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That drat Satyr posted:Shocking, I know right? Clearly that invalidates this entire years long hellish misery that an insane psychopath has drug me through. It doesn't invalidate it, but it's funny that it's happened to you, a person who draws furry porn
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I mean I'm not a monster, I have sympathy for you despite only having skimmed your incredibly long post about your sad feud with another bizarre furry porn fetish person, and I do wish you the best of luck. But your fetish is funny
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Been slowly reading the thread from the start, and once I got to pg170 or so where we had a lot of parachute talk, it reminded me of a mystery that took a few months or so to clear up, that was told to me back when it was current. At the time I'd assumed it was an urban legend rather than current news. It's still unnerving even after the truth came out, but at the time it was seriously creepy. Long/short, on 21 September 2002 at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force had a training jump for some of their airborne guys (note that parachuting is way less common in the Marines than the Army). They start bailing out at 1,250 feet... and swiftly notice that the first three guys to jump out all deployed their reserve chute. So the jumpmaster immediately canks the rest of the exercise and they land with the rest of the stick. They have all the remaining guys take off their chutes for inspection, and 13 of the 22 parachutes from that day's exercise had been expertly tampered, with the lines cut in a way that would positively cause the chute to fail, and would be unnoticeable without unpacking the entire chute. The three who made it down on their reserve chutes (and military reserve chutes have a high failure rate apparently) were injured but survived. Not to give further life to rumor, but when I heard the story verbally, and I've seen mentioned on some online forums (so it could be just an embellishment that caught on), when they checked the logbook where the "riggers" (professional parachute packers) enter the serial numbers of the chutes they packed that day, the tampered chutes were all signed "Mickey Mouse", and they weren't able to match the handwriting to any of the riggers. Eventually an investigation hauled in three riggers, one of whom was acquitted early, another had tampering charges dismissed a year later but had coincidentally gotten caught on some cocaine charges. Ultimately they hung the whole crime on a Lance Corporal (rank just above privates) who apparently was upset because he'd been punished and demoted for coming back late from leave, and somehow thought that potentially murdering a dozen people. The kid is serving 20 years in military prison, with guidance from his pastor to team up with fellow Christians in prison to reinforce his faith, and get his college degree(s) done so he can be a productive member of society when he gets out someday. It's creepy enough as a story now, but at the time it was fresh news, where there was a risk we'd never know the solution, it was hella freaky. Semi-personal story, but another one that's creepy in hindsight but was spine-tingling at the time: I recall clearly in Iraq in 2003 during the initial invasion, as we were working our way around the city of Nasiriyah in southern Iraq, word spread quickly that an entire tank had disappeared into thin air. An M1 Abrams called The Hermes, with a crew of four, had just vanished while maneuvering through Nasiriyah during poor visibility in a sandstorm. The tank behind her had lost sight of her for a moment, then saw another tank further ahead and thought it was the Hermes and that they'd just fallen behind on the pace, so scooted to catch up and nobody noticed the gap in the convoy for a while. No distress calls, no pings on GPS/Blueforce, no sudden unexplained explosions, just disappeared out of a formation. You can imagine at the time this was incredibly disconcerting and mysterious. The answer, fortunately, turned up before too long, and it keeping with the general civilian rules about when a vehicle disappears with everyone inside it. Turns out The Hermes had tried to go across a partially-completed bridge, and the 60-ton tank slid off of it and ended up upside-down sunk into the mud of the Euphrates river, in 20 feet of water. Divers eventually recovered the bodies, and put to rest any rumors that it was an amazing sniper shot that took out the driver, as all the bodies had no injury other than what you'd expect from falling off a bridge and drowning inside a tank. So freaky stuff, but at least the solution turned out being sad but straightforward: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-31-tanks-crew-cover_x.htm
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sleppy posted:Chapter 9: A Mean Bird There's another thread in this very subforum where people freaked out for multiple pages about a furry porn art pic in which a dog-man's teeth were all red rocket dog dicks, and guess what. The harassed furry artist in this thread draws stuff like that, every day, lol
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:You can imagine at the time this was incredibly disconcerting and mysterious. The answer, fortunately, turned up before too long, and it keeping with the general civilian rules about when a vehicle disappears with everyone inside it. Turns out The Hermes had tried to go across a partially-completed bridge, and the 60-ton tank slid off of it and ended up upside-down sunk into the mud of the Euphrates river, in 20 feet of water. Divers eventually recovered the bodies, and put to rest any rumors that it was an amazing sniper shot that took out the driver, as all the bodies had no injury other than what you'd expect from falling off a bridge and drowning inside a tank. So freaky stuff, but at least the solution turned out being sad but straightforward: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-31-tanks-crew-cover_x.htm Both of these are hosed up, but this loving freaks me out. So the crew spent the remaining moments of their lives panicking and slowly choking to death on water. God drowning is loving awful.
