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F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

So I found out today I have $1,500 to spend paramedical practitioners annually through my health benefits. What zany alternative medicine practice should I indulge in?

Edit: page sniped.

scuz posted:

My mood was just awful today and I'm convinced it's because my girlfriend put kale in the soup we had for dinner last night.

Was it just kale and warm water?

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freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Turns out "epc" meant "brake lights not working"

It's bad timing this happened the night a cat ran into the road whilst I was doing 60mph causing me to hit the brakes hard.

Luckily no damages were caused to cars, people or cats.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

scuz posted:

My mood was just awful today and I'm convinced it's because my girlfriend put kale in the soup we had for dinner last night.

What the hell did you do to piss her off that she would go to such extremes?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

1500quidporsche posted:

So I found out today I have $1,500 to spend paramedical practitioners annually through my health benefits. What zany alternative medicine practice should I indulge in?

I'm an unlicensed automotive psychotherapist. If you give me $1500 we can go autocrossing until you feel better.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
kale is great in soup, it's the only time i enjoy it

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Seat Safety Switch posted:

I'm an unlicensed automotive psychotherapist. If you give me $1500 we can go autocrossing until you feel better.

One of my former co-workers at Suncor used his $1500 yearly "physical/mental" health budget on track day fees. It's intention was mountain bikes, etc.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

McTinkerson posted:

One of my former co-workers at Suncor used his $1500 yearly "physical/mental" health budget on track day fees. It's intention was mountain bikes, etc.

That's good news because we insure them and I was planning on doing the exact same thing for karting.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Westie?

I've got a cairn and she's the poo poo.

Mutt. Half Maltese, quarter Pomeranian, quarter Chihuahua.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Geoj posted:

According to a UN study (published in 2012) roughly 33% of all arable land worldwide is used to grow livestock feed. Kind of takes away the argument that "plants are hard to grow but meat is easy" when you have to grow a bunch of plants for the animals that become meat to eat.

In a perfect world all animals raised for slaughter could graze in grassy fields, but that's not the reality of the situation.

Which I admitted is the case

quote:

Cattle so take more resourses than sheep but again mostly they roam the paddock eat and poo poo. Factory farmed beef is different of course and is the basis of claims of resource hungry beef farming is. Out in the sunlight..... yeah well if you have regular rain and ground that can grow grass you can farm animals quite well with low resource requirements.

Factory farming is loving awful and in fact produces worse quality produce in awful conditions. Your weather is also variable so farmers might have to have grainfeed when natural feed is low. However - and this is where the UN report doesnt highlight - feed grain is either grain that has failed human consumption testing (There is a gently caress load of that), grown in another paddock that the cattle arent in at that point in time etc (and usually, the animals are moved into the paddock to consume whats left after harvest), all of which is added into the UN report and thence as per much like any UN report fails to tell the full story. Most ariable land is dual use - so just saying there's 1/3rd of ariable land just used for livestock feed really isnt telling the story at all.

All of which is not denying how hosed up factory farming in mostly Europe / USA / China truly is... because holy gently caress is it ever. And the crops used for feed is usually fertilized with the remains of factory farmed animals as well - Blood and Bone is a fantastic fertilizer. Basically, the only way to escape and eat anything - either plant based or animal based - that is resonably cruelty free is to eat free range meat that has been stunned before slaughter and plant matter that hasnt had the ground up remains of a slaughterhouse dumped on them.

Halal certification is exactly like Kosher and in fact true Halal puts an emphasis on reducing animal suffering. Basically tho as well as for religious reason for Halal, even the meat not certified is best when an animal is still alive when they get their throats slashed. It would seem logical to put a bullet in the head, right? Well...... no. Turns out that in the act of dying with any way other than a throat slash, the animal will express a lot of hormones and chemicals that will make the meat tougher and taste worse and also with the heart stopped, the bleed just doesnt work as well. We have generally accepted ways to stun one is a bolt stunner, which keeps the heart beating and also stops the death chemicals until the bleed out occurs. Second - Electronarcosis is usually the method used for the most humane stunning these days, usually on smaller animals.

Well however you want to eat, be it herbivore, carnivore or omnivore, eating is a loving nasty business where something is going to die - and also make no mistake, plants most certainly do react when they are being harvested. For instance, that nice smell that you detect after mowing the grass? That's the plant's distress signal, it's the plants version of DONT EAT ME BRO!!!!!

