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Anony Mouse
Jan 30, 2005

A name means nothing on the battlefield. After a week, no one has a name.
Lipstick Apathy

Sagebrush posted:

A guy in Phoenix did this for a couple of years as an act of civil disobedience. He put on a gorilla mask and drove at high speed past automated speed traps, and then contested every ticket with "that's not me, a gorilla had stolen my car."
Why even wear a mask? As far as I know, the cameras aren't even allowed to take a picture of your face, only your car and license plate. Red light tickets are completely unenforceable. I got one a few weeks ago and got it dropped by simply filling out a form. My city government even has the form hosted right on their website. I guess it might vary by state/city.

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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
On a family trip to Ireland, my dad started having a panic attack when we first got to Northern Ireland since the signs were now in miles and our rental car didn't have any markings for MPH. Then after the trip, we ended up with a variety of speeding tickets from both countries in the mail anyway. Hell of a place to drive.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Anony Mouse posted:

Why even wear a mask? As far as I know, the cameras aren't even allowed to take a picture of your face, only your car and license plate. Red light tickets are completely unenforceable. I got one a few weeks ago and got it dropped by simply filling out a form. My city government even has the form hosted right on their website. I guess it might vary by state/city.

It would certainly be a matter of state law (or even municipal by-law), so some states will have different attitudes.

Arizona has a weird wild-west combination of "the lawman can gently caress you over however he sees fit, this town ain't friendly to your type" and "the government better stay the gently caress outta my business." Traffic cameras seem to fall somewhere in the middle of those two.

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



MausoleumExtremist posted:

Non roundabout-related post from YOSPOS picture thread that seemed kinda OSHA:



Looks like the control room at reactor B in hanford washington. I'm not sure if they're still giving tours of the place, what with all sorts of other OSHA related radioactive waste leaks and whatnot around there at the moment, but speaking from experience the view behind that panel is an absolute miracle of hydraulic plumbing.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Sponge Baathist posted:

They should invent a metric time that makes up for kilometers being shorter than miles so that mph=kmpMT(metric time) so i don't get confused when i get pulled over for speeding because the Speedo meter has two speeds on it

A new time scale so the numbers on the speedo are the same for kilometers and miles :laffo: I like it

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Hey, kilometer hours per mile makes perfect sense to me!

... A day is 15 kilometer hours per mile long, I could work with that.

Blackmage Yapo
Mar 27, 2008

Odin You Sad I Have
All The SPP

dis astranagant posted:

My "favorite" is the diverging diamond interchange on 13 and I-44 in Springfield, MO. I'm still shocked there aren't more head on collisions between people who don't know what's going on there. Any exit looks like a game of chicken.

Diverging diamond rule and once you get used to them it speeds traffic way up. You would have to be trying really hard to get into a head on in one, although if you missed the lights it would be pretty easy to tbone someone but that's true in a regular intersection too

We're up to at least 5 in town now. The really wacky one is chestnut and 65, where the slower diamond is actually under the highway.

Blackmage Yapo fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Oct 10, 2016

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Imagined posted:

annual vehicle safety inspections

:laffo: You've severely underestimated car culture. Next you'll tell us people should be recertified for their drivers licenses every five years or something, instead of never.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Three-Phase posted:

Are you making transformers, (electrical) reactors, motors, or generators?

The rewind shop I was at had the huge dip tanks as well as a vacuum tank for vacuum-impregnating the resin in the stator coils. Good quality class-F insulation. I think the biggest machines they were making were around 20000 HP, 13.8kV so you need to make sure the stator windings have the corona taping and everything is VPIed well.

http://youtu.be/_65mXQ-GNVM
They are rewinding a medium voltage wound-rotor induction motor here and they have the VPI tank halfway through the video.

I'm in a coil shop. We make stator and armature coils for motors and generators for different winding shops around the country/world. We have the tanks for dip and bake and sealed coils, but we don't do VPI at our shop. Since you have worked in a winding shop let me ask you a question since this is a hotly debated topic at my work. Do you think a few years of experience doing the coils at a shop like mine is enough to get your foot in the door at a winding shop? I like my job, but it's way too many hours, plus winding pays much better. I at least do a lot of QC, so I've learned a bit about the winding process compared to someone who just say, insulates all the time.

