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Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
Blurry puppy! (Banana for scale)

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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Aww, shaggy puppy :swoon:

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

But I'm also knocking on 40. And I know someone with a serious tolerance can appear completely sober at 0.08, aside from the smell.

I'm pretty sure I can't hang drywall unless I'm at least a solid 0.10

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Gentlemen, I have a question to ask.

Where do you stand on the idea of eating meat? I, right now am eating a delicious burger consisting of both cow and pig. It is wonderful. A friend of mine won't eat anywhere which serves halal meat because she doesn't believe that an animal should suffer before it's killed.

...but she'll happily eat an animal anyway assuming it's killed 'humanely'. I'm not entirely sure it's possible to murder something humanely, the act in itself is inhumane.

Thoughts?

I'm fine with it, though I really don't like factory farming. I dunno. I'll eat the hell out of a bacon cheeseburger regardless, but I'd prefer it was made from local small farm raised beef and pork rather than a factory farm.

My fiancee is a vegetarian, but former meat eater, and has pretty much said her problem is with the cruelty, not the killing/meat. If we move to Washington we'll be buying a big enough property to have our own chickens and goats.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

kastein posted:

If we move to Washington

Might Boeing be in your future?

10/10 would visit PNWAI

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



mariooncrack posted:

There would be a lot more vegetarians if people had to kill the animals they were going to eat.

I'd say just enjoy your food. If you don't like how it's being killed don't eat it?

I raised pigs for 4-H from age 8 until I graduated high school. I would always get two. One reason is that a lone hog will get kind of lonely and be hard to deal with.

The other reason was so we had a MEAT SPARE

The interesting thing about living in a rural area is that there are guys who will come out to your farm with a big box truck, slaughter an animal on premises, and haul it back to his butcher shop for final processing. They kill the animal, bleed it, gut it, and skin it on-site.

I learned a lot about porcine anatomy as an 8 year old. I cried a little, but then I ate the pork. It would have been disrespectful not to.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Safety Dance posted:

Might Boeing be in your future?

10/10 would visit PNWAI

Unlikely. The impression I get is that there's more contract management, systems engineer paper pushing, and holding interminable meetings and reading through meters of standards and documentation in designing a certified airframe's electrical system than there is actual electrical engineering. I'd rather work for the auto industry or hell, whatever company needs EEs near there, it doesn't really matter.

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



kastein posted:

I'm fine with it, though I really don't like factory farming. I dunno. I'll eat the hell out of a bacon cheeseburger regardless, but I'd prefer it was made from local small farm raised beef and pork rather than a factory farm.

I'm with you there. My wife and I actively try to purchase meat from local small farms where the animals do things like see the sky and eat food outside. We only buy the Pasture raised eggs (none of this "cage free really means we opened the door of the cage a few minutes a day" bullshit) and if we can't get local meat, we (usually) go without. Doesn't hurt that the local stuff also tastes waaaaay better. We bought a pork loin roast from a farmer's market from the guy who butchered it "I saw the pig into the world, and I saw him out" and it was divine.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
I like my factory farms. Yum yum.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

kastein posted:

Unlikely. The impression I get is that there's more contract management, systems engineer paper pushing, and holding interminable meetings and reading through meters of standards and documentation in designing a certified airframe's electrical system than there is actual electrical engineering. I'd rather work for the auto industry or hell, whatever company needs EEs near there, it doesn't really matter.

Well you're right on most of that but there's groups of engineers who handle emergent engineering/manufacturing issues and they don't get lost in the paper pushing as much.

There are tons of suppliers in the area, might be more up your alley. I think Phillips has a big facility near me for ultrasound and other medical equipment design and testing. Spacelab is another medical equipment company in the area and one of my good friends has worked there for a while too.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.
From a few pages ago:

Somewhat Heroic posted:

:golfclap: on the rebuttal. I've been on the internet too long to decide if your serious or not. I guess I get that for being on these forums for way too long. It was a :goonsay: as a generalization of what the stereotypical goon used to fall under (a sad lonely poor)
I'm not lonely

I'm enough of a :btroll: as it is without eating half a pizza on my own. There was a time when I was still in high school or undergrad where a $5 hot & ready from Little Caesars was one meal, but that would destroy my guts for days if I did it now.

JuryChat:

I get called for jury duty constantly and rarely even make it to voir dire. The one time I did, the defendant was there for a drunk driving collision. My sister was nearly killed by a drunk driver in a head-on. She was driving a 5th gen Dodge Colt and broke the steering wheel in half with her chest. So the defense attorney rather quickly challenged me being on there after asking if anyone had family who were involved in drunk driving accidents.