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

$1500 for 4 Lego Disney Castles. :toot:

I watched last year and Lego sets really went crazy in price as Christmas came around. This set has been going in and out of stock, and the web site has a note that it's going to continue to be limited availability through Christmas. I'm gambling that I'll be able to sell them to some rich dummies that didn't take care of their precious snowflake's desires early enough. :D

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Seminal Flu posted:

$1500 for 4 Lego Disney Castles. :toot:

I watched last year and Lego sets really went crazy in price as Christmas came around. This set has been going in and out of stock, and the web site has a note that it's going to continue to be limited availability through Christmas. I'm gambling that I'll be able to sell them to some rich dummies that didn't take care of their precious snowflake's desires early enough. :D

LEGO is always a good gamble. I made some good money on some Star Wars sets a few years back.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Gentlemen, I have a question to ask.

Where do you stand on the idea of eating meat? I, right now am eating a delicious burger consisting of both cow and pig. It is wonderful. A friend of mine won't eat anywhere which serves halal meat because she doesn't believe that an animal should suffer before it's killed.

...but she'll happily eat an animal anyway assuming it's killed 'humanely'. I'm not entirely sure it's possible to murder something humanely, the act in itself is inhumane.

Thoughts?

Don't even care. I'll kill the drat cow myself if I have to, butchering them's just a huge pain in the rear end. If I had to do all my own butchering, I'd probably end up living on eggs and fish because I'm too lazy to do all that work if I'm not getting paid to do it.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Work on a farm. Its amazing just how much water, fertilizer, time and resources it takes to farm the most basic plants for consumption. In comparison a sheep is a fluffy thing a farmer does a quick check on and moves on. Until lambing season and thats mainly vet time.

Cattle so take more resourses than sheep but again mostly they roam the paddock eat and poo poo. Factory farmed beef is different of course and is the basis of claims of resource hungry beef farming is. Out in the sunlight..... yeah well if you have regular rain and ground that can grow grass you can farm animals quite well with low resource requirements.

Chickens are even easier, your biggest time investment is making sure other stuff doesn't eat them before you do. Other than that as long as you're not battery farming them they'll live on yard bugs and minimal feed.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Oct 13, 2016

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
I like to eat meat. I have raised my own cows in the past, currently raising goats. My wife and I currently have about 20, we just sold off 30 or so and saved a couple weathers for meat. Wife agreed to do the gutting and skinning if I do the killing. So yeah, I know where it comes from and I still eat it.

One thing I think your leaving out or maybe it's done differently in Aus, is the feedlot finish. Most of your US beef is going to spend a couple months in a feedlot getting fed whatever grain and byproduct (soybean mostly) the feedlot owner can find to put weight/fat on before slaughtering. The other 15 months of its life are usually grazing somewhere with its mother. So it's kind of a mix. They spend some time on grass and a short while on grain. Slaughter here is a squeeze chute followed by a captive bolt. Supposedly the squeeze chute helps to calm them. Afterwards they get lifted by the hind legs and bled from the throat. Its grotesque but works well. By comparison the ones that my grandfather slaughtered in my youth were pretty tough.

So I have been renting one car a week for the last 5 weeks. Got a Canadian market Golf TSi today, and I can see why people don't like DSGs. The sonata I had a couple weeks back was smoother.

stump
Jan 19, 2006

I have ethical and sustainability concerns about eating meat and dairy, but not enough to put me off consuming it. In an ideal world I would eat less meat, and only eat stuff that comes from known sources, but :effort: It isn't a high priority for me.

I couldn't care less about Halal or Kosher meat. If you complain about that but still eat factory farmed meat (which you inevitably are if you are eating out) you are a hypocrite and a xenophobe.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Meat is awesome. There's all sorts of studies (funded by meat eaters) that show how animal protein is better for your brain than that sissy plant poo poo.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I don't give a poo poo because the planet is hosed regardless how many cows fart

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
I only eat chicken and pork.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





October is officially the best month.

Vacation report - Arrived and went to dinner with a 35 y.o. chick (I'm 51 for reference) from Honduras who is maybe 4'10" in heels. I met her last month on the last day I was in San Diego and she said she'd like to hang out next time I was in town.

Turns out that apparently Honduran girls don't actually need to sleep. I got more exercise in a week than in the last year I think, and I did not do a single thing I had planned to do on vacation.

Also, I am home and almost completely unable to move. Every single muscle in my body is aching and stiff.

