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Twenty years in jail for a clearly mentally ill man who did nothing but write annoying letters and become a nuisance to the courts?
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Sagebrush posted:Twenty years in jail for a clearly mentally ill man who did nothing but write annoying letters and become a nuisance to the courts?
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Oct 14, 2016 20:14
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Clearly I don't know much about SovCits because I assumed they all were just "your laws don't apply to ME" instead of also being like "my laws applies to YOU".
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Oct 14, 2016 20:15
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Mierenneuker posted:Clearly I don't know much about SovCits because I assumed they all were just "your laws don't apply to ME" instead of also being like "my laws applies to YOU". I assume that's the reason they were able to actually give him significant jail time. Those letters he was sending probably amount to blackmail since the laws he was basing them on are completely made up.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:23
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Basebf555 posted:I assume that's the reason they were able to actually give him significant jail time. Those letters he was sending probably amount to blackmail since the laws he was basing them on are completely made up. ... How is that blackmail? What? Also let's compile a list of all crimes that will, on average, net you less time than this guy got for being a nutjob and sending crazy person letters. I'll go first: rape murder torture extortion racketeering hate crimes terrorism embezzlement insurance fraud tax fraud robbery armed robbery AND all of the above combined, if you're a rich well-connected white guy
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Oct 14, 2016 20:27
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This seems like a fairly significant part of the equation:quote:If Lewis' demands were not met, he would file liens against the properties of his victims, according to the U.S. Attorney
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Oct 14, 2016 20:32
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:... How is that blackmail? If you're looking for some sort of argument, you won't get it from me, 20 years is ridiculous. I'm just trying to find the logic in why it was even possible to convict him of anything. If you call someone and say "I know you're cheating on your wife, pay me 1 million dollars or I'll rat you out", that's illegal. So maybe this falls into that category(technically)? I'm obviously just theorizing so no need to jump down my throat about it.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:33
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Jumping down people's throats is what something awful is all about.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:34
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Seems more like extortion than blackmail.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:37
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Atmus posted:Seems more like extortion than blackmail. I'll be honest I don't know what the difference is.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:44
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The X makes it sound cooler.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:45
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Here's a better article. After sending the letters, he then placed liens on the property of those who supposedly owed him money. Of course, the real reason he got the maximum sentence is that his victims included a judge and a police sergeant.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:45
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Basebf555 posted:I'll be honest I don't know what the difference is. Extortion is telling a business owner you sell private insurance for damage to their store then smashing their windows when they refuse to pay. Blackmail is claiming to have evidence the business owner sucks balls in truck stop bathrooms and demanding money to keep quiet.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:49
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lavaca posted:Here's a better article. After sending the letters, he then placed liens on the property of those who supposedly owed him money. Of course, the real reason he got the maximum sentence is that his victims included a judge and a police sergeant. quote:In the past, he has been charged with second-degree murder, battery, narcotics violations, burglary, trespassing, issuing worthless checks, and parole violations.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:53
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He may also be under probation for previous crimes, and the sentencing reflects priors, not just the idiotic legal tactics.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:11
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yeah when i was writing my outraged post i considered adding "even though i know next to nothing about the case," but then i didnt because i have my internet bad boy reputation to maintain and i dont want people to think i'm some sort of square
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Oct 14, 2016 21:16
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I haven't read the details but what if it's 6 months per offence? With 30 offences, that poo poo'll rack up quickly.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:16
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Ak Gara posted:I haven't read the details but what if it's 6 months per offence? With 30 offences, that poo poo'll rack up quickly. I swear I've heard of people serving rape/murder/assault sentences concurrently. If the judge doesn't think 2 years is enough time for this guy to go "hm okay yeah maybe I need to quit being a loving lunatic and stop trying to ruin other people's lives" then either the guy has demonstrated he's incapable of changing, or something very dirty is going on. Probably the former, but I still find it very problematic that you can give someone 20 years in prison - you don't know what sort of person they'll be in 2, or 5, or 10. 20 is five lifetimes away. e: probably this isnt the thread for it
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Oct 14, 2016 21:20
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:I swear I've heard of people serving rape/murder/assault sentences concurrently. If the judge doesn't think 2 years is enough time for this guy to go "hm okay yeah maybe I need to quit being a loving lunatic and stop trying to ruin other people's lives" then either the guy has demonstrated he's incapable of changing, or something very dirty is going on. Probably the former, but I still find it very problematic that you can give someone 20 years in prison - you don't know what sort of person they'll be in 2, or 5, or 10. 20 is five lifetimes away. Nobody's disagreeing with you though, we're just trying to figure out how the law was used here. Nobody is saying its justified.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:24
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I never thought anybody was disagreeing with me..
