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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

crabcakes66 posted:

I keep thinking that no national election is ever going to top this one in my lifetime. Part of me is sad about that. The other part of me is relieved.

just think

due to the magic of the internet, you'll be able to relive every ounce of delightful schadenfreude as many times as you like

the ease of taking video and the explosion of youtube vloggers means that even over the course of a mere 24 hours, hundreds if not thousands of times that amount of purestrain right-wing tears from locations all over the country will be uploaded to youtube, slow-cooked in the angst and rage of a far-right base that's suddenly found themselves in an even stranger and scarier place than they were when obama won

and that's before the inevitable long-term repercussions when they realize that by "protest voting" trump and nobody downticket, they've set themselves up for long term damage like "more-socialized health care" and "tax increases that they'll never feel personally, but will hate for the sake of the angry person on the radio"

it'll be like brexit in reverse and it will be delightful

we live in the future, friend

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Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Right wing terrorism has been a major concern of law enforcement- especially rural law enforcement- for a long time.

Everyone likes to laugh at the Bundys and their dumbass wildlife occupation but the sovereign citizen movement has been around for decades and has one hell of a body count.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Smiling Jack posted:

Right wing terrorism has been a major concern of law enforcement- especially rural law enforcement- for a long time.

Everyone likes to laugh at the Bundys and their dumbass wildlife occupation but the sovereign citizen movement has been around for decades and has one hell of a body count.

Uhhh I think you'll find that those were all lone wolves whose motives we cannot hope to decipher at this point so there's no reason to try

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx

Peztopiary posted:

People thought this about every election since 2000, we haven't even gotten the tickets for Mr. Cruz' Ooze Luge.

There will never be another chair loving orange hitler.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Clinton Nov. win probability: random drift 95%, Bayesian 97%

A victory by Mr. Trump remains possible: Mrs. Clinton’s chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a 35-yard field goal.

I'm not going to fully unclench until we're in extra-point range.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time
I'm insanely pleased with how these last couple days in politics have been, but with the way Trump is going all Legion of Doom, I do worry about the deaths and injuries to increased right wing terrah following the election

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


crabcakes66 posted:

I keep thinking that no national election is ever going to top this one in my lifetime. Part of me is sad about that. The other part of me is relieved.

Wait until the ashes of the Republican party settle and eventually produces a Trump But Competent candidate, who's absorbed all the nationalism, xenophobia, authoritarianism and desire for a fascistic cult of personality ready to do violence in his name without the crippling stupidity and short-sightedness that prevents Trump from actually doing any sort of effective political strategy.

Pair with a Republican party that's been so decimated by infighting and civil war that the remaining officials are happy to fall in line behind someone who can return them to glory and a Democratic party that's gotten too comfortable from their baked-in electoral map advantage that they throw up increasingly unpopular insider politicians on the grounds that "hey, the Republicans are worse!"

They probably need to blow 2020 against Clinton to get Ted Cruz or Kasich out of the way, but eight years should be more than enough time. The long-term problem with the Republican party's descent into true madness is that under a two-party system it's just about inevitable that they'll win one of these elections, even if they keep throwing up worse and worse candidates.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

crabcakes66 posted:

I keep wondering if these low IQ rednecks are really going to back up their shittalk with violence.

99.99% of them will go to work on Wednesday hungover and/or cranky.

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

prefect posted:

Clinton Nov. win probability: random drift 95%, Bayesian 97%



jfc the last time I saw one of these was before Friday and I hadn't realized just how much it jumped

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


crabcakes66 posted:

There will never be another chair loving orange hitler.

I think there will be, but it won't be Cruz. He's hated by too many groups, and too repulsive without any redeeming qualities (even Trump is kind of funny at times).

prefect posted:

Clinton Nov. win probability: random drift 95%, Bayesian 97%

A victory by Mr. Trump remains possible: Mrs. Clinton’s chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a 35-yard field goal.

I'm not going to fully unclench until we're in extra-point range.

I have no idea what these sports analogies mean. Is this like the same chances of a Clinton win as having megacreeps and a fed AM on your team (imaterribleperson)?

