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fleshweasel posted:All command line text editors are stupid and bad. Any thing not done from the command line is done wrong
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xtal posted:Any thing not done from the command line is done wrong Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx.
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Oct 13, 2016 20:16
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Klades posted:Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx. good
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Oct 13, 2016 20:27
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One of my coworkers uses emacs but uses the toolbar to copy/paste code and every time I see him do it I scream inside. also I use spacemacs in evil-mode because modal editing is cool
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I didn't realize that we'd move on from emacs vs. vim wars to graphical text editors vs. console text editors, but I suppose this religious discussion is rare enough. I use vim bindings because I hate using the mouse for exploring code, but for exploring a visual space of some sort I'm all about mouse controls. I'm just terrible at keybindings for my IDEs and editors for compiling because switching between OSes and environments frequently for over 15 years has permanently damaged the part of my brain that can learn new keybindings.
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Oct 13, 2016 20:47
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Klades posted:Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx. You're joking but the years I spent using tor and w3m were not so bad
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Oct 13, 2016 20:51
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1337JiveTurkey posted:edit: It'd be an amusing Goon Project to get those characters in wider use. 
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Oct 13, 2016 21:12
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Klades posted:Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx. The modern (haha) version is called links, and yes I use it.
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Oct 13, 2016 21:56
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Other IDE's have keyboard only navigation and editing so people saying they use vim because of that are missing the value that vim keybindings bring: you can use them with lots of editors and IDEs so you can use the keybindings you like across multiple environments.
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Oct 13, 2016 22:05
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Thermopyle posted:Other IDE's have keyboard only navigation and editing so people saying they use vim because of that are missing the value that vim keybindings bring: you can use them with lots of editors and IDEs so you can use the keybindings you like across multiple environments. emacs keybindings are superior for that, since they're also the defaults for most shells, supported as standard in macos apps and most linux guis, and can actually be configured in any programs that don't support them out of the box because they don't rely on an unusual modal system
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Oct 13, 2016 22:17
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Trying to slap the "superior" label on anything is a stupid waste of time. Use whatever you enjoy, no one gets to tell you how to use a computer, gently caress the haters.
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Oct 13, 2016 22:25
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Soricidus posted:emacs keybindings are superior for that, since they're also the defaults for most shells, supported as standard in macos apps and most linux guis, and can actually be configured in any programs that don't support them out of the box because they don't rely on an unusual modal system That may or may not be true...I don't know because I don't use either!
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Oct 13, 2016 22:56
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Klades posted:Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx. lookit this noob who didn't use w3m
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Oct 13, 2016 23:05
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Klades posted:Put away the jabbascript, everyone, we're going back to Lynx. Hmm. New hack day project lynx with v8...
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Oct 14, 2016 00:03
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But can I use lynx for viewing dank memes?
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Oct 14, 2016 05:58
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Keybindings discussions might as well be plane on treadmill discussions tbh.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:04
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I genuinely like the economy of vim editing commands but I never got the hang of rapid navigation so inevitably I end up back in my gui editors to do anything productive.
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Oct 14, 2016 06:08
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I deal with maybe the only existing format that uses RS, GS, and US (wrongly): MARC. A standard from I think 1967 or so, still in use everywhere you live, if you live in a place that has a library. It is the most user specified, machine unreadable format ever.
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Oct 14, 2016 07:18
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I like eclipse keybindings! 
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xtal posted:Begrudgingly doing some Web programming and just found out the fastest) recommended way to clone an object in JavaScript is to turn it to json and back I was at a programming language conference where a paper was presented on trying to speed up stringification of floating point numbers. When I talked to the author, he told me that the chief motivation was Javascript programmers running into performance problems due to serializing back and forth into JSON.
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Oct 14, 2016 15:19
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im a troglodyte and mostly use the mouse to do things. if i worked in one or two languages i might be able to memorize the keybindings in their toolsets, but i have to use more than 6 languages on a daily basis on this point and they all have different keybindings and it's just too much. better to right-click things and see what contextual options i have.
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Carbon dioxide posted:But can I use lynx for viewing dank memes? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2841382&pagenumber=179&perpage=40#post460861264
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Oct 14, 2016 16:58
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Security horror? This would have potentially had medical patients and their orders visible via the admin side. Yeesh. admin/admin login at url "/admin" isn't exactly a tough one to guess.
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Oct 14, 2016 17:40
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Modest Mouse cover band posted:Security horror? The security horror that you have access to plaintext passwords somehow? Or is this from a leak/dump from a hacked site or something? Because if it's the latter then it's just stupid users being stupid users.
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Oct 14, 2016 17:46
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No Safe Word posted:The security horror that you have access to plaintext passwords somehow? Even if this were a leaked database dump, it should have stored their passwords as hashes, not plaintext.
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Oct 14, 2016 17:50
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Looks like a screengrab from phpmyadmin to me, so it's probably an internal database. Passwords are hard, it's not like there's 40 years of history out there telling us how to be responsible with them.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:im a troglodyte and mostly use the mouse to do things. if i worked in one or two languages i might be able to memorize the keybindings in their toolsets, but i have to use more than 6 languages on a daily basis on this point and they all have different keybindings and it's just too much. better to right-click things and see what contextual options i have. Languages don't have key bindings
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Oct 14, 2016 17:57
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No Safe Word posted:The security horror that you have access to plaintext passwords somehow? No it's a potential new client I'm working with. I'm just getting a feel for what's currently going on. Storing in plain text is a horror yes, but I'm mostly referring to the website admin login being "admin/admin" where the admin url is "www.site.com/admin". This could have potentially caused very much trouble considering there would have been medical patients' data in there if they had finished the implementation.
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Oct 14, 2016 18:32
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xtal posted:Languages don't have key bindings Did you intentionally miss "in their toolsets" or have you never hopped from vim to VS?
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JawnV6 posted:Did you intentionally miss "in their toolsets" or have you never hopped from vim to VS? Why on earth would I ever do that?
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Oct 14, 2016 19:09
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You can get VsVim 
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So maybe this is for the career thread but the coding horror people are probably able to help me just as well. I work at a big company and I'm paid pretty well. The problem is that most other developers are straight up FizzBuzz level incompetent. Every line of code I see could be posted here. There's no way our product is going to succeed. Do you just collect the paychecks and move on when it dies? Is there hope of raising the technical bar when you're in the minority? How do you work on a project you don't believe in?
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Oct 14, 2016 21:19
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Move on well before it dies, you don't want to be competing with those morons when you're all fired
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Oct 14, 2016 21:29
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Keep doing your job as well as you know how. At the same time, update your resume, send it out, and talk to people you know at other companies. You just want to have a good exit strategy.
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Always Be Considering (offers) should be the mantra for ambitious folks. At the very least, interviewing skills are not the same as work skills. And lastly, it might be painful but you may have to ask yourself how you got lumped in with Bad Engineers and do what you can to avoid that situation again. In most cases, you should be able to do a 9-to-5 easily enough while taking time off for some interviews or to work on side projects.
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xtal posted:So maybe this is for the career thread but the coding horror people are probably able to help me just as well. 
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xtal posted:Every line of code I see could be posted here. There's no way our product is going to succeed.
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