anyway eh I still don't get this at all. He has been pretty much designed to be someone who would never under any circumstances agree with her. That seems like the point of his entire character, so I'm not sure why you think he is going to suddenly change his ways. The more interesting question is whether or not he is going to have a working spine when this conversation is over. Though I guess most likely she'll just leave maybe after she crosses some line. Maybe she'll break part of his house? She seems pretty close to losing it here.
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idonotlikepeas, I agree with a lot of your points and just didn't have an effortpost about all it in me. I do want to point out that Mary is basically inevitable once you start with the superhero premise "superheroes can use their judgment to dispense violence" and then take away (as this comic has) the seemingly baked-in corollary "it's possible to reliably disable someone with violence nonfatally". Trying to draw a parallel to other superheroes is pointless, because Batman and Daredevil beat criminals into unconsciousness or bash a guy in the head several times with a carbon rod and still say with a straight face "I've never killed anyone". Alison killed that one guy with the flamethrower with one punch, and no one acted like that was particularly unusual in this world--it was the threat to kill everyone else that everyone reacted to. The story leaves room for disagreement with this viewpoint--Brad's story is basically the voice of the point of view that the basic premise of superheroism is flawed. Which is what I think is really important about that chapter--getting at the root of the idea of superheroism, forcing people to really examine it, at a time when superhero media is exploding in popularity. (And though it may have been a sloppy mistake in-universe, Mary getting away was a good story beat--leaving it narratively open-ended leaves the questions the chapter raises open-ended, rather than ending with a nice pat conclusion.) SlothfulCobra posted:Maybe have a little more tact with this guy who you blew up at last time when you're confronting them with their secret private information that you illegally obtained to get them to help with your dumb charity/outreach/cupcake organization. Speaking of which, maybe it was covered in the part of the conversation we didn't see (the part where any specifics at all were explained) but Max seems pretty incurious about how Alison found out about all this.
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JuniperCake posted:eh I still don't get this at all. He has been pretty much designed to be someone who would never under any circumstances agree with her. That seems like the point of his entire character, so I'm not sure why you think he is going to suddenly change his ways. I agree that's how it should/would go, but I am pessimistic that it actually will. We'll see
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Speaking of which, maybe it was covered in the part of the conversation we didn't see (the part where any specifics at all were explained) but Max seems pretty incurious about how Alison found out about all this.
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Sep 29, 2016 15:28
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 I choose to believe this is Max's entire rationale because I would kind of love him for it (right to left, I am a nerd).
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Sep 30, 2016 17:36
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 will she beat him up and make him join the supersocialjusticefriends?
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Flesh Forge posted:
I kind of hope so. He's an idiot to not have considered the risks of saying no.
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Wittgen posted:I kind of hope so. He's an idiot to not have considered the risks of saying no. This is something I always wanted the comic to explore more: the privilege of being a super strong, indestructible being. All she needs to do is ask someone to do something, and they would consider what she could do to them, then they would give whatever she wanted to her.
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http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-6/page-85-2/ John Galt Shkreli is now my favorite character in this comic.
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Oct 1, 2016 10:18
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what a grave miscarriage of justice.
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Oct 2, 2016 21:16
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Ahahaha And also I never noticed poor Furnace's corpse left to rot in the river, that's some lovely poo poo there.
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ManlyGrunting posted:what a grave miscarriage of justice. i'm truly at a loss.
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Oct 3, 2016 01:55
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Does Max feel the irony of claiming that someone is going to have deal with not getting what they want when he's literally richy rich with parents who can cover up the fact that he has super powers?
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Brought To You By posted:Does Max feel the irony of claiming that someone is going to have deal with not getting what they want when he's literally richy rich with parents who can cover up the fact that he has super powers? Probably not, self-awareness isn't exactly Max's strong suit. And man, there's a lot of people in the comments who are basically the straw men that libertarians like to argue against.
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Flesh Forge posted:And also I never noticed poor Furnace's corpse left to rot in the river, that's some lovely poo poo there. 
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I knew he was dead, I just never noticed that he was literally drawn floating down the river, nobody bothering to recover his body/see if he's alive or whatever. Maybe there's hope he'll come back later in the comic in, y'know, true comic book style but Mulligan seems pretty contemptuous of traditional comics so I guess he's really just floating down the river to fetch up on a log somewhere and rot
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Brought To You By posted:Does Max feel the irony of claiming that someone is going to have deal with not getting what they want when he's literally richy rich with parents who can cover up the fact that he has super powers? I want Cleaver to show up with Allison and explain how Max is being a pretentious baby. Then maybe cut him in half...maybe.
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Flesh Forge posted:I knew he was dead, I just never noticed that he was literally drawn floating down the river, nobody bothering to recover his body/see if he's alive or whatever. Maybe there's hope he'll come back later in the comic in, y'know, true comic book style but Mulligan seems pretty contemptuous of traditional comics so I guess he's really just floating down the river to fetch up on a log somewhere and rot I just like how that one panel looks out of context. "This guy is dead." "About time!"
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Oct 3, 2016 23:22
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Oct 3, 2016 23:23
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See, if this was about Alison's long slide into super villiany, I'd think it had really poor pacing but might end up being a neat story. It's not, though.
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Oct 4, 2016 10:03
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Mwahahahahah
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Oct 4, 2016 10:13
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Synthbuttrange posted:Mwahahahahah hmmmm...this strikes a particularly poor tone after the drawn out chapter about rape. EoRaptor posted:See, if this was about Alison's long slide into super villiany, I'd think it had really poor pacing but might end up being a neat story. It's not, though. Boy have I got some good news for you! That slide into super villainy? Looks like it won't be that long!
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Oct 4, 2016 10:40
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and then I made the rich libertarian shitbird share his wealth and everyone stood up and clapped e: Look at how chill she is!
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Oct 4, 2016 11:01
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"So then my superwoman analogue physically forces my Martin Shkreli analogue to further her goal of stopping rapists somehow. Then bam, publish that poo poo on the web!" -Hamhands McWriter.
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Mikl posted:"Do what I say or I'll snap your neck and dump your lifeless body in the middle of the Atlantic." Zerilan posted:
And here we go.
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