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Who will win the debate?
Tim Kaine
Mike Pence
Epic MRA President Bernie Porn
Bill Mitchell
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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
i mean this isnt quite as goofy as the time people were wringing their hands about the clear and present danger of the Rick Perry juggernaut rolling over Obama, but its still pretty goofy

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I lay on my bed, dazed with drugs and whiskey.

Mike Pence pulls up to my bed.

"Trump never happened. It will shock you how much anything he said never happened."

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747
Pence's voice made me incredibly mad and the substance of his arguments was not helping. He seems like a more nimble politician generally though. Kaine started out way too hyperactive and I think he fell a bit too easily back on the pre-set talking points instead of easing back and coming across with some authenticity to balance out Clinton's low favorable ratings. The whole debate struck me as kind of a wash, which is too bad since I lean blue.

I'm kind of curious what the overall impression was for others.

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008

Gum posted:

If you genuinely believed abortion was murder then you'd be a monster to not oppose it

Like most American Catholics Kaine probably doenst give a poo poo about birth control or abortion but feels he at least has to pretend to

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
The first half was pretty awful for Kaine. I was freaking. He eventually got settled in and said what needed to be said with a happy smile for the last half.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Philthy posted:

SOmeone tell me what Fox is saying, I can't stomach doing it myself.

They seemed pretty meh when I was briefly there. They seemed to realize Pence spent the entire time lying about things Trump has said and that's going to fall apart tomorrow. Like, even Tucker Carlson noted that.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

James Carville looks...less skeletal now?

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


"That Kaine guy seemed like a jackass and I would vote for the white haired guy... But this Trump guy he's talking about is running for president and is actually crazy! I have to vote for the jackass's candidate."

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Shageletic posted:

I lay on my bed, dazed with drugs and whiskey.

Mike Pence pulls up to my bed.

"Trump never happened. It will shock you how much anything he said never happened."

Greatest single line of Mad Men, no debate.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

paranoid randroid posted:

i mean this isnt quite as goofy as the time people were wringing their hands about the clear and present danger of the Rick Perry juggernaut rolling over Obama, but its still pretty goofy

Mark my words, that Scott Walker guy is someone to watch.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Brony Car posted:

Pence's voice made me incredibly mad and the substance of his arguments was not helping. He seems like a more nimble politician generally though. Kaine started out way too hyperactive and I think he fell a bit too easily back on the pre-set talking points instead of easing back and coming across with some authenticity to balance out Clinton's low favorable ratings. The whole debate struck me as kind of a wash, which is too bad since I lean blue.

I'm kind of curious what the overall impression was for others.


paranoid randroid posted:

all this debate did was really hammer home the fact that Clinton is actually really good at debates

AARO
Mar 9, 2005

by Lowtax
Anyone know where to find how many minutes of talk time each got?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/783500070025068544

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Eifert Posting posted:

It is the Catholic Dogma. It is said by literally every Catholic priest when they read the gospel. My Catholic High School taught it for multiple years and we had to learn it to take first communion and to be confirmed.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Terrorism and debt are well established white people problems so this isn't a surprise given who the media consists of

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

why exactly are people saying kaine looked bad? he looked like he was jovially hunting pence for sport

because he repeatedly talked over the first asian female debate moderator in debate history

it was definitely lovely and dumb but he spent the whole debate swinging and Americans love momentum. I think Kaine won, at least if you are looking at what Kaine was trying to do (attack Donald Trump, the man running for president)

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

paranoid randroid posted:

i mean this isnt quite as goofy as the time people were wringing their hands about the clear and present danger of the Rick Perry juggernaut rolling over Obama, but its still pretty goofy
In defense of those people, he had a really nice set of glasses.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Pence sold a lot of bullshit with a straight face. Kaine was correct in all his points, but delivered them in a scattershot fashion that didn't allow him to focus in on one single point at a time. Until the very end, when they basically reversed. My pundit level guess is a slight edge to Pence in the after debate polls, but probably pretty divided on party lines.

e: To be clear, by "reversed" I just mean in delivery style. Pence was just as full of poo poo.

Lord Hydronium has issued a correction as of 03:57 on Oct 5, 2016

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

i want it on TV or at least some sort of streaming site like twitch or periscope

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
went to cathoic high school didnt have to do poo poo cause i was "baptist"

i dont know which is wprse

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Basically this will not matter, it might cut the unnatural lead Clinton has, giving the worst people an excuse to vote for Trump. But really doesn't matter.

