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That's wat the disrespectful TSM deserve for refusing to shake Samsung's hands after their match
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Oct 9, 2016 03:48
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henkman posted:TSM was eliminated by RNG dude lol Wins against Korean Teams (AKA real worlds standings) NA: 2 LMS: 1 ANX: 1 EU: 0
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Oct 9, 2016 04:17
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Wins against Korean Teams (AKA real worlds standings) Also of note, Group Stage intra-region record: NA 4-0 EU
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Wins against Korean Teams (AKA real worlds standings) very impressive, im convinced
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Oct 9, 2016 04:21
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If I were Bjergsen I'd just hang myself after that
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Oct 9, 2016 04:38
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Hey guys maybe let's start banning Aurelion Sol
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Oct 9, 2016 04:41
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Honestly, I'm not sure how Ez was pushing lane against Lucian so hard. LiftLift never recovered that CS lead. Uzi is a monster, but like, I still don't get it.
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Oct 9, 2016 04:53
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Sexpansion posted:Hey guys maybe let's start banning Aurelion Sol Their draft was painfully bad, in retrospect. Didn't ban Aurelion Sol (despite him being such a power pick when he hasn't been banned/disabled/played by Splyce), put Hauntzer on a Jayce that he didn't look at all comfortable on, had Bjerg on a midlaner without appreciable waveclear who couldn't keep up with AS's roam, had Doublelift on a 500 range ADC (again, up against Aurelion Sol)... In general, it really felt like drafting was TSM's biggest weakness, aside from the occasional boneheaded Doublelift play. In their first loss, they had literally zero frontline against Mata's incredibly aggressive (and well known) Alistar and were playing poo poo like Orianna in the Year of Our Lord 2016. In their second, they gave no respect to Crown's Viktor and it more or less cost them the game. Shadow225 posted:Honestly, I'm not sure how Ez was pushing lane against Lucian so hard. LiftLift never recovered that CS lead. Uzi is a monster, but like, I still don't get it. Braum + Lucian is a losing lane against Ezreal + Nami every single time, especially when you have someone of Uzi's caliber playing Ezreal. You can't effectively engage on either of them with Braum's Q, Ez can outpoke you with Nami's buff + Mystic Shot, and you have no chance of getting any return trades on Uzi when he goes to CS because you're a 500 attack range Lucian. Lucian was a terrible draft pick both for the purposes of that lane and for the game in general, because putting yourself within 500 range of Aurelion Sol is asking for trouble. Vermain fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Oct 9, 2016 |
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Oct 9, 2016 04:55
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Sexpansion posted:Hey guys maybe let's start banning Aurelion Sol That's Riot's job
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Shadow225 posted:Honestly, I'm not sure how Ez was pushing lane against Lucian so hard. LiftLift never recovered that CS lead. Uzi is a monster, but like, I still don't get it.
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Oct 9, 2016 05:28
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Shadow225 posted:Honestly, I'm not sure how Ez was pushing lane against Lucian so hard. LiftLift never recovered that CS lead. Uzi is a monster, but like, I still don't get it. Vermain already said most of it but I think it's worth pointing out an extra, braum is usually considered somewhat of a nami counter cause he can stuff her ult with his shield for free which is true. But pre 6 in lane, if he ever pulls out his shield it's a free bubble on him because you can just aim over his head and it'll get 'blocked', if he's right next to his adc it'll catch them too. Braum should be able to do more than nami later in the teamfight stage but the actual in lane matchup is a lot worse than I think people expect it to be because braums shield only makes the situation worse against nami's usual poke dominance.
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Oct 9, 2016 05:34
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So quick Q, I was out for most of the day, are any of the games worth watching?
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Monathin posted:So quick Q, I was out for most of the day, are any of the games worth watching? All of the SSG games are good if you like seeing very competent teamplay. SSG vs. RNG's especially notable for the sudden reappearance of a certain support character who's been gone from the meta for years. TSM vs. RNG's good if you like watching a ship be torpedoed before 10 minutes and then gaze at it slowly sinking for the next 28.
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Oct 9, 2016 05:57
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Vermain posted:All of the SSG games are good if you like seeing very competent teamplay. SSG vs. RNG's especially notable for the sudden reappearance of a certain support character who's been gone from the meta for years. I looked at this and it wasn't Leona and that makes me an incredibly sad person, that's my whole analysis. But lmao rip TSM
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Oct 9, 2016 06:01
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Support Brand and support Zyra both showed up this Worlds and blew a bunch of people apart, so whatever else happens, I'm a happy guy.
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Vermain posted:Support Brand and support Zyra both showed up this Worlds and blew a bunch of people apart, so whatever else happens, I'm a happy guy. It's amazing what happens when you pick a utility mage support and don't sit them on rank 1 dagger and have them build a ruby sightstone/aegis.
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Oct 9, 2016 06:43
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Vermain posted:Support Brand and support Zyra both showed up this Worlds and blew a bunch of people apart, so whatever else happens, I'm a happy guy. Turns out that in standard lane matchups, picking strong matchups and winning your lane wins games.
