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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
That's taunting fate a bit, using the same hangers as the R101. (which you can read more about in Nebakenezzer's excellent posts in this thread)

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Free Market Mambo
Jul 26, 2010

by Lowtax
I like the foreshadowing.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Zev
Apr 3, 2009
Had a 4 hour review of nfpa 70e today. Never going in an mcc room again. I really don't want to be qualified for anything electrical.

baram.
Oct 23, 2007

smooth.



who is more likely to get a visit from OSHA: the dudesons or the jackass crew?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

some guy on Reddit posted:

Woke up with that feeling of ugh I don't wanna go to work. I'ma call in. Nah better not this is the short week I gotta go. So I got up and went to work against my will.

I work as an assistant mechanic in an industrial setting and sometimes required to work on a 100 ton press. My line lead and I were working on said press clearing a material jam and were almost finished, when we both noticed some debris in the die (dye maybe idk). He used an air nozzle in an attempt to blow out the debris, he was unsuccessful as I could still see it. (Insert gently caress up here) I reached my hand into the press to show him where the debris was. He never fires this thing without calling clear or fire in the hole. Well today he did. He pushed the buttons, it came down, my hand was still there. Initially there was no pain, more of a super wtf moment. Luckily when I yelled at him he released the buttons and it stopped before completing it's cycle and he was able to reverse the press. Got my hand out and just held it til I got to ER. Had to have my left ring finger removed. It sucks. But it could've been a whole lot worse, it could have been my entire hand.

For those wanting to see my hand now. http://imgur.com/KVgL9ob This happened Oct 2 2016 http://imgur.com/SlW61yY

Second picture is a bandaged hand; first picture is a mangled hand.

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib

Pingiivi posted:

Here's another angle:



Yeah, that would explain it. Camouflaged hangars.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Zev posted:

Had a 4 hour review of nfpa 70e today. Never going in an mcc room again. I really don't want to be qualified for anything electrical.

Are you talking about low or medium voltage MCCs? (480 or 600 is low, 4160 is medium).

I think there is a cheat-sheet section in 70e that gives basic PPE levels for doing different types of work on different equipment and voltages. Not sure if it considered stuff like available fault current and size of upstream sources. It's only a last-resort guide if you don't have arc flash levels calculated.

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Oct 6, 2016

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Sagebrush posted:

kreosan are a pair of appliance repair guys whose home village is in a "contested zone" of Ukraine/Crimea. Most of the population evacuated when the shells started landing, but they stuck around and started stealing people's electricity to power their microwave oven experiments.

In some of their videos they suddenly go and hide in the basement and you can hear rockets whistling by overhead.

It's about as nihilistically :ussr: as it gets

specifically, they live in the luhansk people's republic. they got invited to a russian youtuber's conference in moscow but they have no money because they're unemployed because they live in a literal war zone. so what do you do? hitchhike!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8nmlvsJJnM

Zev
Apr 3, 2009

Three-Phase posted:

Are you talking about low or medium voltage MCCs? (480 or 600 is low, 4160 is medium).

I think there is a cheat-sheet section in 70e that gives basic PPE levels for doing different types of work on different equipment and voltages. Not sure if it considered stuff like available fault current and size of upstream sources. It's only a last-resort guide if you don't have arc flash levels calculated.

We have a lot of 480 and go up to 2300. They are sometimes in the same room. I don't know that we have anything higher.

I'm a mechanical guy so it gets out of my wheelhouse real quick. I do know that we have 4 turbine generators and a decent tie line that we pull from all the time, if that helps.

We have done an arc flash study and are in the process of getting new stickers on all the buckets.

The biggest change is that only qualified electricians will be able to throw breakers from now on. It has been the case that any operator or mechanic could throw one and put a lock on it.

Also no more category 0. Which is a good thing because it was giving me a false sense of security when I was looking at the lineups.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Oh wow, one of our technicians who has a form of electrician licence (not sure) was tasked today to go join the merry OSHA clowns down at the gas facility to tag and test all appliances etc. He questioned that his licence only allows him to do X type of gear (I have no idea the specifics, just over heard the conversation). It went something like:

Boss: Go tag and test all the things over at gas facility 1!
Tech: What equipment am I testing?
Boss: *lists a heap of stuff*
Tech: Hmm, I can't do A, B and C devices. Also that is a hazardous zone that I cannot enter without further training and safety inductions.
Boss: You'll be right mate, who is gonna know?
Tech: Well with each tag having my licence number on it, and the fact that the governing body is doing a site wide inspection and this is the reason for the testing, they will know.
Boss: DO IT!
Tech: OK

Tech wanders off and an hour returns and just says 'NO'

Good tech, you get a treat. Of course the office staff all started a bitch storm about him for slacking off and being lazy.

Zev posted:

We have done an arc flash study and are in the process of getting new stickers on all the buckets.

A few years ago I was developing a training package video for a mine on Arc Flash situations. drat the suits we have to wear here are heavy as gently caress. Also screw the lead electrician for tripping some switches on purpose as I was in the breaker room doing some establishing shots. The noise of the breakers nearly made me poo poo myself.

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Oct 6, 2016

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Humphreys posted:

Good tech, you get a treat. Of course the office staff all started a bitch storm about him for slacking off and being lazy.


Christ. If I worked legal for that company I would be walking around that office with a (OSHA-approved) mallet.

