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The Vosgian Beast posted:On the off-chance this is like the TvTropes thread and there's some mentally unbalanced goon considering this: Jesus Christ, do not doxx St_Rev what is even wrong with you? So he's a professional That Guy You Know Who Thinks He's Really Deep When He Gets High
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# ? Oct 3, 2016 14:13 |
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ate all the Oreos posted:So he's a professional That Guy You Know Who Thinks He's Really Deep When He Gets High More like he thinks that he's really deep when he bounces his moronic ideas off of alt-right / NRx / far right idiots and they reciprocate in sucking his dick. Cf. Sister Sarah and Meaningness.
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# ? Oct 3, 2016 23:24 |
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I Killed GBS posted:i don't think rev is a nazi, i think he's just a profoundly sad and small man who is incapable of enjoying anything in life Also, the right is convinced that A) Hitler was really a leftist anyway because it says "socialism" right there in the name, and B) leftists think Hitler was worse than Stalin because progs don't really care about genocide, only about racism. (If they cared about genocide they couldn't be socialists, because Stalin murdered millions of people too and he was a socialist, therefore socialism is just as bad, QED.) Another fun alt-right thing is to wear shirts alluding to Pinochet as a dig at Che T-shirts. It was explained to me that "free helicopter rides" is alt-right signalling, referencing Pinochet's habit of dropping people out of helicopters to murder them. IIRC, he liked to do it to pregnant women. Hilarious!
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# ? Oct 3, 2016 23:25 |
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pookel posted:It's not that they're Nazis, it's that they're banal, shallow edgelords who don't see why everyone takes this Nazi business so seriously. I feel like "edgelord" would mean they're trying to offend when at this point, they're so far from most humans that they've lost sight of the way value judgements matter to the people making them that they have no idea why someone would not want to be friends with a dude who wants black people hung on lamp posts
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# ? Oct 3, 2016 23:31 |
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It's not so much "trying to offend" as that they're trying to prove that being offended is, in itself, an aggressive act of emotional manipulation. Their game is to be as grossly offensive as possible so that they can accuse you of censorship if you object. It's basically the geek social fallacy taken to the extreme.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 00:00 |
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Yeah I've never thought of "edgelords" as trying to offend others, more that they think that it makes them interesting and ~real~ to reject the moral compass they believe society (or their parents or whatever) thinks they should have. Like they're trying to offend a hypothetical person constructed of their subjective interpretation of how the world thinks they should act.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 00:30 |
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pookel posted:It's not so much "trying to offend" as that they're trying to prove that being offended is, in itself, an aggressive act of emotional manipulation. Their game is to be as grossly offensive as possible so that they can accuse you of censorship if you object. That said I still feel like they're trying to invite offense more than they actually are. I mean they do believe that left-wing normative judgement are an attempt at domination and manipulation, but they don't actually want people to come at them about this.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Yeah I've never thought of "edgelords" as trying to offend others, more that they think that it makes them interesting and ~real~ to reject the moral compass they believe society (or their parents or whatever) thinks they should have. Like they're trying to offend a hypothetical person constructed of their subjective interpretation of how the world thinks they should act. They have "figured it out" and the rest of us are sheep. My favorite DE thinker is Lovecraft. It took me, embarrassingly, 2 years to find him writing about "Western decadence." He was a shut-in for a lot of his life, a virgin (probably) until 34, and as everyone knows, a HUMONGOUS racist. As a mechanistic materialist, he didn't believe in the soul, and the hopeless, existential theme of his writing reminds me so much of some of these men. (Also "Product of his time" my loving rear end. I bet Poe wasn't a racist. Please don't tell me if you know I will find out one day anyway....)