Nichael fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Oct 12, 2016

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Epic High Five posted:

Uhhh I think you'll find that those were all lone wolves whose motives we cannot hope to decipher at this point so there's no reason to try

Lone wolf was originally used to describe white supremacist terrorists who acted alone and were hard to identify through traditional investigative means. The term was popularized by white supremacists in the 1990s.

Ironically this "lone wolf" tactic was adopted when the FBI got its poo poo together and systematically dismantled a bunch of white supremacist groups in the 70s and 80s.

Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Oct 12, 2016

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

the paradigm shift posted:

seriously though how do you follow any of us politics without being able to recognize Christie his loving face has been all over it since at least 08

To be fair it took me a few seconds

I mean, his smoothie is still half-full

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

I'm going to feel so loving empty after this election

I am going to feel relief and then, when the Predictit money is deposited, I'm going to feel a fancy steak in my stomach.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Dolash posted:

They probably need to blow 2020 against Clinton to get Ted Cruz or Kasich out of the way, but eight years should be more than enough time. The long-term problem with the Republican party's descent into true madness is that under a two-party system it's just about inevitable that they'll win one of these elections, even if they keep throwing up worse and worse candidates.
Yeah, the Democratic party's control of the executive isn't going to last forever. I think it's naive to think the strategy for Trump 2.0 isn't being worked on right now. Keep the bigotry and sexism, maybe throw in some anti-gay stuff, and add an actual functioning campaign. It could work.

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I am going to feel relief and then, when the Predictit money is deposited, I'm going to feel a fancy steak in my stomach.
Aren't taco truck tacos more appropriate for a victory?

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...
If you think "every election we say it gets crazier" is any sort of argument that this one is gonna be unforgettably top tier crazy, consider this:

Donald Trump. Really mull it over.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Nichael posted:

Aren't taco truck tacos more appropriate for a victory?

Ooh, that's a much better idea. gently caress, I want to go to a taco truck on the 9th and buy the next five customers in line their food and tell them it's because Trump lost. Make some people smile and if there's a Trumper in the mix then it rubs the lime juice in the wound.

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx

Oiled and Ready posted:

consider this:

Donald Trump. Really mull it over.

makes u think

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

crabcakes66 posted:

makes u think

Sometimes i have a moment and really try to put myself in the memories of what I thought about him over all the pre-politics years. It's mindboggling.

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Oiled and Ready posted:

If you think "every election we say it gets crazier" is any sort of argument that this one is gonna be unforgettably top tier crazy, consider this:

Donald Trump. Really mull it over.

Kanye.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Kanye thinks way less of himself and is way more connected to reality than Trump.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



*actively mulls*

Yowza. Almost started on introspection.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Like maybe there will be better primaries shitshows, but the rnc is going to lock down selections for the general

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Fidel Castronaut posted:

Ooh, that's a much better idea. gently caress, I want to go to a taco truck on the 9th and buy the next five customers in line their food and tell them it's because Trump lost. Make some people smile and if there's a Trumper in the mix then it rubs the lime juice in the wound.

That's a pretty good idea. Tacos for some, miniature American flags for others.


Oiled and Ready posted:

Sometimes i have a moment and really try to put myself in the memories of what I thought about him over all the pre-politics years. It's mindboggling.

I didn't think of him. I remember The Apprentice was popular for like a season and a half, and then it basically became NBC filler. I'm surprised anyone did think much about him before this poo poo because even his famous for being famous schtick was usurped by bigger attention whores over the years.

Bip Roberts posted:

Kanye thinks way less of himself and is way more connected to reality than Trump.
That's pretty true actually. Kanye's a narcissist but not to a crippling extent.


theflyingexecutive posted:

Like maybe there will be better primaries shitshows, but the rnc is going to lock down selections for the general
The RNC has demonstrated that they wield no power whatsoever.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

"Before this poo poo" being before the primaries or before the birther conspiracy?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Nichael posted:

The RNC has demonstrated that they wield no power whatsoever.

they do, but didn't use it

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

second week of November, they'll get rid of winner take all states and establish stricter nomination and debate participation rules

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


theflyingexecutive posted:

"Before this poo poo" being before the primaries or before the birther conspiracy?
I guess the primaries. Even during the birther stuff, he didn't get that much attention from me because he was one of many birther assholes (though obviously one of the loudest).

theflyingexecutive posted:

second week of November, they'll get rid of winner take all states and establish stricter nomination and debate participation rules
They're not going to get rid of the frog nazis that easily. I mean, for gently caress's sake, the frog nazi people aren't even that different than regular Republicans, they're just more crass.

