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Alain Post posted:they are, and manufacturer involvement is the specific reason they're moving away from the V8 image. fine by me since traditionally the ATCC had a shitload of engine types being run I think it's less manufacturer involvement and more oh god Holden please don't leave the championship since right now Holden are the only ones saying they'll use a V6 when the regs change.
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Didn't Ford pull official manufacturer support from Supercars a few years ago? Or at least threaten to? I can't imagine an Australian racing series with no Ford or no Holden. Might as well be Indycar with no Honda or no Chevy.
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I wasn't following it a few years ago but I wouldn't be surprised given almost the entire field runs Fords right now while Holden is constantly cutting back its involvement.
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WindyMan posted:Didn't Ford pull official manufacturer support from Supercars a few years ago? Or at least threaten to? Pretty well most of the V8 Ford teams are getting back door support from Ford. Word is that the rules will be changed in 2018 to allow different body shapes and engine types. Ford will still use the Falcon next year (and that has gotta hurt all the workers who lost their jobs) but will be looking at using the Mustang after that.
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Also let's all laugh at Triple 8 Racing/Red Bull Racing Australia: http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/14/court-ruling-confirms-davisonwebb-bathurst-win/ The V8 Supercar Appeal Board has made an interim ruling that Davison and Webb have won this year's Bathurst 1000, and that Red Bull can only challenge the severity of the penalty they copped towards the end of this year's race.
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The BTCC Hondas are the Red Cars of that series. I was hoping for a Tordoff upset of sorts.
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CBJSprague24 posted:The BTCC Hondas are the Red Cars of that series. I was hoping for a Tordoff upset of sorts. Hilariously the boss of Yuasa Racing is saying the grid was way too big this year and he wants it capped at 24 cars going forward and also we should have BTCC specific licences for some reason. The amount of hilarious whining coming from some of the top teams over the fact that there were some crashes this season is amazing given the penalties brought in after the Snetterton shitshow were never actually needed as everyone kinda calmed the hell down after that. Also this is my favourite part of that appeals court ruling. quote:Triple Eight applied to the Court to amend its appeal to instead claim that the failed pass was not a breach of the driving standards at all, despite numerous prior admissions by Triple Eight that the failed pass was a breach.
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Rumor has it end of next year Audi is withdrawing from LMP1. Cost cutting measure still from the dieselgate saga. Haven't got anything firm but that's gonna be a punch in the gut for LMP1.
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I think they will use it to get costs down instead.
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BMB5150 posted:Rumor has it end of next year Audi is withdrawing from LMP1. Cost cutting measure still from the dieselgate saga. Haven't got anything firm but that's gonna be a punch in the gut for LMP1. Audi quitting to hand over the reigns to Porsche has been the rumour for 3 years or so now.
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I know I've defended LMP1 in the past, and I do love it, but I'd like GT1 style rules to come back.
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George Zimmer posted:I know I've defended LMP1 in the past, and I do love it, but I'd like GT1 style rules to come back. Having GT1 come back for a few years to then re-transition into LMP1 again would be sweet.
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BMB5150 posted:Rumor has it end of next year Audi is withdrawing from LMP1. Cost cutting measure still from the dieselgate saga. Haven't got anything firm but that's gonna be a punch in the gut for LMP1. I think that company is in alot more financial trouble than they're letting on, it was really a matter of time until one of the LMP1 programs was axed.
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Toyota is running at half the budget despite being based in Germany as well.
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Top prototype class in boom-bust cycle shocker
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1500quidporsche posted:I think that company is in alot more financial trouble than they're letting on, it was really a matter of time until one of the LMP1 programs was axed. Isn't VAG a publicly traded company? If so, it's kinda impossible to hide their financial health.
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gret posted:Isn't VAG a publicly traded company? If so, it's kinda impossible to hide their financial health. They've got alot of diesel tech that's worthless and the main platform underpinning the majority of their volume sellers is generally acknowledged to be way too expensive for the category it's selling in. That kind of stuff doesn't really show up on financial statements, and they need to be putting alot of cash into R&D right now. The rumors about the golf hybrid being some convoluted belt driven starter/generator with an electric supercharger driven off a regular car battery doesn't really inspire confidence.
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CBJSprague24 posted:The BTCC Hondas are the Red Cars of that series. I was hoping for a Tordoff upset of sorts. nah TeamDynamics and especially Shedden are cool imo. the real villain is Plato
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Alain Post posted:nah TeamDynamics and especially Shedden are cool imo. the real villain is Plato Except Turkington was kicking Plato's rear end all over the place this year.
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yeah, which was cool e) Turks is one of the best drivers in the series and he's also one of the cleanest IMO. Shedden isn't bad either, they're probably my two favorite BTCC guys. though honestly Turkington's been my favorite BTCC guy ever since I started watching in 2006 and he had the coolest looking car in the entire series 
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Alain Post posted:though honestly Turkington's been my favorite BTCC guy ever since I started watching in 2006 and he had the coolest looking car in the entire series Friendly heads up but you posted an image of an MG instead of a cool car
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Just because it's a lousy road car doesn't mean it can't be a cool race car. Like, the Audi 90 is a miserable pile of poo poo in pretty much every way (imagine a E30 3-series but really unreliable, heavier,not assembled properly and with plow on understeer) but the IMSA GTO version kicks rear end.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Just because it's a lousy road car doesn't mean it can't be a cool race car. Like, the Audi 90 is a miserable pile of poo poo in pretty much every way (imagine a E30 3-series but really unreliable, heavier,not assembled properly and with plow on understeer) but the IMSA GTO version kicks rear end.  IIRC, them racing this made everybody else have to pile on a poo poo ton of ballast, the E90/E92s being like 400lbs.
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SuperStars owned for like the two years it was a thing
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Alain Post posted:also speaking of unlikable teams, I'm conflicted in Supercars this year, because I hate 888/Red Bull but I've always really loved SVG I've got a rule about the V8 SC, as long as it isn't Whincup, it's all good.
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The WEC race at Fuji is very good in case y'all were curious.
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I just tuned in with 3 hours to go. What happened to the #7 Audi, exactly?
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WindyMan posted:I just tuned in with 3 hours to go. What happened to the #7 Audi, exactly? The hybrid front axle/motor went kabang about an hour into the race. Not sure if they're back on the track minus hybrid or not. I wanted to go this year but just couldn't make it. Looks absolutely stunning out there today.
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Ogier won another world rally championship. I don't think anyone even expected anything else or cares about the whole championship this year.
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Triple A posted:Ogier won another world rally championship. I don't think anyone even expected anything else or cares about the whole championship this year. I never once saw anyone talk about WRC this year outside results and the occasional "LOOK HOW COOL NEXT YEARS CARS ARE!!" article.
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I really just wish it would die already. Its not going to get better without a major rewrite of the rules.
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1500quidporsche posted:I really just wish it would die already. Its not going to get better without a major rewrite of the rules. Let's hope the next year's new rule-set actually gets us a winner who isn't a French prick driving for team who outspend everyone else by a decent margin.,
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Alain Post posted:WRC is bad.
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Alain Post posted:WRC is bad. This. ERC good.
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In his effort to highlight how weak and unskilled the rest of humanity is, Zanardi came back to racing from his training for the Rio Paralympics (where he won 2 golds and a silver)... and proceeded to win an Italian GT Championship race. http://www.racer.com/international-racing/item/135541-zanardi-wins-on-return-to-motorsport
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Alain Post posted:WRC is bad. Meanwhile, in Rallycross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzXJwiWsvNE My right eyeball nearly jumped out of my skull watching this for the first time.
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