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How is normal mode Sophia? I haven't even tried that yet.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:You're not wrong! This not only does exactly what I wanted it to, it also looks like poo poo. I literally thought it did not work until I hit ctrl-A to see the numbers were actually there just impossible for me to see Huh. I have no idea why THAT would happen. e: also, quote:Can probably just make the button say "don't shuffle until seven/can't shuffle with eight" and call it a day. Wish granted! This should be live in a minute or two. VHGS fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Lemon-Lime posted:Except for elves. Around elves watch yourselves.
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Oct 7, 2016 20:57
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Mordiceius posted:How is normal mode Sophia? I haven't even tried that yet. Good fun and pretty easy. Easy aoe dodges and the adds are manageable. The main mechanic just requires you to able to count and move, and not run off the edge when main tanking like I do every other time.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:05
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Thundarr posted:The books are listed as requiring 2nd Lt rank to buy, just like the new jackets and hats. So good luck doing things the hard way first! This is good to know.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:06
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SettingSun posted:Good fun and pretty easy. Easy aoe dodges and the adds are manageable. The main mechanic just requires you to able to count and move, and not run off the edge when main tanking like I do every other time. Ah. Not too crazy as a healer?
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Oct 7, 2016 21:14
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NOT AN OF POST: I really wish I could work out a good flow with cleric stance. I never feel like I have ever since I started playing this game over two years ago, worked out a comfortable way to use cleric stance in combat that allows me to easily switch between DPSing and healing. Right now, I have all my heals on bar 1 and cleric stance and my DPS abilities on bar 2. When just soloing about, I just swap bar 1 into bar 2, so i can use my 1-10 keybinds for DPSing. But that''s no good when it comes to dungeons as I can't react fast enough. I don't want to keybind my DPS abilities to CTRL + # because I hate using two button keybinds. This leaves me mostly just clicking abilities while I'm DPSing, which then leaves me unable to quickly react to movement as much. I'm thinking of dedicating 1-5 to heals and 6-10 to DPS abilities so they're all easy one button keybinds. I really wish the #1 hotbar worked like WoW's rogue/druid stealth hotbar. When you swap into cleric stance, it automatically swaps to another hotbar. I know you can do this through macros, but that method is flawed and can gently caress you. I also wish that every time you casted a heal, you automatically dropped cleric stance. The best thing 4.0 could bring is abolishing cleric stance and just letting WHM/SCH/AST dps abilities function off mind.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:24
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I have a stupid question. How do you heal? Physically how do you hit the keybinds, I mean. Like, don't you find yourself wanting more than ten buttons period, even if you're literally never swapping into DPS mode? Admittedly, I've never played healer very intensively, but ten buttons is so few.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:30
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VHGS posted:Huh. I have no idea why THAT would happen.  If I missed  then uh, joke's on me. But yeah. Just change the font or the background 
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Oct 7, 2016 21:31
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i mean, i don't understand how you could find reaching across for 6 to be easier than just hitting ctl-2, but different strokes, i suppose the best advice i can give you in that case is to aggressively cannibalize other keybinds--you need wasd to move around, but you can unbind q, e, z, x, c, r, f, v,~ at the minimum and put those onto other skills. also, if you refuse to use modifier keys, you can just put abilities onto those keys too. what works for me is to put cleric stance on the middle mouse button, which means i can always hit the command regardless of what else i'm doing on the keyboard. if i was learning scholar again from scratch today, my binds might look something like this:
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Oct 7, 2016 21:35
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Mordiceius posted:Ah. Not too crazy as a healer?  Mordiceius posted:NOT AN OF POST: One of those MMO mice with the 1 through = buttons under the thumb is worth its weight in gold for things like this. On all three healers I have main healing abilities on 1-6, DPS abilities on 7-=, short cooldowns on Ctrl 1-=, Cleric Stance on shift-1, and "oh gently caress" level cooldowns on Shift 2-=. Thanks to the mouse I can reach them all quickly and instinctively after practice, no bar swaps necessary. But yeah I wouldn't be sad either to see Cleric Stance go away
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Oct 7, 2016 21:40
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Guys, Mordiceius has been bitching about dpsing as a healer in this thread since it's inception. He's kind of a lost cause. But to add content, if you really can't do ctrl+ buttons, then mix and match heal and DPS spells into 1-5 like I do. #1 on all of my healing classes is my spamming DPS spell (stone 3 / broil / malefic 2), and #2 is always my basic heal spell (cure / physick / benefic).
