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U-DO Burger posted:Holy poo poo Mug Bloodlust is amazing and turns your thief into a DPS machine. I can't wait to hone this sucker Yeah, I'm overjoyed whenever I can bring it. Speaking of 6* skills, is it really recommended to use the job motes from 5 Dooms to acquire copies of the 6* skills for shattering? I still have yet to really touch 6* skills since I'm not certain which ones are worth investing in atm (aside from Bloodlust; I want to R2 that ASAP), and honing them to R2 seems out of reach for now. Still, I wouldn't mind having something like Northern Cross kicking around, just in case.
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It's the objective best thing to do with them, at least until the far flung future when crystals aren't a complete and utter ballbashing nightmare to get more than you can count on one hand per event... but I think the only skills you can definitely get enough crystals for with just the motes from the event are R2 Lifebane( ) and R2 Aegis ().Also for the U++ talk; Stomps are not ITD. So Protectga is still a very good thing. It's just his magic that is a volley of infinite resistance ignoring. (Incidentally, if you're a long time player and still having problems; His magic's all fire, because... because. If you've got the gear to resist that up without it costing you a lot, it's a good way to really hurt his offense at a low cost.)
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I think I can beat the U+ dragon zombie fight if I do the build-up-SB-and-mythril-continue trick. How do I get the most out of my continue? If I move all my characters to the back row for the SB-building run, then continue, then flee and move my attackers into the front row, do I lose the continue bonus?
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CaptainPsyko posted:Magic Breakdance, Full Breakdance and everyone in the back row should be more than enough mitigation to keep all of his hits manageable. Power Breakdance can help if Stamp Out is wrecking you. An auto Haste on your healer isn't a bad idea. Hastega is not going to help much. Nope. I did it with hastega before and no dances, I was able to keep healing up but his aoe's were not manageable. Without hastega and the dances, the aoe's were more than survivable, but when your healer can only heal one dude in-between aoes, you loose people fast. So I'm doing both, and having vincent use both charges of the rw. Seriously, hastega is a huge part of the trinity. Haste is not an easy piece of the trinity to ditch, not at this level. At the very least, my healers absolutely need it as well as my one damage dealer. Edit: I ran out of hope's bsb rw'ers so I guess I'll have yo wait until tomorrow to finish this. I kept getting to the last 50k or so before being killed, so this should be simple now.
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Sprite141 posted:Nope. I did it with hastega before and no dances, I was able to keep healing up but his aoe's were not manageable. Without hastega and the dances, the aoe's were more than survivable, but when your healer can only heal one dude in-between aoes, you loose people fast. So I'm doing both, and having vincent use both charges of the rw. I'll say this one last time. Your healer can use an auto haste RM. They are good and work five. Burst mode grants haste to your damage dealer(s). I'm not disputing the value of haste. I am disputing the value of AOE haste given the other tools this strategy requires.
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Zurai posted:For those considering spending all your mythril on the Celes/Locke banners in next week's event in Japan, don't forget that we're getting a World of Final Fantasy cross-promotion event with new characters and new relics for those characters the following week. As a reminder, the last two times an event has introduced a pair of new characters for a brand new realm, we got the first FF14 banner and the first FFT banner. I expect them to push the envelope again for WoFF. Hell, even if they give it the respect the Mobius banners did, it'd be great. Wol and Echo aren't the greatest characters, but their flaws aren't in their relics, in the slightest.
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Yeah, I just didn't feel like I was missing anything by bringing Haste instead of a hastega. Burst already hastes the two damage dealers, and I could pretty casually just cycle Haste and Multi Break on Cait Sith the entire battle. 
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Edly posted:I think I can beat the U+ dragon zombie fight if I do the build-up-SB-and-mythril-continue trick. How do I get the most out of my continue? If I move all my characters to the back row for the SB-building run, then continue, then flee and move my attackers into the front row, do I lose the continue bonus? Yes, you'll lose the bonus if you leave the fight.
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CaptainPsyko posted:I'll say this one last time. Ok so something you don't know because I didn't say it, but I was using a very low mind synergy shared cure medica item. I kinda needed it, but with very low mind due to not having a good mind weapon, my healer had desert blossom equipped as her rm. With desert blossom and like 370 mind, it only did a 1.4k heal, so I wasn't gonna unequip it. And yeah, I was gonna put haste and a haste rm on my second healer. turns out it's unessesary as my latest setup is far superior to what either of us were doing. I mean reno's damage was poo poo anyway, why not lower it a tad and bring protega + hastega? Now I just need to find another hope bsb rw.