Best vacation ever.

:v:

alternate.eago
Jul 19, 2006
Insert randomness here.
^^ that's awesome!

Meat chat: my dad made me help him butcher deer for his friends when I was younger, so I have done it. I don't enjoy it. But I love eating meat. The gutting and skinning is the part I hate, other than that, I'm good with processing meat. I have a general idea where it came from and how it got here, but I prefer not to think about it.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


That sickening pop as a bolt snaps as you're tightening it is something special. Its also 11pm and anywhere with replacements is closed. I have work at noon. Say gently caress it and drive it with 7 of the 8? I mean, its how the front valve cover is currently rollin'.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Meat chat: I like meat. Fish is good too. Having live seafood on the plate though I cannot do as I found out earlier this year. It would've helped slightly if the death convulsions of a squid didn't involve their pigment spots going haywire. :(

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cop Porn Popper posted:

That sickening pop as a bolt snaps as you're tightening it is something special. Its also 11pm and anywhere with replacements is closed. I have work at noon. Say gently caress it and drive it with 7 of the 8? I mean, its how the front valve cover is currently rollin'.

Got any gorilla tape?

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Rhyno posted:

Got any gorilla tape?

I may just smear some red rtv on the outside of the intake manifold gasket. One of the outside bolts popped, but that thing is held down tight. Tired of loving with this lovely motor, gently caress my cheapass 3/8ths in/lb torque wrench.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
When I tore the Civic apart he first time I busted a stud on the intake side of the head. Rather than gently caress with it I used a shitload of RTV and never had any issues.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Bead of red rtv it is. Gonna get a nice performance boost cuz its red too! :smugdog:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Bead of red rtv it is. Gonna get a nice performance boost cuz its red too! :smugdog:

You should paint parts of the engine red!

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

The asshat previous owner of my mates new engine in his landcruiser snapped an exhaust stud off and glued it back into the manifold with RTV...


In other news, its amazing how quiet a car can be when the 3" exhaust actually goes all the way to the tailgate rather than under the rear passenger floor. The exhaust on the red hilux broke in half and i've spent the afternoon welding it back together again.



Poor old girl has the cancer in the plenum chamber and doors now. Legacy of being parked under trees and 24 years of offroad use.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

RillAkBea posted:

Meat chat: I like meat. Fish is good too. Having live seafood on the plate though I cannot do as I found out earlier this year. It would've helped slightly if the death convulsions of a squid didn't involve their pigment spots going haywire. :(

I get sick if I eat any normal amount of fish which made visiting Japan tricky as they seem to use fish in every broth :[

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Rhyno posted:

You should paint parts of the engine red!

I plan on it! As soon as I confirm its no longer smoking enough to make people think I'm rolling coal on startup. :v

Plugs were at 0.065 for gap, recommended is 0.44, oil in literally everything with several rotted vacuum lines including the pcv hose. Pcv valve itself was drenched in oil, oil standing in the ridges of the accordion tube, oil coating the intake gaskets, oil coating the throttle body and oil coating the inside of every intake runner. Its got new vacuum lines, new pcv valve, new plugs (that I forgot to check the gap on), new coils on the back side and new gaskets. gently caress you lovely previous owner, gently caress you. And gimmie the loving radio you shitbag.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

1500quidporsche posted:

So I found out today I have $1,500 to spend paramedical practitioners annually through my health benefits. What zany alternative medicine practice should I indulge in?
Serious answer? Find a legit RMT and get massages. Lots and lots of massages. I haven't for a while but drat, an hour long massage from someone who knows what they are doing is a fantastic thing and can become as addictive as crack.

It seems to be hard to find a good RMT that isn't on the acupuncture bullshit bandwagon. Mine also practices acupuncture but I told her to not bother, luckily she didn't ask me why because I don't want to insult her. I think she just believes I'm scared of needles or something :v

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

CharlesM posted:

I get sick if I eat any normal amount of fish which made visiting Japan tricky as they seem to use fish in every broth :[

Yeah, unfortunately dashi (the traditional fish stock) is one of the core seasonings of Japanese food. I somehow know a couple of people who are trying to keep to a vegetarian diet over here and I have no idea how they do it because if something doesn't have secret fish, it's probably got secret meat.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

RillAkBea posted:

Yeah, unfortunately dashi (the traditional fish stock) is one of the core seasonings of Japanese food. I somehow know a couple of people who are trying to keep to a vegetarian diet over here and I have no idea how they do it because if something doesn't have secret fish, it's probably got secret meat.