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okay, you could hypothetically set up a keybind system for sch without modifiers; here's a completely contrived example but it would probably work: middle mouse: cleric stance mouse rockers: swiftcast, lustrate 1-5: bio2 / miasma / bio / aero / shadowflare q: aetherflow e: physick r: adlo z: energy drain x: bane c: sacred soil tab: deployment tactics `: move fairy caps lock: broil shift: emergency tactics control: dissipation alt: sprint f: eye for an eye v: virus Reiterpallasch fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Oct 7, 2016 21:41
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poo poo, i missed rouse and sustain uhhh put fairy stuff on f1-f4?
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Oct 7, 2016 21:43
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I just don't think Cleric Stance is a fun ability that adds much to gameplay. How many times do you all bitch about "Honest Healers"? I'm not one of those and I [i[do[/i] DPS in dungeons/raids (although I know I'm not the most efficient at it). But getting rid of Cleric Stance and letting healers just cast everything based off Mind would literally make everyone's life better. Cleric Stance makes things less fun, not more. Stance Dancing should be a thing of the past.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:44
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I love pushing a huge number of buttons all day.
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Oct 7, 2016 21:47
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I have a stupid question. How do you heal? Physically how do you hit the keybinds, I mean. I have all my heals on like 1-8 or however it shakes up (don't remember the exact numbers). I think I have card abilities on 9 to =. Most of my long cooldown abilities are on bar 3, and I'll just click them when relevant. My DPS abilities are on bar 2. If we're at a point in the fight/dungeon/whatever where there is a lot of downtime, I just drop hotbar 2 ontop of 1 and use keybinds for abilities. if I need to quickly be switching betweens heals/dpsing, I'll just use keybinds for my heals and click the DPS abilities.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:
Oh, I see now. The text is green there, but it has an outline/shadow. I guess your browser draws it kind of wonky and it overlaps the text, making it look mostly black. It seems visible without it, so I'll just remove the border entirely.
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I fuckin' love pushing the buttons to do the abilities, and I use my cooldowns all day just so I can hit the button and watch a thing happen.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I love pushing a huge number of buttons all day. If all 4.0 does is add more abilities without reducing what we have, I will legitimately enjoy the game far less. Most classes have somewhere between 30-35 abilities when you add in cross class skills. Granted, with many classes, a good 5 or so abilities are never used. But for the most part, most classes use majority of their skills frequently. This is my personal preference, but I would love it if no class had more than 15 or so abilities at any time (before cross class abilities). I feel like when you're getting beyond 20 or 25 abilities, you're just adding complexity for complexities sake and I personally do not find it as fun.
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cleric stance is interesting because of the opportunity cost involved--it makes the healer look ahead ~5s into the fight to confirm that it's ok to dps. it promotes proactive play instead of reactive. square's made a very conscious design decision that you can enter cs at any time but you can't leave it until you've been in it for ~5s. it's interesting. i say this as a person who's cast more 400 hp adlos than i really want to admit to.
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In fact since I'm bored let me see if I can remember my binds for AST off the top of my head 1-=: Benefic, Benefic II, Aspected Benefic, Helios, Aspected Helios, Essential Dignity, Malefic II, Combust, Combust II, Aero, Gravity, Sprint Ctrl: Draw, Spread, Royal Road, Luminiferous Aether, uh esuna??, Synastry, that single target buff extender, Lightspeed, Collective Unconscious, Celestial Opposition, Blizzard II, Protect Shift: CS, Shuffle, card-cancel macro, swiftcast, resurrect, that one attack that causes Heavy, Malefic, GOING HAM CHAT MACRO (most important button), Diurnal Stance, Nocturnal Stance, Limit Break So not remotely as clearly or cleanly organized as I thought but gently caress it muscle memory takes care of it
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Mordiceius posted:If all 4.0 does is add more abilities without reducing what we have, I will legitimately enjoy the game far less.
