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Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:Russia would be so good with a different leader Bring back Cavalry Catherine
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Why have one video card if you could have three for thrice the price.
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Oct 11, 2016 21:18
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Also, be sure to only use vram, not gddr3
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Oct 11, 2016 21:20
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Trasson posted:Whenever I read something like this I wonder if people played the same Beyond the Sword I dihttp://forums.somethingawful.com/stats.phpd. The minor patch-like rebalancing wasn't awful but all of the major additions were bad. My playtime in IV is a small fraction of III or V because I never found it that fun to begin with, so I will happily concede that I may be off about IV (I do this a lot with IV, mostly because everyone wants to fight when I say I think IV was the worst of the series if you take into account release year and such). III and V though drastically improved over the course of the expansions (Civ III was indeed "fine" at launch, but it got a lot better, versus V that was unplayable and launch and got much, much, better) and I wasn't really paying all that much attention to VI until recently because I just figured an unfun and buggy mess would launch and five years and two expansions later it would be good. From what I'm seeing in watching other folks play though, that doesn't seem the be the case. Which is good! CharlieFoxtrot posted:Bring back Cavalry Catherine In a game with multiple leaders not having Catherine as one of the Russian options would be terrible. But then again so is launching without the Mongols. 
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Oct 11, 2016 21:57
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Maybe I'm dumb. How come only Greece has two leaders? Or have the other second leaders not been revealed even in the press build? Or is Sparta a separate civ, which makes no sense?
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Oct 11, 2016 21:59
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Antti posted:Maybe I'm dumb. How come only Greece has two leaders? Or have the other second leaders not been revealed even in the press build? Or is Sparta a separate civ, which makes no sense? The second Greek leader hasn't even been officially announced yet. It would be pretty weird if only one civ had two leaders at launch. Gotta figure either the others all get revealed soon or none of them are in at launch and are in the first dlc or something.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:00
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Oh so Gorgo is something we've seen clues about but nothing official. That explains it. So she might be DLC instead.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:03
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The season pass will end up being a bunch of single liner public agendas
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Oct 11, 2016 22:04
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Remember there was also a leak that indicated we might get Isabella. That leak also had Poland, another leak has since revealed Poland to be DLC. The distinction with Gorgo is that she was initially revealed in a leak from what seemed like the release version of the game. So Greece might be the only one with 2 leaders at the start? Maybe to test out how popular that choice is.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:09
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Antti posted:Maybe I'm dumb. How come only Greece has two leaders? Or have the other second leaders not been revealed even in the press build? Or is Sparta a separate civ, which makes no sense? They wanted to show off the alternate leader feature, so they picked a civilization that was traditionally divided into two very different sides and represented them that way. 
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Oct 11, 2016 22:09
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Second leaders are going to be a major dlc revenue source, gorgo is just a preview of things to come
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Oct 11, 2016 22:11
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I'm really interested in the strategic view look but have only seen some screenshots. Does anyone have a YouTube link where someone plays in strategic view?