E: Not sure what the biggest motor we made coils is for. I know we regularly do a job with coils that weigh a little over 20 lbs each and have 60 coils in the motor but it's low voltage so I can't remember what it's power output was. They loving suck to have to straighten, press, and pack on your own. The motors themself aren't there, but the specs are on the card. Usually its anywhere from 500-5000 HP IIRC. I remember someone saying a while back we had a job so big we had to use the forklift or a long rear end lever bar to put radius in the arms but that's definitely not the norm.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Oct 10, 2016

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Hm, you work at an electric motor factory, eh?

There's something I've always wondered. Why is it that you can get a motor that is, say, about the size of a basketball -- e.g. the motor on top of a milling machine -- that's rated for like 3 horsepower, but you can also get a motor roughly the same size in e.g. an electric motorcycle that's rated for like 45 horsepower? What's the difference between those two that makes one so much more powerful than the other?

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I got no idea man, unless you're talking to the other guy. We specifically make form wound coils for larger motors. Usually smaller motors are random wound where the coils are basically a smaller gauge round copper wire you just wind up and shove into the stator and etc, etc. We make larger ones with a specific shape and dimension. My guess is it's probably best to ask an electrical engineer or someone who knows about the theory. I'm really on the mechanical side of things.

e: I know amount of turns can affect the speed of the motor, as we sometimes make coils for dual speed motors where the motor will have alternating turned coils, like say a 8 turn coil, then a 9 turn. Does the milling machine run at a set, constant speed? Perhaps it doesn't need a lot of HP, just enough torque to maintain what it needs and it being specifically designed to do that, reliably for a long time.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Oct 10, 2016

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Sagebrush posted:

Hm, you work at an electric motor factory, eh?

There's something I've always wondered. Why is it that you can get a motor that is, say, about the size of a basketball -- e.g. the motor on top of a milling machine -- that's rated for like 3 horsepower, but you can also get a motor roughly the same size in e.g. an electric motorcycle that's rated for like 45 horsepower? What's the difference between those two that makes one so much more powerful than the other?
Torque vs power output at max power RPM.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

PittTheElder posted:

:laffo: You've severely underestimated car culture.
American car culture.

In germany for example, you have leniency of up to 1-3 years after the the very first check a vehicle got, and after that checks have to happen within intervals of 1-2 years, depending on what kind of vehicle it is, and what it is used for (taxis for example need to be checked once a year).

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Mithaldu posted:

American car culture.

In germany for example, you have leniency of up to 1-3 years after the the very first check a vehicle got, and after that checks have to happen within intervals of 1-2 years, depending on what kind of vehicle it is, and what it is used for (taxis for example need to be checked once a year).

VW

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
That's emissions, not safety. Dunno if the TÜV does those.

Also, i watch Regular Car Reviews. I've seen some of the poo poo that's allowed to roll on american roads. ;)



I REALLY want to see them handle a curve.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Mithaldu posted:

American car culture.

In germany for example, you have leniency of up to 1-3 years after the the very first check a vehicle got, and after that checks have to happen within intervals of 1-2 years, depending on what kind of vehicle it is, and what it is used for (taxis for example need to be checked once a year).

Is that a full road-worthiness check, or just emissions?

We used to have an emissions check here in British Columbia, but they recently got rid of it because there aren't enough old, polluting cars on the road to make it worthwhile to fund the program.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Is that a full road-worthiness check, or just emissions?

We used to have an emissions check here in British Columbia, but they recently got rid of it because there aren't enough old, polluting cars on the road to make it worthwhile to fund the program.
Can't speak for Germany, but in Sweden we have annual car inspections, including roadworthiness.

Things that will fail you:
* Structural frame rust.
* Non-functioning lights, signals or horn.
* Misaligned headlights.
* Oil leakage.
* Broken parking brake. If you have an automatic transmission, the P position has to lock the wheels as well.
* Damaged or bald tires (less than 1.6mm tread)
* Broken speedo.
* Weak brakes.
* Exhaust sound level and emissions.
* Suspension issues that cause unsafe handling
And in general not conforming to vehicle safety laws.

For most of the things you get a grace period of a few months to fix it and come back, but if you have a seriously dangerous issue the vehicle gets taken off the road immediately.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Is that a full road-worthiness check, or just emissions?

We used to have an emissions check here in British Columbia, but they recently got rid of it because there aren't enough old, polluting cars on the road to make it worthwhile to fund the program.

As i said in the post above, i don't know if it's emissions, but it's a thorough safety check. TÜV also does elevators and other machinery.

johnnyratbastard
Nov 9, 2012

Collateral Damage posted:

Can't speak for Germany, but in Sweden we have annual car inspections, including roadworthiness.