But that Frank Luntz focus group was gag inducing.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Grey Fox posted:

Mitt Romney left office in 2007 and got the nomination in 2012.

I don't think Pence will do that well. Think Ted Cruz-ish.

I could see Pence running in 2020 but I saw a xanaxed neurosurgeon and a pizza chain owner and a bunch of c-list establishment republicans run so it doesn't mean much ultimately. mitt romney is a good looking guy who was not on the ticket with a reality star before he ran for POTUS. Pence is going to work a farm in rural Indiana for the twilight of his life.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Fidel Castronaut posted:

nah kanye's music is cool and he is cool. he makes WWE heels look like lambs. it's a fun character and his character pisses off Serious Rockist Music Guys, which means he is doing God's work.

wtf is a rockist

is it those old guys that believe rock is god's one true genre

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Tatum Girlparts posted:

or you can believe that it is in your view but understand that your perspective is not the only one and the law of the land is that equal access to healthcare and privacy means even things you personally don't like are secured too?

Is that really all it would take for you to accept legalised murder?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm watching bottom of the ninth tied playoff baseball now because COME ON!

Could there be a greater juxtaposition? I guess overtime hockey and a state Senate debate on public access?

Zeta Taskforce
Jun 27, 2002

Grey Fox posted:

James Carville looks...less skeletal now?

He still looks like an alien though

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

wtf is a rockist

is it those old guys that believe rock is god's one true genre

yep

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Eifert Posting posted:

It is the Catholic Dogma. It is said by literally every Catholic priest when they read the gospel. My Catholic High School taught it for multiple years and we had to learn it to take first communion and to be confirmed.

lol stop

most Catholics espe Amwricna Catholics are folk rwligianta not scholastic religiants abd im standin by that

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Atrocious Joe posted:

wtf is a rockist

is it those old guys that believe rock is god's one true genre

yeah, dudes who worship "guitar gods" and think sampling is the worst and hip hop is shallow but led zeppelin talking about loving young groupies is cool.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Squizzle posted:

lol stop

most Catholics espe Amwricna Catholics are folk rwligianta not scholastic religiants abd im standin by that

its uh said that way in church every time

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Squizzle posted:

lol stop

most Catholics espe Amwricna Catholics are folk rwligianta not scholastic religiants abd im standin by that

I would be as drunk posting as you, but I actually got too angry and frustrated half-way through to drink.

hosed up but true.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/ChrisJansing/status/783495887356125184

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mirthless posted:

because he repeatedly talked over the first asian female debate moderator in debate history

it was definitely lovely and dumb but he spent the whole debate swinging and Americans love momentum. I think Kaine won, at least if you are looking at what Kaine was trying to do (attack Donald Trump, the man running for president)

Again doesn't matter, but its the number one rule in debates. Don't talk over the moderator. You will look rude, and Americans hate rude people (crude, that's a different story). Michaelangelo encapsolates both dialetics.

Kaine is an unremarkable politician though. He can't really pull off the attack dog thing. Biden is a master of that, managing to lay sick burns with a smile.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Baloogan posted:

its uh said that way in chvrch every time

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Baloogan posted:

its uh said that way in church every time

then ya do the little cross thingies for whatever reason

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I could see Pence running in 2020 but I saw a xanaxed neurosurgeon and a pizza chain owner and a bunch of c-list establishment republicans run so it doesn't mean much ultimately. mitt romney is a good looking guy who was not on the ticket with a reality star before he ran for POTUS. Pence is going to work a farm in rural Indiana for the twilight of his life.
I guess it'll come down to how bad Pence wants to live off of wingnut welfare.

AbysmalPeptoBismol
Feb 5, 2016

Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea!

Gum posted:

Is that really all it would take for you to accept legalised murder?

Yo go get aborted

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/783500826065113088

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

SpRahl posted:

Like most American Catholics Kaine probably doenst give a poo poo about birth control or abortion but feels he at least has to pretend to

Yeah, that's my take on it. I also feel like even most hardcore prolifers don't really believe the murder argument, because holy poo poo hundreds of thousands of innocent people are being murdered and all you're doing is waving a sign?

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Fidel Castronaut posted:

yeah, dudes who worship "guitar gods" and think sampling is the worst and hip hop is shallow but led zeppelin talking about loving young groupies is cool.

*kicks in the door* Yngwie Malmsteen has more talent in his little finger than five Snoopy Snoop Dogs or Icey Teas, and you can take that to the bank!

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