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Oct 11, 2016 22:16
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SlothBear posted:In a game with multiple leaders not having Catherine as one of the Russian options would be terrible. They should put all these leaders in and have them deliver sick flows in leader screens IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbH1BVXywY
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Oct 11, 2016 22:25
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So, what other probably-not-base-game things have been leaked? Gorgo, Isabella, and Persia are all I can remember; is there anything else? Edit: Poland too apparently.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:35
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Actually I don't think Persia as DLC has been leaked, but should be pretty obvious
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Oct 11, 2016 23:39
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Actually I don't think Persia as DLC has been leaked, but should be pretty obvious Supposedly a Russian hacker or something found mentions of Persia in the game files. It's admittedly not as well-substantiated as other leaks, but, well, it's Persia. They're practically guaranteed, and they'll have the Immortal as a special unit (though I don't know what ability it'll have; the Mamluk's seems appropriate but, well, the Mamluk has that), so the maybe-leak just confirms that they're probably coming early hopefully. I wonder if they're going to have Cyrus as a leader for them again; while multiple leaders makes putting both Cyrus and Darius in a possibility, unless like look at a different era for Persia finally or something, Cyrus would be interesting given that his killer is the leader of another civ. It's unlikely but I kind of hope for some unique diplomacy lines between him and Tomyris if he does get in.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:45
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Actually I don't think Persia as DLC has been leaked, but should be pretty obvious Persia wasn't in the leaked photo, it was historical pictures of: First row: Teddy Roosevelt, Saladin, Montezuma, Pedro II, Qin Shi Huang Second Row: Cleopatra, Victoria, Catherine de Medici, Fredrick Barbarossa, Gorgo Third Row: Pericles, Gandhi, Hojo Tokimune, Mvemba, Harald Hardrada Fourth Row: Jadwiga, Trajan, Peter the Great, Tomyris, Isabella Fifth Row: Phillip II, Gilgamesh So Gorgo (Greece), Isabella (Spain), and Jadwiga (Poland) are all but confirmed as DLC so far.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:46
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Roland Jones posted:I wonder if they're going to have Cyrus as a leader for them again; while multiple leaders makes putting both Cyrus and Darius in a possibility, unless like look at a different era for Persia finally or something, Cyrus would be interesting given that his killer is the leader of another civ. It's unlikely but I kind of hope for some unique diplomacy lines between him and Tomyris if he does get in. I get the feeling that's why neither Caesar leads Rome.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:50
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Cythereal posted:Persia wasn't in the leaked photo, it was historical pictures of: Yeah that's what I was saying? Anyway, Gorgo might show up in the base game because she was in the civopedia on whatever version Ed playing on that stream, unlike Jadwiga or Isabella
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Oct 11, 2016 23:51
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Byzantine posted:I get the feeling that's why neither Caesar leads Rome. Theodora as DLC leader for Rome. 
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Oct 11, 2016 23:54
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Byzantine posted:I get the feeling that's why neither Caesar leads Rome. That makes sense, actually. Though it makes me wonder who the non-Darius Persian leader might be, if there is one, since those two are the only Persian leaders they've used yet. Might be a queen, actually; besides them trying to include more female leaders this time apparently (which I appreciate), so far both alternate leaders that have been leaked have been female for civs whose original leader is male. Though that does make an alternate American leader difficult. Leaves me wanting the definitely-not-happening option of having Hillary Clinton as the other American leader (imagine how pissed people would be), but it'll probably be Washington or Lincoln.
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Oct 11, 2016 23:59
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Oct 12, 2016 00:04
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get Xerxes as the Persian leader this time around. They've been trying to shake things up a bit from the traditional choices when it comes to 6.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:07
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Roland Jones posted:That makes sense, actually. Though it makes me wonder who the non-Darius Persian leader might be, if there is one, since those two are the only Persian leaders they've used yet. Might be a queen, actually; besides them trying to include more female leaders this time apparently (which I appreciate), so far both alternate leaders that have been leaked have been female for civs whose original leader is male. Eleanor Roosevelt springs to mind as a potential woman American leader. Xerxes is my first thought for a Persian leader who's not Cyrus or Darius.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:11
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Captain Fargle posted:I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get Xerxes as the Persian leader this time around. They've been trying to shake things up a bit from the traditional choices when it comes to 6. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. The mixing things up is one of the things I've liked about the leaders so far. Maybe they'll actually pick someone from a different Persian empire, though, and pick Khosrow/Anushirvan or some other Sassanid instead; that'd be an even bigger change. Cythereal posted:Eleanor Roosevelt springs to mind as a potential woman American leader. Oh, good call.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:16
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Cythereal posted:Eleanor Roosevelt springs to mind as a potential woman American leader. Better idea. Ardashir I. Still technically Persia! Just not Achaemenid.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:17
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Harriet Tubman or Sacajawea for America's leader please
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Oct 12, 2016 00:23
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Some post-colonial leaders might be interesting. Like Mossadegh for Persia
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Oct 12, 2016 00:29
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Harriet Tubman or Sacajawea for America's leader please Okay, as stupid as it would be to not have a president or a founding fathers as a leader, Harriet Tubman would kick rear end purely because of whatever her unique ability and agenda might be.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:32
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The Human Crouton posted:Okay, as stupid as it would be to not have a president or a founding fathers as a leader, Harriet Tubman would kick rear end purely because of whatever her unique ability and agenda might be. I mean, she's no less a leader of America than many other "leaders" of past civs have been. Of course America does have a longer list I guess. SlothBear fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 12, 2016 |
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Captain Fargle posted:I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get Xerxes as the Persian leader this time around. They've been trying to shake things up a bit from the traditional choices when it comes to 6.