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Solice Kirsk posted:How does it pay? I hear it can be good money if you have a high tolerance for drama and are willing to draw the really kinky poo poo.
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That drat Satyr posted:Not as much as it should, based on how some people react to it. But oh well. I recommend getting a patreon.
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We lost a B25 in Pittsburgh in the 60's from a similar accident. Fell into the river and was never recovered, still gone to this day, some of the crew managed to swim to shore or boats, some didn't.
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Not to mention the nuclear bomb that is still sunk in a swamp in Georgia or something. It's been posted here a few times. When will the government realize they need to make everything float?
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speaking of furries, remember like 12-14 years ago when SA used to self-define as a site that would harass and mock those on the social fringes, and then like 8-10 years ago we all started to realise that every goon here was also a loving weirdo but we'd just developed an "us vs them" mentality so the irony had been lost on us the whole time? for years there was a marked lack of critical thinking applied to the people spending dozens of hours making and maintaining war and peace-length posts on the internet mocking whichever weird subculture flavour of the week. and then, as all the forum superstars hit their fall from fame, it all starts to come out how broken and hosed up these people are behind the internet extrovert personas. it was great e: had to readjust the numbers, i forgot how long i've been coming to this drat forum Sulla Faex has a new favorite as of 11:46 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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I just finished listening to the Lore podcast, its pretty good and creepy. Now I'm onto Criminal, which is also good. I specifically enjoy how Lore often talks about "supernatural" junk and discusses the actual physical reasons or emotional states that make events seem supernatural. His Dyatlov Pass episode was fun. Can anybody recommend me other podcasts like these?
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:You can imagine at the time this was incredibly disconcerting and mysterious. The answer, fortunately, turned up before too long, and it keeping with the general civilian rules about when a vehicle disappears with everyone inside it. Turns out The Hermes had tried to go across a partially-completed bridge, and the 60-ton tank slid off of it and ended up upside-down sunk into the mud of the Euphrates river, in 20 feet of water. Divers eventually recovered the bodies, and put to rest any rumors that it was an amazing sniper shot that took out the driver, as all the bodies had no injury other than what you'd expect from falling off a bridge and drowning inside a tank. So freaky stuff, but at least the solution turned out being sad but straightforward: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-31-tanks-crew-cover_x.htm Man, that really is hosed up. Re: goons, Ty Peppar killing himself over being banned from Wikipedia isn't quite as awful as punkins or the other murderer goons but infinitely sadder.
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:There's another thread in this very subforum where people freaked out for multiple pages about a furry porn art pic in which a dog-man's teeth were all red rocket dog dicks, and guess what. The harassed furry artist in this thread draws stuff like that, every day, lol I don't actually. I haven't "done" furry art in years except for the odd piece of gift art here or there for a friend. It was something I was into when I was a stupid teenager, but surprise. I grew up. I went to school and got education in graphic design and photography, and photography is my main focus these days. vaguely posted:imo still caring about furries in tyool 2016 is way sadder than being one but oh well Seriously.
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How! posted:I just finished listening to the Lore podcast, its pretty good and creepy. Now I'm onto Criminal, which is also good. I absolutely adore Lore. Good news as well, AMC is turning it into a tv show!
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:speaking of furries, remember like 12-14 years ago when SA used to self-define as a site that would harass and mock those on the social fringes, and then like 8-10 years ago we all started to realise that every goon here was also a loving weirdo but we'd just developed an "us vs them" mentality so the irony had been lost on us the whole time? for years there was a marked lack of critical thinking applied to the people spending dozens of hours making and maintaining war and peace-length posts on the internet mocking whichever weird subculture flavour of the week. and then, as all the forum superstars hit their fall from fame, it all starts to come out how broken and hosed up these people are behind the internet extrovert personas. it was great Wasn't there a hundreds of pages long fetish thread on SA that was immediately shut down when people outside the thread realized it was there?