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Zurai posted:For those considering spending all your mythril on the Celes/Locke banners in next week's event in Japan, don't forget that we're getting a World of Final Fantasy cross-promotion event with new characters and new relics for those characters the following week. As a reminder, the last two times an event has introduced a pair of new characters for a brand new realm, we got the first FF14 banner and the first FFT banner. I expect them to push the envelope again for WoFF. And we're almost certain to get a FFXV event in late November/early December, and I'd be shocked if it wasn't an excellent banner. So again, might be worth saving up mythril. Edly posted:I think I can beat the U+ dragon zombie fight if I do the build-up-SB-and-mythril-continue trick. How do I get the most out of my continue? If I move all my characters to the back row for the SB-building run, then continue, then flee and move my attackers into the front row, do I lose the continue bonus? Have you tried the hit and run tactic? That's where you put a white magic spring RM on your healer, go into the fight and have everyone do one attack and your healer cast curaja, and then flee. Repeat over and over to build up SB charges. Costs no mythril, and since you're fleeing between fight there's no problem moving people to the front row when you're done.
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Schwartzcough posted:It's 6 single-target wind hits, attach wind, and a higher multiplier depending on the number of 5* dragoons in the party. They keep trying to push this "party of dragoons" angle, but dragoons get almost no ability diversity. I mean, they're better than monks, but as far as I know there's no White 4, Support 5, or other important skillsets on a dragoon. That said, it should be functional without any other dragoons. I don't know the multiplier but enaero is a huge boost.
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IcePhoenix posted:(do Hope's BSB commands even count as summon attacks?) Hope's BSB commands are black magic and they work with the "chance of black magic casting twice" RM. It's satisfying as gently caress when it procs.
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Speaking of U+ Dragon Zombie woes, I find myself struggling to keep up around phase two or three. When I took a hiatus six months ago I had utterly ridiculous levels of high-end VII stuff that is probably slightly less high-end now. What I'm trying now: Sephiroth - Flashing Blade, that one AoE Fire samurai ability, +20%ATK w/ Sap (has Black Materia) Cloud - Lifesiphon, Fira Strike, +Soul Gauge/action (has Fenrir Overdrive) Ramza - Full Break, Power Breakdown, +Soul Gauge/action (has Tailwind) Lenna - Shellga, Curaja, Start SB (has Flames of War and Princess' Favor) Y'shtola - Magic Breakdown, Diaga, Start SB (has SSII) Previous attempts have included Tifa with Waterkick and Burning Arrow and I also have LH; I also wasn't quite sure what RW to take with that setup. (Not everyone is at their max level and no one has any Sphere skills.) Any suggestions? I'm pretty sure I can get through this
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AweStriker posted:Speaking of U+ Dragon Zombie woes, I find myself struggling to keep up around phase two or three. When I took a hiatus six months ago I had utterly ridiculous levels of high-end VII stuff that is probably slightly less high-end now.
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AweStriker posted:Speaking of U+ Dragon Zombie woes, I find myself struggling to keep up around phase two or three. When I took a hiatus six months ago I had utterly ridiculous levels of high-end VII stuff that is probably slightly less high-end now. What are you bringing as a RW? If Lenna's Flames of War are enough to take you up to the attack softcap, you should probably bring a good medica (I'm thinking one with magic blink to use just before you kill two of the dragons, to nullify their Pandora's Boxes). If you're not doing enough damage, you might want to go with Shout and bring a healer with another medica or something. If you go that route, you might put the [Start with SB] RM on Ramza, so you can use Tailwind early and get Protectga up. WIth Wall, Protectga, Shellga, Full Break, the breakdowns, and two medicas, you should be able to weather a lot of punishment. Other than that it's general strategy stuff. If you have a stronger single-target option for Sephiroth than Flashing Blade (or another lifesiphon), do that. Preferably you want to do as much damage to the third one as possible with SBs so you don't get countered into the ground. Edit: Panic! at Nabisco posted:What are you RWing? If you have Flames of War and are using it, you can maybe forego Shout and RW a Pencil/Hope/Garnet/Beatrix BSB for holy smackdown. Or that. Celes too, which gives +30 ATK/mag and holy-based spellblade bursts. I brought Celes', but my problem was I was doing damage too fast, and I couldn't get all the breaks and re-up mitigation in time while dealing with all their AoE death counters and such. I think taking this battle conservatively is the way to go. Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Schwartzcough posted:What are you bringing as a RW? If Lenna's Flames of War are enough to take you up to the attack softcap, you should probably bring a good medica (I'm thinking one with magic blink to use just before you kill two of the dragons, to nullify their Pandora's Boxes). If you're not doing enough damage, you might want to go with Shout and bring a healer with another medica or something. If you go that route, you might put the [Start with SB] RM on Ramza, so you can use Tailwind early and get Protectga up. WIth Wall, Protectga, Shellga, Full Break, the breakdowns, and two medicas, you should be able to weather a lot of punishment. The most recent attempt I brought a Hope BSB. I was hoping for more damage than it actually seemed to be getting me. An MBlink medica is not something I'd considered, and I was struggling with healing so it sounds like the way to go.