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failing forward posted:They have "figured it out" and the rest of us are sheep. Pretty sure Poe was, in fact, a racist. http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/34372/edgar-allan-poes-true-horror-racism/
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failing forward posted:They have "figured it out" and the rest of us are sheep. Yo, if it makes you feel better, even his peers were like 'drat, dude' when it came to Lovecraft's racism. He did (maybe) start to rethink it at the end of his life, but it's hard to tell where he'd have ended up. If you haven't, look up the Cthulhu always swims Left and Gnon stuff to see a bunch of idiots missing the point about Lovecraft.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 01:00 |
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I'm halfway through A Confederacy of Dunces and I wish to thank this thread for making me mentally prepared for it.
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failing forward posted:(Also "Product of his time" my loving rear end. I bet Poe wasn't a racist. Please don't tell me if you know I will find out one day anyway....)
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Nessus posted:Poe was a Southern man from before the Civil War so I'm gonna go ahead and make an assumption. That said, if we throw out everyone who was racist in the past, we will find that history began approximately thirty or forty years ago. Poe was a huge racist, of course, but you can read 90% of his stories without running into anything racially troubling with the exception of Arthur Gordon Pym and The Gold Bug. With Lovecraft it's harder to not see incidental racism, or stuff that's clearly rooted in racism. Anyway I feel like this is a discussion that has been had five billion times and I don't feel like having it again.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 01:16 |
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BobHoward posted:Wanna click this, but I also really don't wanna. Because when I was a teenager I was convinced Starship Troopers was a Great Work, but now... and as interpreted by at-righters... Starship troopers is an amazing farce of what is current alt-right belief so you should be cool even if they don't get it
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 03:15 |
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pr0zac posted:Starship troopers is an amazing farce of what is current alt-right belief so you should be cool even if they don't get it He means the book, not the movie
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neonnoodle posted:I'm halfway through A Confederacy of Dunces and I wish to thank this thread for making me mentally prepared for it. I've been sitting on this forever, no idea where it came from. It looks 10-15 years old quote:A Confederacy of Hyoomans Syd Midnight has a new favorite as of 14:57 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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If anyone has ever done an Ignatius Riley twitter account, it must have sucked because thats a good idea
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Nessus posted:Poe was a Southern man from before the Civil War so I'm gonna go ahead and make an assumption. That said, if we throw out everyone who was racist in the past, we will find that history began approximately thirty or forty years ago. There were degrees of racism. I mean, Mark Twain was also a Southern man born before the Civil War, and he was leagues ahead of most of the Weird Tales crowd of the 1920s in terms of progressive views.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 15:02 |
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In the updated sequel to A Confederacy of Dunces, Ignatius runs a subreddit no one reads after getting kicked out of the dark enlightenment for fighting with PUAs, and Myrah runs a popular Tumblr SJ blog.
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 17:06 |
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he hasn't even seen the show has he
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 22:48 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I feel like "edgelord" would mean they're trying to offend when at this point, they're so far from most humans that they've lost sight of the way value judgements matter to the people making them that they have no idea why someone would not want to be friends with a dude who wants black people hung on lamp posts really wish you stopid libtards would stop projecting your racism. they dont hate blacks or think they're inferior at all they just, dont want to be around them is all cuz they bring down property values [insert crime statistics followed with scientific racism here] EDIT: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/783347230245736448 BornAPoorBlkChild has a new favorite as of 23:21 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Race Realists posted:really wish you stopid libtards would stop projecting your racism. they dont hate blacks or think they're inferior at all
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He means the book, not the movie Correct. I tend to forget there is a movie of it. At the time, when enough leaked about the script, I was all "how DARE they take so many liberties with Heinlein", so I never saw it. I should get around to watching it someday, these days I probably would enjoy Verhoeven's piss-take on the fascist themes in ST-the-book.
