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EngineerSean I'm honestly curious about something. You supported Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary, but you switched your support to Donald Trump, is that fair to say? What made you decide that after supporting somebody who ran on a left of center platform, to instead support somebody who was far right? Did you feel that you were making a tradeoff by supporting Mr. Trump over Senator Sanders? What issues were most important to you when you supported Senator Sanders that you feel Mr. Trump has a better position on than Secretary Clinton?
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Chris James 2 posted:Bernie lost, backed a winner, and stepped aside. Romney toxxers took a really bad decision (toxxing for Romney), re-registered after their punishment, and followed by making a historically bad decision (toxxing for Trump). Very un-Bernie like at best, cowardice at worst, and either way it gets no sympathy from me that they're now facing a perma. For the few facing it who didn't make those two bad decisions back to back, congrats on making two more bad decisions back to back (toxxing for the worst man and sticking by it after being warned of a free pass out of it) It's not a free pass when both alternatives to the ban that I signed up for are arguably worse, but instead I'm taking the hint that this isn't the place for me and quitting on my own terms.
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Oct 14, 2016 21:58
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Instant Sunrise posted:You supported Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary, but you switched your support to Donald Trump, is that fair to say? I've never supported Donald Trump. I guess I don't blame anyone for thinking that but at least I can say that nobody will ever confuse my lack of support for Hillary Clinton.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:00
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Pakled posted:nice meltdown Also, EngineerSean, I voted for Hillary during a closely contested democratic primary between her and Bernie.  I've been riding this train since the beginning.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:01
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I can't find the Paradol Ex post that was entirely too graphic but pretend that I did a find -> replace from "Obama" to "Hillary" because I think that a lot of you will regret your feverish support for a neoliberal.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:02
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EngineerSean posted:I've never supported Donald Trump. I guess I don't blame anyone for thinking that but at least I can say that nobody will ever confuse my lack of support for Hillary Clinton. You say you've never supported Mr. Trump, yet your avatar has a "Make America Great Again" tower underneath it, and you toxxed your account for Mr. Trump.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:02
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Instant Sunrise posted:You say you've never supported Mr. Trump, yet your avatar has a "Make America Great Again" tower underneath it, and you toxxed your account for Mr. Trump. slam your fist down on the table and cry "OBJECTION!" because it looks like you've caught me this time  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 14, 2016 22:03
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EngineerSean posted:I can't find the Paradol Ex post that was entirely too graphic but pretend that I did a find -> replace from "Obama" to "Hillary" because I think that a lot of you will regret your feverish support for a neoliberal. That's ok, we already can tell you're an insufferable idiot who's smugly disappearing up his own rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:09
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Bernie is going to chair the senate majority budget committee instead of being a president with an adversarial congress, good trade imo
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are you saying stoned genderqueer commie homer simpson is bad?????????? Cuz i want to get 2 kno stoned genderqueer commie homer simpson
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Oct 14, 2016 22:20
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Don't doxx me please
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Oct 14, 2016 22:54
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Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:58
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Going Bernie -> Trump is probably motivated by a mix of wanting someone anti-establishment and plain old misogyny for most of them.
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Oct 14, 2016 22:59
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Instant Sunrise posted:Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right. If they can't win and be happy, why let anyone be If they're miserable they want everyone else to be too
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Oct 14, 2016 23:00
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Instant Sunrise posted:Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right. It's pretty simple. They are both running on a platform of "poo poo is bad, and I'm going to drastically change it" and hillary is a woman but don't get me started on that
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Oct 14, 2016 23:05
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Instant Sunrise posted:Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right. Misogyny, mostly.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:23
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i guess i'm just weirded out because i'm a woman who went from supporting bernie to hillary after she won, because i thought bernie was great and hillary was good. so it's hard for me to wrap my mind around the mindset that goes "well my guy lost, guess i'm going to support the guy who's positions are 180º the opposite of what i was supporting before."
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Oct 14, 2016 23:28
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I think a lot of it is also that Trump is (or at least WAS) so vague you can sort of project your own image of what he is on to him. Like, forums poster the Saurus saw Trump as secretly pretty liberal. He did take some unusually progressive stances in the beginning, but then he'd take the opposite the next day. Everyone knows that Trump is a pandering liar because he's so obvious about it. I can sort of understand how someone might assume they figured out the REAL Trump. That THEY were the ones who could tell the lies apart from the truths. I mean, in the beginning. And if they were already kinda dumb.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:37
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Instant Sunrise posted:Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right. It's a profound belief that their vote doesn't actually matter, so they're picking the option most likely to make their vote matter. That it would lead to a Brexit-sized case of buyers remorse on November 9 if Trump wins is irrelevant. It's a "gently caress you" vote, but not for Johnson, Stein, or McMuffin.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:39
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Instant Sunrise posted:i guess i'm just weirded out because i'm a woman who went from supporting bernie to hillary after she won, because i thought bernie was great and hillary was good. some people cant stand 2 b wrong
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Oct 14, 2016 23:43
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Bass Bottles posted:I think a lot of it is also that Trump is (or at least WAS) so vague you can sort of project your own image of what he is on to him. The cold light of history is proving daily just how mistaken I was, and just how bad a Trump presidency would be, but before he went off the deep end publicly, this wasn't such a far-fetched idea.