Things that will fail you:
* Structural frame rust.
* Non-functioning lights, signals or horn.
* Misaligned headlights.
* Oil leakage.
* Broken parking brake. If you have an automatic transmission, the P position has to lock the wheels as well.
* Damaged or bald tires (less than 1.6mm tread)
* Broken speedo.
* Weak brakes.
* Exhaust sound level and emissions.
* Suspension issues that cause unsafe handling
And in general not conforming to vehicle safety laws.

For most of the things you get a grace period of a few months to fix it and come back, but if you have a seriously dangerous issue the vehicle gets taken off the road immediately.

Same in nz, every 6 months.

The Big Lebowski
Nov 13, 2000

Pillbug

Elsa posted:

A new time scale so the numbers on the speedo are the same for kilometers and miles :laffo: I like it

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Collateral Damage posted:

Can't speak for Germany, but in Sweden we have annual car inspections, including roadworthiness.

Things that will fail you:
* Structural frame rust.
* Non-functioning lights, signals or horn.
* Misaligned headlights.
* Oil leakage.
* Broken parking brake. If you have an automatic transmission, the P position has to lock the wheels as well.
* Damaged or bald tires (less than 1.6mm tread)
* Broken speedo.
* Weak brakes.
* Exhaust sound level and emissions.
* Suspension issues that cause unsafe handling
And in general not conforming to vehicle safety laws.

For most of the things you get a grace period of a few months to fix it and come back, but if you have a seriously dangerous issue the vehicle gets taken off the road immediately.

In Oklahoma where I live there's literally nothing. No inspection whatsoever.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Annual in Finland too, and since it was privatized in the 90s sometime, about 1000% more expensive.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Roadworthiness every 2 years starting 5 past the model year in Missouri. Emissions are only checked if you live near St Louis.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


In Queensland, you just make sure you keep it registered and no need for ANY testing! Just gotta keep it maintained incase you get pulled over by the cops and you might get a defect. (I got enough defects/illegal mods on my first car that it was deregistered immediately, and I couldn't move it. So I got a ticket for keeping it in a 30 minute zone waiting for the tow truck...

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
Colorado doesn't have poo poo for inspections but the whole denver/metro area has municipal smog

It's dope though, they have these vans that sit on onramps, and if you drive past enough of them, their magic super laser cameras smog your car and you randomly get a thing in the mail that says "yo you're good for 2 more years"

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Annual vehicle inspections in the US would require socialism and we can't have that.

Bad mass transit doesn't help either.

MrBadidea
Apr 1, 2009

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

55mph would suck as an upper limit but i can say with confidence that even with a 70mph limit everyone routinely drives at 80 to 85 on the motorway.

100 is basically defacto minimum speed on the motorways around here.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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My older German co-worker at my last job used to rant at length about how much he hates American drivers/highways and how lovely our cars are. He liked to rant about lots of things.

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

Sagebrush posted:

Well, how is it handled in Europe? The UK has a generally similar justice system to ours and they have cameras all over the place. Including those average-speed deals that take your picture at the onramp and the exit and levy a fine for implied behavior, without actually measuring your speed directly at any time.

I don't know if in the UK you have the right to confront your accuser, but surely someone has tried the same general "who actually witnessed the crime/how can this be proven" line of questioning in a UK court?

Sorry to further the derail but here in the U.K. the odds are firmly stacked against the motorist.

If you trigger a speed camera including the average ones, a Notice of Intended Prosecution is posted to the registered keeper of the vehicle. You have to post this back within 28 days naming who was driving at the time of the offence.

They'll then either:

1. Offer to deal with the offence by way of a fixed penalty of £100 fine and 3 points
2. invite you to a speed awareness or similar course (which costs the same as a speeding fine but you don't get the points)
3. Take you to court if the offence is too serious to be dealt with by way of a fixed penalty.

You can just about forget trying to defend on grounds such as:

1. Can't remember who was driving
2. Was the camera calibrated properly
3. Anything else

They've all been tried and failed over and over again.

So in summary, gently caress cameras.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Glagha posted:

My older German co-worker at my last job used to rant at length about how much he hates American drivers/highways and how lovely our cars are. He liked to rant about lots of things.

He's right on all three counts, though. :(

ltkerensky
Oct 27, 2010

Biggest lurker to ever lurk.

Collateral Damage posted:

Can't speak for Germany, but in Sweden we have annual car inspections, including roadworthiness.