I worked with a guy once who is a vegetarian and did a lot of business in Japan in the 80s. He has a story about visiting a bank and the CEO came down and interrupted their meeting so he "could see what a vegetarian looked like."

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



RillAkBea posted:

Yeah, unfortunately dashi (the traditional fish stock) is one of the core seasonings of Japanese food. I somehow know a couple of people who are trying to keep to a vegetarian diet over here and I have no idea how they do it because if something doesn't have secret fish, it's probably got secret meat.

My vegetarian friend says you have to ask for "Buddhist food" but yeah at the end of the day you'll probably be kind of screwed in general.

Dashi is so drat good though...

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



I wasn't even thinking of Fish when we were talking about sustainable food. Fish is one of the few food things I get :sperg: about. I won't eat any Atlantic Cod (even though it is possibly the most delicious fish ever) because the populations numbers are so low that there really isn't any sustainable way to eat it. Cod grow so slowly and spawn so few that it'll take many more decades to get their population back up to levels where "sustainable" commercial fishing would work. Any cod hauled out now just makes that timeline longer.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
the whole world is going to be overfished really really bad in 20 years or less. eat it up while you can.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

slidebite posted:

Serious answer? Find a legit RMT and get massages. Lots and lots of massages. I haven't for a while but drat, an hour long massage from someone who knows what they are doing is a fantastic thing and can become as addictive as crack.

It seems to be hard to find a good RMT that isn't on the acupuncture bullshit bandwagon. Mine also practices acupuncture but I told her to not bother, luckily she didn't ask me why because I don't want to insult her. I think she just believes I'm scared of needles or something :v

This is what I'm leaning towards since the list of stuff I'd be able to try without laughing is pretty thin, I went a couple times this year after I got bruised up pretty bad in my kart but I agree that it's difficult to find one that isn't ready to preach to you about "the healing power of crystals". I probably would've gone more had I known that I have such a high maximum.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Leaving the house this AM I couldn't find my wallet. In a bit of a panic I look in my truck (which was parked on the street) and there it was, plainly visible on the passenger seat. I felt a little sick in my stomach because my whole life is in that thing along with a few hundred in cash. My truck got rummaged through once before so I feel like I dodged a bit of bullet there.

I need to make it a point of laying eyes on my wallet at the same time as I hit lock on my key chain as I go to bed until it becomes a habit.

1500quidporsche posted:

This is what I'm leaning towards since the list of stuff I'd be able to try without laughing is pretty thin, I went a couple times this year after I got bruised up pretty bad in my kart but I agree that it's difficult to find one that isn't ready to preach to you about "the healing power of crystals". I probably would've gone more had I known that I have such a high maximum.
I'll talk to mine down here and ask her if she has any friends/colleagues in YYC that she can recommend that isn't going to try and get you to align your chakras or something.

E for Fish talk: Is Halibut sustainable or am I playing a part in the destruction of the ocean by having some every couple of months?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

beep-beep car is go posted:

I wasn't even thinking of Fish when we were talking about sustainable food. Fish is one of the few food things I get :sperg: about. I won't eat any Atlantic Cod (even though it is possibly the most delicious fish ever) because the populations numbers are so low that there really isn't any sustainable way to eat it. Cod grow so slowly and spawn so few that it'll take many more decades to get their population back up to levels where "sustainable" commercial fishing would work. Any cod hauled out now just makes that timeline longer.

When I was in Boston recently I had a broiled Cod dinner and it was the best dinner I've had in a long time. And I live in Florida where there's a seafood restaurant on every corner. There's just something about cold water seafood that beats the poo poo out of the seafood down here.

That being said, Red Snapper from the Gulf is a godsend and is getting over fished as well, fish prices here are getting ridiculous :(

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

slidebite posted:

Leaving the house this AM I couldn't find my wallet. In a bit of a panic I look in my truck (which was parked on the street) and there it was, plainly visible on the passenger seat. I felt a little sick in my stomach because my whole life is in that thing along with a few hundred in cash. My truck got rummaged through once before so I feel like I dodged a bit of bullet there.

I need to make it a point of laying eyes on my wallet at the same time as I hit lock on my key chain as I go to bed until it becomes a habit.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




It's an interesting paradox that nobody who has a chain on their wallet actually has anything worth stealing in said wallet.

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