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a summoner player after my own heart
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Reiterpallasch posted:a summoner player after my own heart
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So I picked the class that never has to do any.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I don't even give a poo poo about what abilities I use in what order, I just like to see the numbers happen when I push the thing and it sparkles and makes the sounds.
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Oct 7, 2016 22:02
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please don't black mage is arguably the game's worst class about "cast these spells in a specific order or else you'll lose enochian and your vr helmet will fry your brain and you'll die irl"
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Oct 7, 2016 22:04
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Ninja is probably the easiest dps to build for, since their skillspeed is already taken care of by Huton? Like it's apparently really bad to have super high SS unlike the other melee classes?
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I keep forgetting Palce of the Dead exists, atleast its getting a lot of traffic on Adamantoise
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Mordiceius posted:NOT AN OF POST: I was thinking yesterday about tank stances. They're mostly important because in 8-24 man content, you're gonna have one main tank and 1+ off tanks, and that one person is going to need to be able to wrest hate from everyone around them. Cleric stance doesn't work the same way though, and yeah, I think it's something that should be fixed. I would say remove it from the game and just have all abilities operate on MND instead of having Cleric Stance around to switch MND values to INT. I'm open to ideas on why this would be a bad thing, but right now it seems like Cleric Stance just acts as an artifical gate to switch on and off, which just limits newer players and many pick-ups.
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Personally I hate having a million buttons to press because I guarantee you I will forget about all but the top six most commonly used and I will be the laughingstock of the team.
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Oct 7, 2016 22:14
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Whats the general streotype for Au Ra players? F:Anime M: Chaulk white skin: Vampirewannabe Black skin with bonus red highlights:Demonwannabe Me: 8ft tall Vegeta
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The Grimace posted:I'm open to ideas on why this would be a bad thing, but right now it seems like Cleric Stance just acts as an artifical gate to switch on and off, which just limits newer players and many pick-ups. That's my thought on it all. It doesn't feel like Cleric Stance makes more healers dps, it feels like it works as pointless gate to stop new and less skilled people from dpsing
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Oct 7, 2016 22:23
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Unless a game is like WoW currently is with some classes having like 4 buttons to press I don't understand anyone calling for "more buttons!! more abilities!!" when FFXIV already has some ability bloat.
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WoL is clearly a Seawolf.  Ryanbomber posted:The Rising Stones is just as complicated of a sub-area and that doesn't stop Mor Dhona from having an Aetherlyte. The Mor Dhona isn't under the Syndicate's control. That's one of the major reasons the Scions leave and head there. Eopia posted:Had a chance at 3 lines but I didn't even get two. I think I'm going to end up hating the rng o Wondrous Tails. My WT at 7 marks: XOOO OOOO XXXX My WT at 9 marks: XOOO OOOO OXXX OXXX At least I had one line. That Demimateria though... 
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Oct 7, 2016 22:25
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4.0 should cut the amount of abilities we have in half and then give us 4 new abilities.
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UHD posted:Personally I hate having a million buttons to press because I guarantee you I will forget about all but the top six most commonly used and I will be the laughingstock of the team. This is me too. I don't know how often I get halfway through the final boss of a dungeon and remember "oh yeah I have virus/e4e/enkindle" and mash all of them pretending I was doing so from the beginning. 
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Oct 7, 2016 22:26
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The Grimace posted:I was thinking yesterday about tank stances. They're mostly important because in 8-24 man content, you're gonna have one main tank and 1+ off tanks, and that one person is going to need to be able to wrest hate from everyone around them. People who come from WoW can probably point to specific examples of this, but I do believe it's possible to "over-streamline" a class. Someone above already pointed out that Cleric Stance forces healers to take a more proactively approach to identifying safe times to dps versus times where your tank/party will NEED you to be at full healing capacity. Maybe stance dancing isn't the most ideal way to accomplish this, but from playing all three healers to 60 I can say it's a lot more engaging than "click 1 to heal ally, 2 to boom enemy."
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Mordiceius posted:4.0 should cut the amount of abilities we have in half and then give us 4 new abilities. You still wouldn't be able to DPS as a healer. Sinners Sandwich posted:I keep forgetting Palce of the Dead exists, atleast its getting a lot of traffic on Adamantoise Please be excited for the same thing but 4 times longer, coming in 3 weeks.
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