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Oct 14, 2016 23:48
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EngineerSean posted:I can't find the Paradol Ex post that was entirely too graphic but pretend that I did a find -> replace from "Obama" to "Hillary" because I think that a lot of you will regret your feverish support for a neoliberal. I have a feeling literally nobody will be looking at their hands in 2020 bemoaning why oh why didn't they vote for President Trump.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Honestly, Bernie bro's who went from supporting a far left candidate to a far right candidate confuse me and I want to understand what would make them go from far left to far right. The folks you're describing aren't really Bernie Bros, they're mostly generic anti-status quo people who latched on to an outsider. A lot of them are quasi-libertarians who don't know an ounce of policy. The hardcore BBs are now either for Stein, write-in Bernie, Hillary because Bernie endorsed, some socialist alternative, or "gently caress this I'm not voting at all!"
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Oct 14, 2016 23:59
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Also please dont (perma?)ban EngineerSean, he is a pillar of the PredictIt thread.
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Nice meltdown tho, lol.
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Azathoth posted:young people who don't have a real experience of what Republicans do when they get power, particularly at the national level, and only know the obstructionist party of today Jesus, this is scary to think about. I still think of myself as kind of young, but I'm past college age, and I have a decent memory of what growing up under Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft was like, and I would try to keep up to date with political issues from a pretty young age. There are people able to vote who were only 10 when Obama came into office. I think a lot of the disaffected young folks might not have felt the awfulness of the Bush administration nearly as much as others did, and they really don't understand how bad things can get when Republicans control the country.
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trapped mouse posted:Jesus, this is scary to think about. I still think of myself as kind of young, but I'm past college age, and I have a decent memory of what growing up under Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft was like, and I would try to keep up to date with political issues from a pretty young age. There are people able to vote who were only 10 when Obama came into office. I think a lot of the disaffected young folks might not have felt the awfulness of the Bush administration nearly as much as others did, and they really don't understand how bad things can get when Republicans control the country. this is honestly one of my biggest concerns going forward tbh. 2020 will have people voting who were born after 9/11, and would have no real memory of what kind of damage a republican presidency can do. i mean, i was 13 when bush was elected the first time, and seeing everything that happened in those 8 years when i was in high school and college really soured me on the idea of ever electing another republican president. but with the bush years, it's not even the big things, but the thousands of little things that happened which were part of the larger trend, like freedom fries or ashcroft putting sheets over the boobie statues in the department of justice rather than be in the same photograph as a statue titty.
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What is this toxxing rulechange? I see discussion of it, but can't find the actual post, in the op, in the subforum rules, anywhere.
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Discendo Vox posted:What is this toxxing rulechange? I see discussion of it, but can't find the actual post, in the op, in the subforum rules, anywhere. Trump thread only, not this one Check it out lol 😂
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Discendo Vox posted:What is this toxxing rulechange? I see discussion of it, but can't find the actual post, in the op, in the subforum rules, anywhere. The Trumplings are being put to the stake unless they confess their sins.
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Oct 15, 2016 01:51
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That Trump thread rule change is pretty funny, but not as funny as the guy who butt posted in the Third Party toxx thread.
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Oct 15, 2016 02:09
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LOL god you're a sad fuckup
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EmperorFritoBandito posted:LOL god you're a sad fuckup he's made a small fortune flooding the Amazon Kindle marketplace with atrocious softcore porn so he's laughing no matter who's in the white house being the grand high eroticalord doesn't mean you know sweet F.A. about current events though (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 15, 2016 02:41
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Oxxidation posted:he's made a small fortune flooding the Amazon Kindle marketplace with atrocious softcore porn so he's laughing no matter who's in the white house Should I even ask for more information about this
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EmperorFritoBandito posted:Should I even ask for more information about this it's not a big secret, he's a literal millionaire due to getting into the self publishing porn scene early and then going into publishing/consulting from there, CC's got a whole thread about it i think he got his start with daddy/daughter rape fiction but don't quote me on that might be a lucrative way to write but i'd rather catch my balls in a car door than do it for a living
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Oxxidation posted:it's not a big secret, he's a literal millionaire due to getting into the self publishing porn scene early and then going into publishing/consulting from there, CC's got a whole thread about it Everybody's gotta make a living.
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Everybody's gotta make a living. Another tragedy that could've been averted with ubi implementation.
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Oxxidation posted:i think he got his start with daddy/daughter rape fiction but don't quote me on that I thought I'd be banned by now and I was gonna just log out but I wanted to read any other responses and I feel like I got to respond to this. If you're trying to smear me because I think Hillary is too far to the right, you already did a fine job by calling the fortune I made "small". It's a well-known tactic of misogynists to paint all women's fiction as "porn" and "rape fiction" because they hate the idea of women's pleasure, so I'm glad at least some Democratic party members are showing their true colors. The next play in the playbook is to accuse me of being a Russian plant.
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Azathoth posted:During the primary, before he went from annoying loudmoth to wannabe-dictator, he announced his candidacy with "mexicans are coming over here and raping our women" trump never hid it, he was always Mussolini for morons
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