Things that will fail you:
* Structural frame rust.
* Non-functioning lights, signals or horn.
* Misaligned headlights.
* Oil leakage.
* Broken parking brake. If you have an automatic transmission, the P position has to lock the wheels as well.
* Damaged or bald tires (less than 1.6mm tread)
* Broken speedo.
* Weak brakes.
* Exhaust sound level and emissions.
* Suspension issues that cause unsafe handling
And in general not conforming to vehicle safety laws.

For most of the things you get a grace period of a few months to fix it and come back, but if you have a seriously dangerous issue the vehicle gets taken off the road immediately.

In Spain is basically the same, at least my experience of it around Madrid.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

Hm, you work at an electric motor factory, eh?

There's something I've always wondered. Why is it that you can get a motor that is, say, about the size of a basketball -- e.g. the motor on top of a milling machine -- that's rated for like 3 horsepower, but you can also get a motor roughly the same size in e.g. an electric motorcycle that's rated for like 45 horsepower? What's the difference between those two that makes one so much more powerful than the other?

Two things: Duty Cycle and Marketing Bullshit.

45eHP and the size of a coffee can will get hot quickly and will either need lots of active cooling (which makes it significantly larger), and/or to not be run for very long at full load. I don't think I've seen an electric motor with continuous/5 minute power shown on the nameplate, but I'm certain one exists. 3eHP motor the same size (assuming it's not a China Export special where they have a huge case full of air with a small motor to keep it company) will probably cheerfully run at full load at 45ºC forever. Guy running the tool not so much.

Marketing wank /should/ be OSHA in the sense that there should be a season where marketers can legally be shot under a permit system, but since that's not legal it's not OSHA.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

monkeytennis posted:

Sorry to further the derail but here in the U.K. the odds are firmly stacked against the motorist.

If you trigger a speed camera including the average ones, a Notice of Intended Prosecution is posted to the registered keeper of the vehicle. You have to post this back within 28 days naming who was driving at the time of the offence.

They'll then either:

1. Offer to deal with the offence by way of a fixed penalty of £100 fine and 3 points
2. invite you to a speed awareness or similar course (which costs the same as a speeding fine but you don't get the points)
3. Take you to court if the offence is too serious to be dealt with by way of a fixed penalty.

You can just about forget trying to defend on grounds such as:

1. Can't remember who was driving
2. Was the camera calibrated properly
3. Anything else

They've all been tried and failed over and over again.

So in summary, gently caress cameras.

In the Netherlands you can request evidence. In that case they will send you a copy of the photo, for a fee I think. You can use that to prove you weren't in fact driving through red at that point, or that someone stole your plates and is driving in another car using your plates. If the defense is valid you don't have to pay the fine nor the photo fee.

OTOH, a little while ago a judge here made a town remove a speed cam because it was evident that in that specific location it wouldn't increase safety and would purely be there to give the town extra income.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Annual vehicle inspections in the US would require socialism and we can't have that.

Bad mass transit doesn't help either.

In Texas, that bastion of freedom and self-determinism, our cars have to pass inspection annually, including emissions.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Annual vehicle inspections in the US would require socialism and we can't have that.

Lots of states have annual vehicle inspections. Some don't. Delaware, Illinois, Hawaii, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, and D.C. all require annual safety inspections. Alabama and Maryland require a safety inspection when ownership is transferred. Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and D.C. require annual emissions testing.

The list of poo poo that'll fail your car for a safety inspection is typically pretty much identical to the list collateral damage posted.

blarzgh posted:

In Texas, that bastion of freedom and self-determinism, our cars have to pass inspection annually, including emissions.

And dildos are illegal. Go figure.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

blarzgh posted:

In Texas, that bastion of freedom and self-determinism, our cars have to pass inspection annually, including emissions.

Only if you're in the cities. Out in Real Texas it's basically horn/lights/wipers.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Phanatic posted:

Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and D.C. require annual emissions testing.

Not sure where you got your info from but Indiana in fact requires no testing or inspections of any kind.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Growing up in New England, there were annual vehicle inspections like the one enumerated above. Of course, if you "knew a guy" you could get away with certain things.

Now I live in Florida. There is no sort of inspection at all, which certainly makes me wonder about the safety of other vehicles.

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blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

Phanatic posted:

And dildos are illegal. Go figure.

"You could put an eye out with that thing!"

(While the law is still technically on the books, much like the sodomy statute, its unenforceable/not enforced)

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