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SlothBear posted:I mean, she's no less a leader of America than many other "leaders" of past civs have been. Of course America does have a longer list I guess. Yeah. They blur the lines on leaders sometimes to get a woman in, or to find a name some people might recognize; but America is a civ where we have a complete list of all leaders throughout our history with first person sources documenting every move. A little less room to stray away from using actual leaders, I think.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:56
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The Human Crouton posted:America is a civ where we have a complete list of all leaders throughout our history with first person sources documenting every move. A little less room to stray away from using actual leaders, I think. Why should America get better treatment than India
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Adding speculation fuel for the potential DLC: the list of City-States that are currently known. Amsterdam (Netherlands) Buenos Aires (Argentina) Brussels (Belgium) Carthage Geneva (Switzerland) Hattusa (Hittites) Hong Kong Jakarta (Indonesia) Jerusalem (Israel) Kabul (Afghanistan) Kandy (Sri Lanka) Kumasi (Ghana) La Venta (Olmec) Lisbon (Portugal) Mohenjo-daro (Pakistan) Nan Madol (Pohnpei(Micronesia)) Preslav (Bulgaria) Toronto (Canada) Seoul (Korea) Stockholm (Sweden) Valletta (Malta) Vilnius (Lithuania) Yerevan (Armenia) Zanzibar (Tanzania) Using Civ V as an example, just being on this list is in no way preventing a full-featured civilization later on. And most of the unique bonuses are generic enough that the host city-state could easily be simply renamed (the few that aren't could possibly have replacement effects, but are probably much less likely). Many of these have been civilizations in the series already, though often relegated to expansions. Given their selection for inclusion in the vanilla game, however, probably means that they aren't planned for the early wave of DLC. It's a much more compact list than what Civ V had, but even so, omissions may be as telling as inclusions. There's no representatives for, say, the Celts, the Inca, Mongolia, Persia, or Poland, for instance.
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Oct 12, 2016 02:03
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Ethiopia and Morocco here we come
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I would honestly really like to see an Israeli civ lead by Solomon, but I don't know how well that would go over with people.
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I'd argue that the known-quantity nature of the American presidency, and to a lesser degree the British monarchy, is actually the only reason the role of "leaders" in Civ is seen as restricted to those who've wielded the top position within their nation rather than those who are recognisable as major contributors to its legacy, or mythical leaders representative of the nation's character. The nature of history is that things are rarely so neat in the pre-classical era and I think the idea that it has to be an actual president is stupid in a game that's been more than happy to just roll multiple cultures into a ball just to have them in the game under a 'leader' who had nothing to do with most of them.
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Oct 12, 2016 02:26
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Why should America get better treatment than India I didn't think I was arguing against India.
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Oct 12, 2016 02:31
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Ethiopia and Morocco here we come Was there a big meltdown when Congo got announced?
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Was there a big meltdown when Congo got announced? No. The primary grognard meltdown was over Catherine de Medici leading France.
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