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Schwartzcough posted:Have you tried the hit and run tactic? That's where you put a white magic spring RM on your healer, go into the fight and have everyone do one attack and your healer cast curaja, and then flee. Repeat over and over to build up SB charges. Costs no mythril, and since you're fleeing between fight there's no problem moving people to the front row when you're done. Thanks for the tip, that would be my first choice but I don't have the magic spring RM. I spent all my growth eggs on unlocking Mako Might so I'm tapped out for now.
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Edly posted:Thanks for the tip, that would be my first choice but I don't have the magic spring RM. I spent all my growth eggs on unlocking Mako Might so I'm tapped out for now. Bummer. Depending on how far you are, you might want to just level up Fusoya instead of the core White and Black mages (in the future, not necessarily right now). Fusoya's RM2 works as both a black magic and a white magic spring, and he's a real character you could actually use instead of core garbage.
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Schwartzcough posted:Bummer. Depending on how far you are, you might want to just level up Fusoya instead of the core White and Black mages (in the future, not necessarily right now). Fusoya's RM2 works as both a black magic and a white magic spring, and he's a real character you could actually use instead of core garbage. On the other hand, BLM RM2 and WHM RM2 are guaranteed stage drops, not random. If you have them level broken, you can get them at any time.
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Had to mythril some SB gauge for the U+, but boy did it make the fight a lot easier to be able to blink out of every single shadow flare and dreamstage the pandora's boxes' damage (and thus have blink ready for the shadow flares). And I still lost two medals for damage taken. No one died though, so mastery it was! The worst part of wall is how a lot of things seem tuned towards having it native. Couldn't it have just been +100% instead?  Maybe after tonight though...maybe... Time to initiate the U++ plan. E: I guess full synergy 5* armor would work too in place of wall. But I don't have that either!
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AweStriker posted:The most recent attempt I brought a Hope BSB. I was hoping for more damage than it actually seemed to be getting me. Do you have a mage with darkness access? If so, you can give them Firaga/ja and Memento Mori, Devotion (Or Attunement II if you have it, or any of the other RMs like it that boost MAG) and then use Hope's RW -- if you do that, you'll pretty much shave off 40-50% of his HP every command.
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Those target MAG numbers for the Hope BSB on U++ seem to be pre-buff numbers. With all that stuff in my last post, Celes plus the BSB opener only ekes out about 230-250k damage vs closed state total. 5.3k * 4 per command plus the opening. Yuffie can hit for about 5k per veil though, so I can probably pull this through in the burst timeframe with a bit of work and possibly exposing the core when people aren't busy curing/dancing. Or making Multibreak when I get a few more major dark orbs. That might put the burst alone over the finish line. Worst case I can probably pre-charge a couple SB charges and blow it up with physical A-team. The damage doesn't seem too extreme since it's half defense piercing and my defense is all terrible anyway. Kylra fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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Thanks to Typo Mythril I now have enough to pull on Eiko 1.  Which, I just noticed, has an Imperil Holy BSB on it. When I have four other Holy elemental BSBs. I could make an entire team of Holy Light destroying all.
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Bored waiting for Eiko's event to pop tonight, so I decided to start making my Christmas wishlist for relics on global. What are the top 5 relics in the coming months/banners that you are looking forward to most? List time (yay)! - Y'shtola's Healer's Circlet | BSB Asylum (This beauty has gotten me out of a ton of bad scrapes, and is just so, so good. Also I really like Y'shtola from my XIV days, so that's a bonus.) - Orlandeau's Sword Saint's Excalibur | OSB Thundergod (This one has turned into my white whale, of sorts. 200 mythril down and still no luck.) - Tidus's Apocalypse | OSB Energy Rain (I have Razzmatazz, so this on top of it would be just friggin' rad.) - Onion Knight's Onion Gauntlets | BSB Warrior of the Prophecy (Started too late in JPN to get this first go around, missed during the anniversary festival, hope I get lucky global side.) - Alphinaud's Veil of Wiyu | BSB Aerial Blast (Rechargeable summons with a serviceable element, along with the impressive Tiamat summon? Yes, please. The other relic I've swung for and missed both times.)