You guys that get to use your phones/kindles while waiting are lucky. The judges here are not electronic device-friendly. If your phone makes any noise (vibration included) or is out of your pocket at any time, they will have the bailiff take it from you and hold it in "cell phone jail" until 5 PM or the next morning depending on their mood. Same goes for tablets/ereaders. I've learned to bring a paperback to read while I'm waiting to be dismissed. At least they validate your parking.

MeatChat:

I have long held that unless someone is willing to kill and butcher their own meat, they have no right to eat it. I don't mean they have to do it every time or anything, but that they should be mindful of the process that has led to the porkchop or whatever sitting in front of them and be thankful to the animal that gave its life to sustain theirs.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?

nm posted:

I've won several DUIs, so. . .

They're very winnable if the BAC is low, the driving is good, and your jury has half a brain. Breath tests are actually pretty unreliable under .10 (arguably .11-.12 or so), it isn't just the defense trying to feed you something.

Old conversation but the guy in question blew a .24 a few hours after running his minivan off the road. He then broke into a house and slept on someone's couch for about 2-3 hours before the sheriff found his car and followed his tracks in the snow. So yeah, his excuse was he drank after the crash, no one bought it.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

rdb posted:

Old conversation but the guy in question blew a .24 a few hours after running his minivan off the road. He then broke into a house and slept on someone's couch for about 2-3 hours before the sheriff found his car and followed his tracks in the snow. So yeah, his excuse was he drank after the crash, no one bought it.

Euthanize, redistribute assets to the poor and organs into the organ donor pool. Done.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Oct 12, 2016

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Enourmo posted:

Meat may take a lot of resources, but growing enough of the right sort of vegetables to completely replace it in human diets would take even more.

Citation needed.

I love meat, if I had to prove I'd kill and prepare a carcass to be issued my carnivores card I'd be first in line to learn how to dress a kill.

I just found out today some roadworks on my commute will knock 5 minutes off each way when they're done, my commute will come down to about 20 minutes which I'm all for.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Olympic Mathlete posted:

Where are we on the old synthesised meat thing anyway? Clone me up some chicken titties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_bPobs8T5w

We are getting better - but so far it tastes like despair. I am definitely against the meat blob getting a mouth. I don't want to hear what it has to say.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

BraveUlysses posted:

Well you're right on most of that but there's groups of engineers who handle emergent engineering/manufacturing issues and they don't get lost in the paper pushing as much.

There are tons of suppliers in the area, might be more up your alley. I think Phillips has a big facility near me for ultrasound and other medical equipment design and testing. Spacelab is another medical equipment company in the area and one of my good friends has worked there for a while too.

Maybe. And yeah, embedded systems design / computer engineering / some electrical engineering is more my thing, especially if I get to design PCBs. God I love that poo poo, it's incredibly satisfying if you're somewhat OCD and a bit spergy.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

Dagen H posted:

Blurry puppy! (Banana for scale)



Westie?

I've got a cairn and she's the poo poo.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
It's a really bad time to try to get a job at Boeing right now anyway, we're laying people off left and right. price war with airbus is getting crazyyyy

Maksimus54
Jan 5, 2011

kastein posted:

Maybe. And yeah, embedded systems design / computer engineering / some electrical engineering is more my thing, especially if I get to design PCBs. God I love that poo poo, it's incredibly satisfying if you're somewhat OCD and a bit spergy.

If you're serious I've got a good friend that's an EE doing embedded systems in western washington for what I think is a decent company, can forward some info if interested.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

BraveUlysses posted:

It's a really bad time to try to get a job at Boeing right now anyway, we're laying people off left and right. price war with airbus is getting crazyyyy

Could always get a job at Bombardier where clearly profit doesn't have any relationship to survival.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Maksimus54 posted:

If you're serious I've got a good friend that's an EE doing embedded systems in western washington for what I think is a decent company, can forward some info if interested.

I am, but in like 2 or 3 years. I gotta finish up the house and make it saleable before we can even consider this. :sigh:

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



beep-beep car is go posted:

I'm with you there. My wife and I actively try to purchase meat from local small farms where the animals do things like see the sky and eat food outside. We only buy the Pasture raised eggs (none of this "cage free really means we opened the door of the cage a few minutes a day" bullshit) and if we can't get local meat, we (usually) go without. Doesn't hurt that the local stuff also tastes waaaaay better. We bought a pork loin roast from a farmer's market from the guy who butchered it "I saw the pig into the world, and I saw him out" and it was divine.

I don't like eating meat because I feel bad eating something that I couldn't bring myself to kill. I also feel guilty if I don't know how well its been raised. I don't object to the actual killing of animals for food just our detachment from the process and lack of knowledge of how well that animal was reared.