Every time an establishment Republican gets the vapors from that dastardly Donald's vulgar mouth, I want to punch something. These people are responsible and they won't even admit it. Even the "good ones" like thread favorite Anna Nevarro contributed to this.

Nichael fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Oct 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Almost fell asleep watching Luke Cage and woke up long enough to see a millipede crawling across my pillow case.

Now I can never sleep again. :stare:

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

the frog nazis are just particularly excited, there's no way they vote third party against a more boring populist, esp if he actually dog whistles correctly

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

theflyingexecutive posted:

the frog nazis are just particularly excited, there's no way they vote third party against a more boring populist, esp if he actually dog whistles correctly

Who's dog whistling?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Almost fell asleep watching Luke Cage and woke up long enough to see a millipede crawling across my pillow case.

Now I can never sleep again. :stare:

They don't bite humans and they're no scarier than this.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Almost fell asleep watching Luke Cage and woke up long enough to see a millipede crawling across my pillow case.

Now I can never sleep again. :stare:

Ew, a millipede? We have house centipedes here and I loving hate them and now I'm thinking about them and now I won't be able to go to sleep.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Less crazy. Kanye would be Trump on social media and talk shows, but surprisingly reasonable and polished on the trail. Debates are the only big question Mark

Godlovesus
Oct 16, 2015

Ask me about continually throwing myself at the enemy and losing every single time in EU4 Multiplayer.
I wish I could put money on Predictit, but I'm not in the states, so it isn't available for me.

In the meantime though, people have been predicting the death of the Republican Party forever, but I think the best we can hope for is that they split back into their original factions of pro-business conservatives, libertarians and 'evangelicals' (because they're rarely genuine in their arguments for supporting that). You'll get the business conservatives party (Republican or maybe Conservative party) and the others (Nationalist/America First/Moralist/Deplorables party). Sadly the states won't get to come close to flipping democrat unless the districts can be redrawn in 2020, but who knows, we might get lucky!

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...
Glenn Beck 2020 is gonna be amazing though, especially since he will be "the moderate, self-improved outsider" in their primary and therefore may have a loving shot

Lmfao

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Almost fell asleep watching Luke Cage and woke up long enough to see a millipede crawling across my pillow case.

Now I can never sleep again. :stare:

Millipedes eat plants. Centipedes are crazy enough they look at you and decide it's David time.

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

There's a possibility that Yeezy could be a capable President. You can't say the same about Donger Trump.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Pepe sucking his own dick doesn't violate Facebook's standards. Good to know. :mrwhite:

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000

Dolash posted:

Wait until the ashes of the Republican party settle and eventually produces a Trump But Competent candidate, who's absorbed all the nationalism, xenophobia, authoritarianism and desire for a fascistic cult of personality ready to do violence in his name without the crippling stupidity and short-sightedness that prevents Trump from actually doing any sort of effective political strategy.
He's very competent. He knows the game he is playing and he isn't in it to win the presidency or any sort of political power. He wants to change the Trump brand from failed casinos and unaffordable housing to a social media empire. The basket of deplorables love him and will spend all sorts of money in their worship.

Moving forward, the only thing that may save the republican party is a dirty bomb or a nuclear crisis of sorts.

Garcin fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Oct 12, 2016

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Apr 30, 2005

Oiled and Ready posted:

Glenn Beck 2020 is gonna be amazing though, especially since he will be "the moderate, self-improved outsider" in their primary and therefore may have a loving shot

Lmfao

No way will the Mormon church put up with Glenn Beck being the fulfillment of the White Horse Prophecy.

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