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Oct 9, 2016 06:59
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https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/784927847081123840 https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/784964413354672128 Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:That's Riot's job https://twitter.com/C9Jensen/status/782774084375576576
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Oct 9, 2016 07:08
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the drag is danish kryptonite
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Oct 9, 2016 07:16
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Do all the TSM fans still think they're a top 4 team who somehow got robbed? Sure, the group wasn't easy, but cmon, you gotta beat teams like Samsung and RNG if you want to be in the top 4.
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Oct 9, 2016 07:30
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People would probably reach and say that if they made it to groups they'd have more prep for a Best of 5 format because that's what people do every year when their team doesn't make it out of Groups
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Oct 9, 2016 07:40
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Smol posted:Do all the TSM fans still think they're a top 4 team who somehow got robbed? Sure, the group wasn't easy, but cmon, you gotta beat teams like Samsung and RNG if you want to be in the top 4. rng was playing like garbage all day and tsm still couldn't beat em, europe gave us a chance and we just dumpstered it. Back in the NA finals I said it looked like neither team won we just had one play worse and this whole thread made fun of me for being a wet blanket but here we are and tsm was in fact garbage. Don't get me wrong I was rooting for them, I rooted for clg and i'll root for c9 but at the end of the day these results aren't really that surprising.
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basically what I'm saying israbidsquid posted:ah the classic "literally every team is bad" take. a shame, i was looking forward to worlds but every team is going to lose.
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After the first week performance, I genuinely thought TSM had a solid shot of getting out but part of me is glad to see them fail yet again. I would be really surprised if C9 make it out of groups but it's hard to predict what is happening at the moment. Also I just have to say that the alternate stream is literally the best thing to come out of this worlds: not having to listen to Krepo, Quikshot or Phreak has made watching it infinitely better. Admittedly when LS pops up on the alt stream he can be obnoxiously spergy, but having the pros on there giving interesting insights and the other set of better casters not pointlessly screaming or spinning stupid narratives is greatly appreciated. Inori in particular has been a fount of jungler knowledge and I would highly recommend any cast he is on.
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Oct 9, 2016 07:46
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Road on imay is banned for their game against FW so that might throw a wrench in group B
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Oct 9, 2016 08:54
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Firebert posted:Let's be honest, CLG was eliminated by losing to Albus Nox twice lol It's not like losing to nox is some sort of joke
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Oct 9, 2016 11:14
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Also who else thinks that the CIS region is going to see like a double in viewership because people are gonna wanna watch note nox
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Luna Was Here posted:Also who else thinks that the CIS region is going to see like a double in viewership because people are gonna wanna watch note nox
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anti-magic posted:After the first week performance, I genuinely thought TSM had a solid shot of getting out but part of me is glad to see them fail yet again. I would be really surprised if C9 make it out of groups but it's hard to predict what is happening at the moment. What's this?
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Oct 9, 2016 11:55
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flyingkiwi posted:What's this? Alternate streams cast by former pros or other analysts highlighting specific match-ups, or neat things like seeing the game through one team's Fog of War vision only (Which lead to an awesome game of Mata's Nami being the scariest thing on the map)
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Oct 9, 2016 12:08
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Will any NA team accomplish the nigh-impossible feat of "win 2 games"? Probably not.
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RealFoxy posted:twitch.tv/riotgames2 This. I have only been watching worlds from vods so I had no idea what the actual stream address was. Anyone who is sick on the main stream should do themselves a favour and watch the alternate instead. Much more interesting, plus they tend to be pretty on point about showing big plays on other parts of the map picture in picture at least.
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Oct 9, 2016 13:53
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props to TSM for their year or work and trials leading up to this. they've put on a hell of a show and done better than I've seen from any NA team yet. too bad people will focus on the loss as a result of false expectations of Asian teams like "oh, it's just Korea's 3rd seed." lmao at everyone who thought SSG wouldn't dominate.
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Oct 9, 2016 14:25
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What's the idea behind finishing Ruby Sightstone before starting on Locket in pro play? My thought would be that getting your Locker up is more valuable than the Sightstone upgrade but I keep seeing it.
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Oct 9, 2016 14:43
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Space Flower posted:props to TSM for their year or work and trials leading up to this. they've put on a hell of a show and done better than I've seen from any NA team yet. i didn't personally expect them to get 1st but they should have at least beaten rng, splyce served them the group on a silver platter and they still didn't get out
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BigLeafyTree posted:What's the idea behind finishing Ruby Sightstone before starting on Locket in pro play? My thought would be that getting your Locker up is more valuable than the Sightstone upgrade but I keep seeing it. Shortens cooldowns on items actives, which means more Locket shields.
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Max Coveri posted:Shortens cooldowns on items actives, which means more Locket shields. It also shortens the cooldown on trinkets if the alt stream is to be believed. That may be partially why it is rushed, that and the extra wards.
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BigLeafyTree posted:What's the idea behind finishing Ruby Sightstone before starting on Locket in pro play? My thought would be that getting your Locker up is more valuable than the Sightstone upgrade but I keep seeing it. It's better if you're actively trying not to fight for the foreseeable future. A case can also be made that if you do want to fight, your opponents probably won't so you still won't get a lot of value from the aura in comparison to the extra picks you can create with more wards
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