It's like people don't understand what "liability" is. Being technically in the wrong is more than sufficient to lose a lawsuit.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Nice piece of fish posted:

Christ. If I worked legal for that company I would be walking around that office with a (OSHA-approved) mallet.

It's like people don't understand what "liability" is. Being technically in the wrong is more than sufficient to lose a lawsuit.

Yeah the office staff including owners daughter spend most of their day bitching about everyone else who isn't in earshot. Any stuff up or delay is made into a form of public shaming. I know at least 3 techs are going to quit over their games (sending techs on jobs they aren't qualified for and crying to daddy that they won't do their job).

I drunkenly txted my manager on saturday that I was on the verge of quitting this shithole. His reply? "You and be both mate, see you tuesday."

Remember, our ownership/management of the gas facility was stripped off the owner by the government. We just do the labour force contract now. This changes NOTHING as it's the same idiots in the same role they had before. Just more red tape they can gently caress with.

I mentioned in another thread that I checked the 'killzone' radius if poo poo hits the fan at that facility, and my home is just on the border of obliterated and recoverable body.

EDIT: I used to develop our version of OSHA videos for the mining industry. It sure is fun having the rules ingrained into my subconscious.

EDIT to that edit: That also included being sent into 3rd world countries under a tourist visa while all our film gear was smuggled in via the client company freight ship just to save a few bucks on 'entertainment visa' vs 'tourist visa'

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Oct 6, 2016

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

If they're under increased supervision, wouldn't reporting that poo poo attract an unending shitstream? Why he gently caress risk it?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


evil_bunnY posted:

If they're under increased supervision, wouldn't reporting that poo poo attract an unending shitstream? Why he gently caress risk it?

Jokes on you/us! The governing body hired the owners sister in law to run the office as an offical employee, not through our labour hire arrangement! The shitstorm runs deep.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Never underestimate the lack of fucks given for safety by office folk.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Humphreys posted:

Jokes on you/us! The governing body hired the owners sister in law to run the office as an offical employee, not through our labour hire arrangement! The shitstorm runs deep.
LMAO. Sounds like a call to the newspaper/ombudsman is in order.

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers
Hong Kong ~1950, but OSHA didn't exist then so it's coo

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
I really thought that was bamboo at first

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

moist turtleneck posted:

I really thought that was bamboo at first

It isn't?

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
It's just pipes with a lot of welds

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Pretty sure that's bamboo, it's still done that way on the mainland even.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
No the Chinese didn't have ships that long back then so they sent little pipe sections that they had to weld together

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

nomad2020 posted:

Pretty sure that's bamboo, it's still done that way on the mainland even.

Still done that way in Hong Kong too.

the poles are tied together with green plastic string and green netting as safety nets



Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

moist turtleneck posted:

I really thought that was bamboo at first
It is. Bamboo scaffolding is still commonly used in asia.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Those of you who think Football (soccer) is a game for wimps better check this out:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-37571814

This hero severed his finger after trying to catch a football. It is DANGEROUS as gently caress!

THat's why I don't do sports.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
You can't weld pieces of bamboo together it'll burn

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Collateral Damage posted:

It is. Bamboo scaffolding is still commonly used in asia.

I think saying "Asia" here is overly broad and actually pretty insensitive.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

I think saying "Asia" here is overly broad and actually pretty insensitive.

Well it's also done in the Philippines from first hand anecdotal experience.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



A Buff Gay Dude posted:

I think saying "Asia" here is overly broad and actually pretty insensitive.

Lol - I think you are misfiring

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

KoRMaK posted:

Lol - I think you are misfiring

How so? Kinda a broad generalization there?

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

How safe is it to take apart an old 3-4-storey building by poking it with a raised digger's scoop in twilight with no lights on site and in overcast weather?

pookerbug
Jan 21, 2006

the vitreous humourist

moist turtleneck posted:

You can't weld pieces of bamboo together it'll burn

Is this a Ken M. alt?

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

moist turtleneck posted:

You can't weld pieces of bamboo together it'll burn

What if you weld them under water?

The Pi dude
Oct 19, 2013
Buglord

Ak Gara posted:

What if you weld them under water?

Underwater you have to weave them.

John Denver Hoxha
May 31, 2014

What a persistent nightmare!
....but enough about my posts

The Pi dude posted:

Underwater you have to weave them.
Yeah, dad, tell me how useless this degree with an underwater basket weaving major is NOW....

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.
Funny thing, wood welding via friction is actually a thing! I don't know if I would trust it to hold up, though.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Ak Gara posted:

Funny thing, wood welding via friction is actually a thing! I don't know if I would trust it to hold up, though.

You can't just not post this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0k04hjdYuQ

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Ak Gara posted:

Funny thing, wood welding via friction is actually a thing! I don't know if I would trust it to hold up, though.

What's going on is that the surface fibers are breaking apart and tangling together, and the heat buildup melts the lignin. As it cools the lignin resolidifies so you've basically got an adhesive matrix surrounding a tangle of fibers. It's apparently good enough for interior fittings but can't really handle environmental exposure.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Speaking of materials I know Al/Fe bar exists and whenever I've asked old farts how it's made they say "EXPLODING" but no-one has actually been able to tell me what, in practical terms, exploding Fe and Al together to create a solid piece means.

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