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TheWeepingHorse
Nov 20, 2009

Slovenia is a fascinating place. The Soèa really is a brilliant emerald color, and the Pot Miru is legit haunting.

Fun Tito fact: he had a dog named Tigger, a great big wolfhound that he had captured from a German officer.

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Greatbacon posted:

So I had the opportunity to visit Slovenia with some friends who were born and raised there who helped show me around the country.

Did you meet Slavoj Zizek?

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

Rutibex posted:

Did you meet Slavoj Zizek?

Man I wish.

I did get to talk about American politics around a kitchen table, explain the caucus process to foreigners, and listen to someone describe how Drumpf was a better candidate because he would stop the immigrant problem in Europe though!

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Greatbacon posted:

Man I wish.

I did get to talk about American politics around a kitchen table, explain the caucus process to foreigners, and listen to someone describe how Drumpf was a better candidate because he would stop the immigrant problem in Europe though!

Send all the Polish women to Trump towers?

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

Chichevache posted:

Send all the Polish women to Drumpf towers?

Nah, that's the British. This guy was talking about how Hillary was going to send more American troops to the middle east and create more Syrian refugees, while Drumpf would keep the troops home and let the middle east stabalize, or something to that effect.

This was back in June, before Drumpf admitted he would use nukes because he would have them.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
In the late 18th century all the London hipsters were looking down their noses at people and saying the word "quoz," and because all we have to go on about it is the equivalent of articles about memes in the New York Times Style Section, we no longer have any idea what the joke was

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Felix Salten, the Austrian author who gave us Bambi also anonymously published a story in 1906 titled Josefine Mutzenbacher, a pseudo-autobiographical novel purportedly by a Viennese prostitute in which the narrator recounts in great detail how she first started having and loving sex at 5 years old. With her brother :yikes: aside from being written incest CP, it's also a fascinating look into life as the child of poor workers at the fringes of Viennese society in around 1900, though that prooobably wasn't what Salten had in mind when he wrote it.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



InediblePenguin posted:

In the late 18th century all the London hipsters were looking down their noses at people and saying the word "quoz," and because all we have to go on about it is the equivalent of articles about memes in the New York Times Style Section, we no longer have any idea what the joke was

There's an 18th century manuscript in the Danish Royal Library in Copenhagen from a group calling themselves Det elphenbeenske Societet (The Ivory Society). It's a numbered list of about 400 unmarried women of the bourgeoisie, and lists such candid information as whether any dowry or inheritance could be counted upon, their looks & temper, &c.

The compiler of the register is one Hans Barhow, son of a Norwegian priest(!). To my knowledge, nothing else related to the society has been found, in particular it is unknown who were the members. Some historians conclude that Barhow simply created & used the register personally to aid his sexual conquests.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Snapchat A Titty posted:

There's an 18th century manuscript in the Danish Royal Library in Copenhagen from a group calling themselves Det elphenbeenske Societet (The Ivory Society). It's a numbered list of about 400 unmarried women of the bourgeoisie, and lists such candid information as whether any dowry or inheritance could be counted upon, their looks & temper, &c.

The compiler of the register is one Hans Barhow, son of a Norwegian priest(!). To my knowledge, nothing else related to the society has been found, in particular it is unknown who were the members. Some historians conclude that Barhow simply created & used the register personally to aid his sexual conquests.

And that group's name is a reference to the Order of the Elephant, Denmark's highest chivalric order.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Hogge Wild posted:

And that group's name is a reference to the Order of the Elephant, Denmark's highest chivalric order.

Yeah that's seems pretty likely. I've also considered that it may be in reference to "ivory skin", as pale women were considered beautiful at the time.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Snapchat A Titty posted:

There's an 18th century manuscript in the Danish Royal Library in Copenhagen from a group calling themselves Det elphenbeenske Societet (The Ivory Society). It's a numbered list of about 400 unmarried women of the bourgeoisie, and lists such candid information as whether any dowry or inheritance could be counted upon, their looks & temper, &c.

The compiler of the register is one Hans Barhow, son of a Norwegian priest(!). To my knowledge, nothing else related to the society has been found, in particular it is unknown who were the members. Some historians conclude that Barhow simply created & used the register personally to aid his sexual conquests.

So nothing has changed. There's been an uproar in the media here in the Netherlands lately because some (boys only) frat published a list of supposedly easy-to-get sluts girl students.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




In 1824 Jean-François Champollion found a papyrus that made him exclaim "an image of monstrous obscenity that gave me a really strange impression about Egyptian wisdom and composure." What he had found was Papyrus 55001 (or the Turin Erotic Papyrus) which was either really high class porn (considering that it wouldn't have been cheap to make) or a really clever satire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Erotic_Papyrus

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Alhazred posted:

In 1824 Jean-François Champollion found a papyrus that made him exclaim "an image of monstrous obscenity that gave me a really strange impression about Egyptian wisdom and composure." What he had found was Papyrus 55001 (or the Turin Erotic Papyrus) which was either really high class porn (considering that it wouldn't have been cheap to make) or a really clever satire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Erotic_Papyrus

How could you post this and not post the reconstruction? I like the panel where hes loving her on a chariot, drinking a beer:
:nws:http://i.imgur.com/G4amTFS.jpg

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Haha, check out ancient Egyptian dude sucking his own dick:

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/religion/amen.htm

WillieWestwood
Jun 23, 2004

Happy Thanksgiving!