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With nearly 6 million threads as of posting this, think how many of those threads are still out there waiting to be discovered...
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If a thread is out there and nobody reads it, does it really exist?
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:tl;dr: I'm totally fine with Breivik spending the rest of his life dealing with dinky little issues like console generation and underwear quality, let him look ridiculous instead of being a credible martyr. When anyone argues that *evil person* should have evil things done to them, I think deep down the arguer just really wants to be brutal and has found an acceptable target; it doesn't show their passion for justice, it shows their hunger for brutality finding a palatable excuse. Agreed, I just wish they'd tell him to stuff it and take away his precious toys he complains about so much. Give him the basics (books, bed, toilet, food, general care) and screw anything else because he's never going to "integrate" back into normal society anyways. Dude made his terrible choices and can spend the rest of his days contemplating his sorry existence, just toss him in solitary every time he pisses and moans about his tea being cold.
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I'd rather they throw him an xbox 360 and then publish the letters every time he whinges about it not being an xbone. There's nothing better at killing a martyr than watching him throw temper tantrums like a snivelling teenager for 50 years.
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Need some help finding info on a fairly weird murder that I think was posted in this thread. It took place in 1920s California on a boat. The victim was the boat owner, a eccentric guy who declared himself a "International police officer" or some made up title like that. He and his wife were pretty much roaming around the world and produced some of the first film footage of places like Mongolia. She was a well known explorer in her own right. I want to say a British aristocrat was involved too. I completely forgot the names involved though and google isn't helping.
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Nckdictator posted:Need some help finding info on a fairly weird murder that I think was posted in this thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_H._Ince#Murder_or_natural_death_debate Just googled '1920s boat murder' 
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8 Ball posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_H._Ince#Murder_or_natural_death_debate I vaguely remember what Nckdictator mentioned, and I don't think that this is it. Maybe I'm wrong, though. ed: Found it! Walter and Aloha Wanderwell! http://www.alohawanderwell.com/unsolved-wanderwell-murder-mystery/ http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/who-killed-captain-wanderwell/ Pigsfeet on Rye has a new favorite as of 23:52 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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BOOTY-ADE posted:Agreed, I just wish they'd tell him to stuff it and take away his precious toys he complains about so much. Give him the basics (books, bed, toilet, food, general care) and screw anything else because he's never going to "integrate" back into normal society anyways. Dude made his terrible choices and can spend the rest of his days contemplating his sorry existence, just toss him in solitary every time he pisses and moans about his tea being cold. lol if you think he has that kind of ability for introspection. I honestly don't care if he gets a new console every year as long as he stays locked away. I think the problem is America has such a mixed expectation for prison. It's supposed to punish the offender, but also rehabilitate them, but also keep them locked away from society. We're so schizo about it that we treat all criminals the same, and give college degrees to sociopaths while locking stoners away for years to "think about what they've done." Breivik is beyond redemption, and probably lacks the ability to understand why what he did is wrong besides "it ended with me in here", so lock him away. Don't waste too much money on making him comfortable but don't remove everything but water, food and air in an effort to "make him think about what he's done", because that won't work.
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 News! Update!The Albuquerque Journal submitted a freedom of information request regarding the death of Lorenzo Montoya. This is what has been released to the public. Let’s reset the scene. Read this part of the West Mesa saga for a refresher: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3631148&userid=112779#post459298791  It’s approximately 3am on December 17th, 2006. The bodies of multiple women are years away from being unearthed in the New Mexican desert, and of the bodies discovered, it’s a little less than 2 years since the last of the women found disappeared. Lorenzo Montoya had an hour earlier welcomed Shericka Hill into his trailer at 4000 Blake Southwest. Hill, a 19 year-old prostitute, would not leave the trailer alive.  Shericka’s clothes, driver’s license, and few meager possessions were found in a trash bag in the trunk of a rental car Montoya had. Her body was found next to Montoya’s truck on a stack of wood, her wrists and ankles bound in duct tape. Shericka Hill had been strangled to death with another piece of duct tape found wrapped around her neck, an excessive amount trailing off in a gruesome leash. Her body was wrapped in a comforter. Montoya’s body was found in his driveway, killed by a gunshot wound to the chest, the shooter was Shericka’s boyfriend/pimp.  