If i could buy meat directly from a farmer like the one you met and see the entire process of it coming from the field and being slaughtered and prepared, or if I could keep my own animals I could probably get over my objections quickly enough. I'd quite like to get involved and find out how it works.

I eat fish as I know I can kill them and chop them up (though I don't like doing it!) and because when I stopped I had terrible fish hankerings until I started eating them again. I don't yet (after around 16 years now) miss eating any other meat except for the inconvenience it causes when buying stuff or eating out.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I've gone hunting and slaughtered my own kills to eat along with helping with other people do theres. I also never keep a catch while fishing unless I'm going to for sure eat it. I also spent plenty of time on farms belonging to family members. I'm very aware of where my meat comes from, still gonna eat it without feeling bad in the least. That said, wasting meat does piss me off since something had to die to feed you. Respect that.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Seat Safety Switch posted:

Could always get a job at Bombardier where clearly profit doesn't have any relationship to survival.

My dad was a QC AME for them for a few years, you really really don't want to work there. The stories he has on the 415's are terrifying and mind boggling.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I'm very aware of where my meat comes from, still gonna eat it without feeling bad in the least. That said, wasting meat does piss me off since something had to die to feed you. Respect that.

This is what I teach my kids. Right on.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
Stopped to get oil at Advance and the guy in front of me in line was complaining about how we are headed to some sort of theoretical future where you have to scan your ID to buy anything, even milk.

:psyduck:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Nodoze posted:

Stopped to get oil at Advance and the guy in front of me in line was complaining about how we are headed to some sort of theoretical future where you have to scan your ID to buy anything, even milk.

:psyduck:

Don't do drugs kids.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Gentlemen, I have a question to ask.

Where do you stand on the idea of eating meat? I, right now am eating a delicious burger consisting of both cow and pig. It is wonderful. A friend of mine won't eat anywhere which serves halal meat because she doesn't believe that an animal should suffer before it's killed.

...but she'll happily eat an animal anyway assuming it's killed 'humanely'. I'm not entirely sure it's possible to murder something humanely, the act in itself is inhumane.

Thoughts?

I don't eat meat.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I do eat meat.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:


Not that you can tell from my username, but I pimp meat.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I eat food.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Nodoze posted:

Stopped to get oil at Advance and the guy in front of me in line was complaining about how we are headed to some sort of theoretical future where you have to scan your ID to buy anything, even milk.

:psyduck:

Isn't this some book-of-revelations poo poo that people idiots take too literally?

IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST! I DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHAT I BUY!

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

sidewalk gum posted:

Citation needed.

Work on a farm. Its amazing just how much water, fertilizer, time and resources it takes to farm the most basic plants for consumption. In comparison a sheep is a fluffy thing a farmer does a quick check on and moves on. Until lambing season and thats mainly vet time.

Cattle so take more resourses than sheep but again mostly they roam the paddock eat and poo poo. Factory farmed beef is different of course and is the basis of claims of resource hungry beef farming is. Out in the sunlight..... yeah well if you have regular rain and ground that can grow grass you can farm animals quite well with low resource requirements.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Work on a farm. Its amazing just how much water, fertilizer, time and resources it takes to farm the most basic plants for consumption.

According to a UN study (published in 2012) roughly 33% of all arable land worldwide is used to grow livestock feed. Kind of takes away the argument that "plants are hard to grow but meat is easy" when you have to grow a bunch of plants for the animals that become meat to eat.

In a perfect world all animals raised for slaughter could graze in grassy fields, but that's not the reality of the situation.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Jury Chat: I've been called for jury duty 3 times in my adult life, 2 of the cases were murder trials. The first one I was selected but kicked out in Voir Dire by the defense because my dad had been the county attorney in that county a decade or so before (or so I surmise, because I volunteered the information.) On the second one, I was inches from being selected to see the trial starring Judge Lance Ito (of OJ Simpson fame) but they filled the alternates right before my turn to go up and do the swearing in bit. I was glad because I have a job.

Meat Chat:
Meat is good.

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


I eat meat and vegetables. :smug:

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

Ok then

Dagen H posted:

Blurry puppy! (Banana for scale)


I approve of this page snipe

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



ExplodingSims posted:

I eat meat and vegetables. :smug:

I like to picture my meat eating vegetables. It's basically saying I'm food, but I'm also hungry.

My meats are most enjoyed when smoked.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
My mood was just awful today and I'm convinced it's because my girlfriend put kale in the soup we had for dinner last night.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



scuz posted:

My mood was just awful today and I'm convinced it's because my girlfriend put kale in the soup we had for dinner last night.

:sever:

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