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Question for JP people: Does OK's mage SB come back on anything? OK 2 is a dismal banner compared to OK 1, but I love the hell out of that attack+percentage medica for a mage team that can't fit Ramza into it.
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New upcoming items? Hamelin Healer's Circlet Blood Sword Magical Brush After that I dunno. E: Give me all the medicas.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Question for JP people: Does OK's mage SB come back on anything? OK 2 is a dismal banner compared to OK 1, but I love the hell out of that attack+percentage medica for a mage team that can't fit Ramza into it. It came back on the recent dungeon update draw in Jp
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Schwartzcough posted:And we're almost certain to get a FFXV event in late November/early December, and I'd be shocked if it wasn't an excellent banner. So again, might be worth saving up mythril. On a side note, I wonder what FF games they could use for content in the future? XV might become a Realm dungeon at some point. The only other FF game I think they could possibly make a Realm out of would be Crystal Chronicles, and I'd be surprised if they didn't do an event based on that at some point. Mystic Quest would be nice but I don't think it'll happen. Tactics Advance/A2 would probably just use FFT synergy, like how XIII-2/3 and X-2 used XIII and X synergy. This also means they probably won't do Realm dungeons based on those. I guess they could also do Dimensions, and they'll probably do Type-0 at some point too, and that's really it I think if they wanted to add more Realms, unless they did something crazy like Chocobo's Dungeon. They could do a Brave Exvius event I guess, but I figure if they were going to do that they would have by now. And for crossover events, they could always do the Chrono games or Bravely Default, which would be neat. Or hey, maybe we'll get events based on Spirits Within, Unlimited and Legend of the Crystals. 
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Twelve by Pies posted:Bravely Default, which would be neat. If they were gonna do Bravely, they would have done it when Bravely Second came out last year, I'd think.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Legend of the Crystals Please god no, if I drew the inevitable panty flash soul break I would have to straight up kill myself. 
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I have 91 mythril and I can't decide if I want to 11 pull on Eiko 1 or Larsa 1 (50 is reserved for Eiko 2 so I can't do both). Or I guess I could pull on neither and save for something in the future but I don't know what's coming up.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Tactics Advance/A2 would probably just use FFT synergy, like how XIII-2/3 and X-2 used XIII and X synergy. This also means they probably won't do Realm dungeons based on those. The real question is will they decide to give us Marche/Montblanc before or after they start scraping the FFT named-character barrel with, say, Rafa and Malak? EDIT: actual edit moved to its own post KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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The REAL real question is when they will fix the glitch of Cloud not having FFT Synergy
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KataraniSword posted:The real question is will they decide to give us Marche/Montblanc before or after they start scraping the FFT named-character barrel with, say, Rafa and Malak? I'd be okay with that if they gave us more non-human characters, like Reis' Holy Dragon form, or Worker 8. IcePhoenix posted:The REAL real question is when they will fix the glitch of Cloud not having FFT Synergy Aerith too!
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IcePhoenix posted:I have 91 mythril and I can't decide if I want to 11 pull on Eiko 1 or Larsa 1 I personally feel like Larsa 1 has better relics but also slightly worse relics? It's a bigger gamble than Eiko 1, where the worst you can get that's actually on the banner is Excalibur IX. Larsa 1 has Strahl Strafe and both Ashe/Vaan BSBs, but unless you have Ashe's BSB or one of Lightning's many same-elemental bursts, Fran's Imperil-based SSB2 is slightly worse than her full-break SSB and Gabranth's armor is Physical Dark which...  It's good, but it's not amazing.That said, I'd personally roll Larsa 1 over Eiko 1, just because my 9 synergy is better than my 12 and Strahl Strafe would be really, really nice to have what with Meltdown existing and all.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Or hey, maybe we'll get events based on Spirits Within, Unlimited and Legend of the Crystals. Isn't one of those just FF5 after Exdeath's been beaten? In any event, besides FFXV coming out, there's still a half-dozen FFXI expansions to work through, as well as FFXIV. They could even throw FFXIV 1.0 content in there, since that part of the game's history is otherwise lost to time. IcePhoenix posted:The REAL real question is when they will fix the glitch of Cloud not having FFT Synergy It should be that you can have either Balthier or Cloud get synergy in FFT, but not both at the same time.
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I've been back and forth on Larsa 1, since Ashe's BSB would be really nice to have and Strahl Strafe owns, but I already have Ark Blast. With all the good stuff coming up though (and Ashe's BSB recurring on a really amazing OSBfest banner, if it isn't changed) I'm probably gonna give it a pass, but it'll hurt.
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