As police and detectives pieced together the scene, they discovered several disturbing details about the case, but they also discovered several equally disturbing details about Montoya, but the full gravity of the discoveries would not be known to police until a woman and her dog would find a human femur in a stretch of desert three years later. Lorenzo Montoya kept a roll of duct tape by his bed. He also kept a large rolling tool cabinet in his bedroom, stacks of pornography piled on top of it, a safe in his house also stuffed full of pornographic magazines, but Lorenzo Montoya kept a roll of duct tape within reach of his bed.  Receipts from December 16th were found in the home for several blankets and a comforter, adding a sense of premeditation to Shericka’s murder, and investigators had at the time noted that the situation appeared as if this was not Lorenzo Montoya’s first time killing someone. Also found in Montoya’s home was a video camera and several tapes. These tapes contained multiple homemade sex tapes with several prostitutes and presumed prostitutes. Most of the videos were shot with the camera concealed within a babinet in Montoya’s living room, and Police have spent years attempting to track down the women involved. Most have been found, but police are still looking, even though the best evidence suggests that several of the recordings are at this point at least 15 years old, and detectives are still looking for at least two women, and have released nightmarish video stills of them.   The most disturbing detail after the known murder of Shericka Hill is not that a man with a lengthy history of extreme violence was making tapes of himself with prostitutes, or that he had a toolbox and in his bedroom and duct tape on his nightstand, it wasn’t that he had seemingly planned the murder of the next prostitute he was going to have over at his home, it was that on one of his sex tapes, the video stops after an encounter with two unidentified prostitutes, and then on the same tape after a short pause in the video, the video comes back on briefly, and we see a wall inside Montoya’s home. What is heard, innocuous sounds by themselves, is almost worse in our collective imaginations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dZSEY06eyo This video appears to have been shot 5 years before the incident with Shericka Hill means nothing out of context. Given the details we know about the night of December 17 2006, that she was choked and bound in duct tape, and given that all of her personal items were shoved into a trash bag, the video becomes chilling, and indicates strongly what detectives said before- Lorenzo Montoya had killed before.  An excerpt from Shericka's journal found with her belongings In an almost inhumane affront to the desire to close this case or to find more information, the case of the West Mesa Murders remains an open investigation, and Lorenzo Montoya, deceased, remains a main suspect in the case. Frustratingly, there is nothing to draw officially from this latest development. Nothing conclusive, at least. The biggest reason I can think of, and this is purely speculative as the case is still open, is that in no article, no story, no media coverage of the mass grave on the mesa has there ever been a mention that any of the victims had evidence of being bound in duct tape, no clues unearthed with the remains and shared (and plenty was shared) suggests that these women were killed by Lorenzo Montoya. If Montoya is not the West Mesa Killer, his history and this evidence points toward the fact that Montoya likely has disposed of bodies before, and that he has his very own grave or series of graves somewhere in the New Mexico desert. Undiscovered, silent, and waiting.  Montoya's trailer, taken 10/13/16 by me. ------------------ More different news: I learned two days ago that I know someone that worked at the Santa Fe Prison during the riots. We started talking, and he told me a detail that I hadn't heard about regarding the aftermath that absolutely shocked me, and he said he had more details that aren't public knowledge. He asked to read what I wrote and said he wanted to talk more about it after the weekend.
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And here we go again. Excellent posts as usual.
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Been looking forward to another of your effort posts. Thanks Droogie!
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When people say to Keep Albu-quirky, this isn't the type they mean but it's the type I love. Of course we had some other active serial killer. Of course we did. We probably still do, what am I saying?
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"Alright, I'm gonna read the forums for a few minutes and then go to bed. Oh shiiiit, Droogie's back, hey what's this video? Ok I didn't want to sleep anyway."
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Thank you for the fantastic lunch break reading Droogie!
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Lord Zedd-Repulsa posted:When people say to Keep Albu-quirky
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Punkin Spunkin posted:People say that? That's...unsettling Keep Tucs-unsettling.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:People say that? That's...unsettling I saw a bumper stick saying that at the mental health center I used to go to!
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Keep Truth or Consequences Famous for the Large Number of Disappeared Sex Workers and Transients, Plus that Guy with the Torture Dungeon.
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Jack Gladney posted:Keep Truth or Consequences Famous for the Large Number of Disappeared Sex Workers and Transients, Plus that Guy with the Torture Dungeon. Hmmm, doesn't really roll off the tongue though.
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It's usually more recognizable in its abbreviated form, I mean who HASN'T seen a 'KTCFLNDSWT,PGTD' t-shirt?
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