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Race Realists posted:really wish you stopid libtards would stop projecting your racism. they dont hate blacks or think they're inferior at all "I follow lots of women on Instagram" doesn't quite mean what you think it means, Elon.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 00:13 |
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BobHoward posted:Correct. I tend to forget there is a movie of it. At the time, when enough leaked about the script, I was all "how DARE they take so many liberties with Heinlein", so I never saw it. I should get around to watching it someday, these days I probably would enjoy Verhoeven's piss-take on the fascist themes in ST-the-book. When I was a teenager who had seen the movie and not the book, I heard nerds on the internet bitching about how they cut out all the awesome power armor and mini-nukes, so I went to go read the book. There is one chapter of power armor and mini-nukes, followed by a rant by someone's worst uncle who never gets invited to Thanksgiving anymore for what felt like five billion pages, though I'm sure you knew all this. In summary, watch the movie, never reread the book, it has Neil Patrick Harris as a space nazi
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 00:24 |
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Hey, The Red Pill documentary sucks! http://www.villagevoice.com/film/warning-you-cant-unsee-the-red-pill-the-documentary-about-a-filmmaker-who-learns-to-love-mras-9172459 But you knew that already. I'm still baffled at how anyone can interview Paul Elam and come away thinking the Men's Rights Movement is a good thing.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 06:45 |
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In response he followed one single woman
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 06:54 |
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I gotta admit spending $60 million of Musk's money to inadvertently make a really cool fireball shockwave was very worth it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 06:59 |
Mars colony in 2024. They gonna make it happen. Money solves everything.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 07:26 |
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I'm a big fan of space colonisation, but I'd have a lot more respect for Musk's talk about it if he was funding research on all the other much more generally important technical obstacles with the same vigor that he makes minor improvements to rocketry (is he? I haven't investigated because all I hear about him doing is minor improvements to rocketry wrapped in adventurous rhetoric). There's a reasonable argument that the romance of manned spaceflight is an advert for the space program in general even if manned spaceflight isn't yet very practical or important, but it loses its force a little when the rocket romantics have grown up and have billions of dollars to invest and want to waste it on Martian suicide missions.
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Peel posted:I'm a big fan of space colonisation, but I'd have a lot more respect for Musk's talk about it if he was funding research on all the other much more generally important technical obstacles with the same vigor that he makes minor improvements to rocketry (is he? I haven't investigated because all I hear about him doing is minor improvements to rocketry wrapped in adventurous rhetoric). At least he makes nice cars.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 14:00 |
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Never trust a man who gives interviews in a hot tub and believes he lives in a video game
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 14:05 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:When I was a teenager who had seen the movie and not the book, I heard nerds on the internet bitching about how they cut out all the awesome power armor and mini-nukes, so I went to go read the book. The movie was definitely worse for not having revolver style drop ships
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Pomp posted:The movie was definitely worse for not having revolver style drop ships Again, one chapter of that
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 14:13 |
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divabot posted:At least he makes nice cars. Are you kidding or have you not seen the UI the car uses for its center console tablet thing: Because when you think "luxury car" you think "UI designed in 2003 by a chinese knockoff cell phone manufacturer"
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The Vosgian Beast posted:When I was a teenager who had seen the movie and not the book, I heard nerds on the internet bitching about how they cut out all the awesome power armor and mini-nukes, so I went to go read the book. The movie had mini-nukes though, it was like one of the main plot points. Also yeah apparently Veerhoven took one look at the source material and was like "lol wow " and decided he was making a parody instead.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:When I was a teenager who had seen the movie and not the book, I heard nerds on the internet bitching about how they cut out all the awesome power armor and mini-nukes, so I went to go read the book. In its defense, Starship Troopers is pretty short so the 90% of it which is an extended rant isn't that long. And Heinlein is vastly more readable and entertaining while ranting than, say, Ayn Rand. These are pretty weak defenses aren't they.
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BobHoward posted:In its defense, Starship Troopers is pretty short so the 90% of it which is an extended rant isn't that long. And Heinlein is vastly more readable and entertaining while ranting than, say, Ayn Rand. Yes
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all the gibbering about space colonization seems sorta irrelevant to me given that most of the human race is going be scraped off the face of reality by climate change in a relatively short span of time. spending time and money figuring out a way to make habitable a barren rock rather than making an effort to preserve the place where the human race evolved, that seems like an extremely stupid way to go about things, but hey if I'm so smart why aren't I rich?
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