Snapchat A Titty posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVRaW3NzfnU&t=27s

I love this song, but the lyrics are completely impenetrable to me lol. To me it sounds like people pretending to speak French :o:.

This might help you. :)

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



InediblePenguin posted:

In the late 18th century all the London hipsters were looking down their noses at people and saying the word "quoz," and because all we have to go on about it is the equivalent of articles about memes in the New York Times Style Section, we no longer have any idea what the joke was

I remembered this & looked this up and it's pretty much the fuggedaboutit scene from Donnie Brasco:

quote:

London is peculiarly fertile in this sort of phrases, which spring up suddenly, no one knows exactly in what spot, and pervade the whole population in a few hours, no one knows how. Many years ago the favourite phrase (for, though but a monosyllable, it was a phrase in itself) was QUOZ. This odd word took the fancy of the multitude in an extraordinary degree, and very soon acquired an almost boundless meaning. When vulgar wit wished to mark its incredulity and raise a laugh at the same time, there was no resource so sure as this popular piece of slang. When a man was asked a favour which he did not choose to grant, he marked his sense of the suitor's unparalleled presumption by exclaiming Quoz! When a mischievous urchin wished to annoy a passenger, and create mirth for his chums, he looked him in the face, and cried out Quoz! and the exclamation never failed in its object. When a disputant was desirous of throwing a doubt upon the veracity of his opponent, and getting summarily rid of an argument which he could not overturn, he uttered the word Quoz, with a contemptuous curl of his lip and an impatient shrug of his shoulders. The universal monosyllable conveyed all his meaning, and not only told his opponent that he lied, but that he erred egregiously if he thought that any one was such a nincompoop as to believe him. Every alehouse resounded with Quoz; every street corner was noisy with it, and every wall for miles around was chalked with it.

Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Sometimes it just means quoz.

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice
Quoz: See: :wom:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Came across this at the archives the other day. It's a 1526 legal document, I guess the ink was poisonous to whatever was eating the paper? Maybe contained lead?


Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Snapchat A Titty posted:

Came across this at the archives the other day. It's a 1526 legal document, I guess the ink was poisonous to whatever was eating the paper? Maybe contained lead?




Neat. Any idea what the document says?

Edit: Also wait, you work at a "the archives"? Tell me literally everything about that.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I don't work there, I just show up a lot to do my own genealogy stuff, & check out some cool random things once in a while. It'd be cool to do as a day job though!

It's in Danish, as far as I can read it starts "Vii Jens Anderß mett guds nadhi biscop udj Otthense helse eder alle Sandemænds [...]" which means "We, Jens Anders[-son] by Gods grace bishop in Odense greet all men of truth [...]"

The folder it was in said it's part of a negotiation of the application of the Jyske Lov legal code, book 2 chapter 21 which is about something as boring as how to handle disputes about the borders between neighboring fields.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Snapchat A Titty posted:

I don't work there, I just show up a lot to do my own genealogy stuff, & check out some cool random things once in a while. It'd be cool to do as a day job though!

It's in Danish, as far as I can read it starts "Vii Jens Anderß mett guds nadhi biscop udj Otthense helse eder alle Sandemænds [...]" which means "We, Jens Anders[-son] by Gods grace bishop in Odense greet all men of truth [...]"

The folder it was in said it's part of a negotiation of the application of the Jyske Lov legal code, book 2 chapter 21 which is about something as boring as how to handle disputes about the borders between neighboring fields.

Well if it's anything like how the english handled it, the solution is "build millions of tiny walls for hikers to trip over a few hundred years later"

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Well if it's anything like how the english handled it, the solution is "build millions of tiny walls for hikers to trip over a few hundred years later"

You don't see a lot of those in Denmark, though there are some. I guess part of is that only the big land owners really needed them. I think village fields were communally maintained by the residents (though owned in portions of varying size), and was reorganized during several phases in the 1700s ("udskiftningen") where the village land was divided up between the farms that were then moved out from the village to the fields.

So a lot of the old field borders were moved around. You'll see tree lines & stuff in the borders though.

Also this is the bishop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Andersen_Beldenak

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



lol they just found Tollund Man's toe, it's been missing since the 1950s. Apparently one of the conservators cut it off and walked around with it in his pocket. After he & his wife died, their daughter found it in a toolbox.


Google Translate of article

Pic of Tollund Man

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Snapchat A Titty posted:

lol they just found Tollund Man's toe, it's been missing since the 1950s. Apparently one of the conservators cut it off and walked around with it in his pocket. After he & his wife died, a daughter found it in a toolbox.


Google Translate of article

Pic of Tollund Man


That's not good conservatorship at all. :colbert:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Yeah seriously. Article says he had all kinds of stuff just lying around at home when they were working on it.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Snapchat A Titty posted:

lol they just found Tollund Man's toe, it's been missing since the 1950s.