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Oct 14, 2016 21:27
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:I swear I've heard of people serving rape/murder/assault sentences concurrently. That reminds me of the Daniel Holtzclaw video, who was tried consecutively for 263 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR3MDnpKjZ0
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Oct 14, 2016 22:40
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Ak Gara posted:That reminds me of the Daniel Holtzclaw video, who was tried consecutively for 263 years. That title undersells it. Holtzclaw only had 36 charges brought against him and was convicted for 18, but it's estimated that he could have raped dozens or hundreds of people, intentionally targeting women with prior convictions so their credibility would be questioned if they tried to snitch on him. He's an incredible monster who got exactly what he deserved.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:13
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chitoryu12 posted:That title undersells it. Holtzclaw only had 36 charges brought against him and was convicted for 18, but it's estimated that he could have raped dozens or hundreds of people, intentionally targeting women with prior convictions so their credibility would be questioned if they tried to snitch on him. He's an incredible monster who got exactly what he deserved. And it fits the thread beautifully. The thumbnail is pretty representative, and his sobs are great. Rot.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:25
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Honestly it's the purest kind of schadenfreude.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:27
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Combination of federal terrorism charges, plus the whole sovcit thing at a BAD time. The dude who killed the cops earlier in the year in Baton Rouge was a sovcit, and basically that moved them from "occasional annoyance that everyone deals with" to "oh gently caress, terrorism!". Plus the whole liens/threatening the cop and judge. He probably won't serve the full 20 though, depends on how hard they hit him for the terrorism charges.
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chitoryu12 posted:Honestly it's the purest kind of schadenfreude. The way his attorney/lawyer/whatever patted him on the back was great. Yeah bud, you're hosed. Here's the last bit of human compassion you're going to get in a while now shut up for a bit eh?
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Oct 14, 2016 23:57
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10 building demolitions gone wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHcCbY2wY38
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Oct 15, 2016 01:31
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That was a really stupid way to set up those TVs. The crying rapist video was great, thank you.
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Oct 15, 2016 01:45
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Combination of federal terrorism charges, plus the whole sovcit thing at a BAD time. The dude who killed the cops earlier in the year in Baton Rouge was a sovcit, and basically that moved them from "occasional annoyance that everyone deals with" to "oh gently caress, terrorism!". Plus the whole liens/threatening the cop and judge. Sovcit has been on cops' radars since well before Baton Rouge. Back in March I caught up with an old friend who's an officer and somehow they came up. He says it's the only time he hovers his hand over his gun instead of his taser.
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https://i.imgur.com/c3b1Ryj.mp4 fun fact: in Arizona there is a law called the "Stupid Motorist Law" that allows the state to bill any motorist for the cost of their rescue if they became stranded in a flood, canyon, etc. by driving around barricades.
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Sagebrush posted:in the full quote, it seems to me that though he's saying "legally justified", he means "legally cleared", in that the stupid Florida law meant Zimmerman was acquitted of any wrongdoing. he's just not very good with words. He didn’t come up with “human submarines”. It’s from this 2014 post on Reddit.
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Oct 15, 2016 04:23
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Panfilo posted:Ken Bone is the Patron Saint of Reddit. Not Saint Juvenal?
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Oct 15, 2016 05:07
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This isn't exactly schadenfreude, but it seems to go a level beyond the funny news article thread, and we don't have a thread for plain old idiots. It's a criminal getting his comeuppance, so I figure it kind of fits here. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/we-have-reached-peak-florida-532897 quote:OCTOBER 5--In a scene deserving of a “Yakety Sax” score, a 350-pound Florida man ran from a Walmart with two stolen TVs...
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Oct 15, 2016 07:15
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Bonechat: Why is liking pregnant porn worse than any other kind of porn?
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Oct 15, 2016 07:44
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It's not, if we're being open-minded, but it's still weird.
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Oct 15, 2016 07:48
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The weird thing is that you'd be happy with your comments about your porn preferences to be linked to your real identity if you're not an unrepentant goonlord.
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It's not the people who watch the porn who are the true deviants, it's the ones that comment on it
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