So was it in the tiny novelty chicken basket that whole time?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



The image caption says he "managed to conserve it in a way that he himself called quite particular", which could very well refer to the chicken basket :shrug:

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Snapchat A Titty posted:

The image caption says he "managed to conserve it in a way that he himself called quite particular", which could very well refer to the chicken basket :shrug:

All you really need to do to conserve a body that's already been mummified is keep it dry. Mummified bodies are only really vulnerable to fungi, as all of the usual stuff that decomposes human corpses simply can't survive in the flesh. The chicken basket, stored in a cool,dry place, is a great place to keep your two thousand year old, carbonized toe.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

PYF historical fun fact: a great place to keep your 2000-year-old carbonized toe

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

queserasera posted:

PYF historical fun fact: chicken baskets; it's called conservation, folks

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

Snapchat A Titty posted:

Came across this at the archives the other day. It's a 1526 legal document, I guess the ink was poisonous to whatever was eating the paper? Maybe contained lead?




More likely it wasn't stored properly. Most paper contains acids of some kind. If they're kept in acid free (archival) paper,. they are OK. This was probably put in a box, book or chest that contained the right chemicals to eat the paper. Stabilizing and de-acidifying paper is a real art. Major museums usually have an expert who can do it.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Ah thanks. The blue paper is probably the acid free archival paper then, it's folded around the document when it's in the box. I've also noticed that some boxes had stickers on them that said they'd been irradiated, I guess to kill whatever biological was eating them.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Snapchat A Titty posted:

Came across this at the archives the other day. It's a 1526 legal document, I guess the ink was poisonous to whatever was eating the paper? Maybe contained lead?



Nothing was eating the paper I think, that looks like normal wear/decay to me rather than insect activity, which has sharper edges and definite "paths"--wormy paper has the same tracks as wormy wood.

Black ink does not contain lead, it's made out of iron and oak galls; the iron and tannin in the ink doesn't tint the surface of the paper like other inks do but actually eats into the paper. It's black or blackish grey when you use it but in time will rust to brown, because of the iron.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Well if it's anything like how the english handled it, the solution is "build millions of tiny walls for hikers to trip over a few hundred years later"

Contemporary fun fact:
In the part of Central Europe where I live, the borders of fields and plots of land are marked with stones and other markings. This week I learned that there's an (unpaid) office called the Field Juror (Feldgeschworener). These people have the job to keep an eye on borders and mark the stones with secret signs that would be noticeable if the stone was moved. These people are appointed at the city / village level, there are normally about 4-8 of them, most commonly seven. New members are hand-picked by the existing members in cooperation with the communal government, and hold the office until they die.
This whole organizational structure is about 700 years old, and women have been allowed to hold this office since the 1980s. Nowadays they cooperate with the cadastre office and use GPS to check the placement of their borders.

There's also all kinds of legends about the gruesome things that will befall a farmer who moves the stones around.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

HEY GAL posted:

Nothing was eating the paper I think, that looks like normal wear/decay to me rather than insect activity, which has sharper edges and definite "paths"--wormy paper has the same tracks as wormy wood.

Black ink does not contain lead, it's made out of iron and oak galls; the iron and tannin in the ink doesn't tint the surface of the paper like other inks do but actually eats into the paper. It's black or blackish grey when you use it but in time will rust to brown, because of the iron.

As a penmanship/pen/writing nerd, there's something I find oddly beautiful about the way the paper has decayed around the writing.

Also that is some seriously nice script.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Yeah I saw some letters written by a queen of Sweden and the handwriting was amazing. I wish mine could look that nice :argh:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

pidan posted:

Contemporary fun fact:
In the part of Central Europe where I live, the borders of fields and plots of land are marked with stones and other markings.

This reminds me of ridge & furrow patterns, visible to this day.



Oxen can do some serious earthmoving if given enough time.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Khazar-khum posted:

Most paper contains acids of some kind.
Except that cellulose generates acid when it ages, the real problem is paper made after the nineteenth century, when wood pulp paper was invented. That paper was made from cotton or linen rag pulp and, if kept out of sunlight, will be more OK than paper from the 1950s.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Xun posted:

Yeah I saw some letters written by a queen of Sweden and the handwriting was amazing. I wish mine could look that nice :argh:

Hella agreed, there are some really beautiful writing styles. I love how this guy uses multiple "fonts" (one for place names, one for personal names, one for body text, etc):



Sorry for the bad photo, I guess my hand was shaking a bit. Though I always take 2 photos in case one is blurry, the "best" one wasn't so hot either.

e: He even changes "font" for the word item (meaning "also" or "likewise") in the block of text at the top

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Snapchat A Titty posted:

e: He even changes "font" for the word item (meaning "also" or "likewise") in the block of text at the top

That's because Danish at the time used the same cursive handwriting as German did, which was different from the rest of Europe. Words from Romance languages (mostly Latin at the time) were commonly written in Latin letters (i.e. those which we use today) as well. It was the same in printing (at least in German, though if Danish used the Fraktur font for print as well, then they probably did so too)

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