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pienipple posted:
Move to Arizona, then.
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I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Aww poor bats! I wonder if there would be a safe and financially feasible way to keep extra bugs from being attracted to the paint. I remember making a long drive past some wind farms in Indiana or Illinois (can't recall which) and they were amazing. Just being a different colour would make a huge difference but bats are also very curious and will go and investigate wind turbines on their own. I hope that if turbines keep going up that someone solves the bat/bird issue but right now it's kinda grim.
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My tables!!SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Aww poor bats! I wonder if there would be a safe and financially feasible way to keep extra bugs from being attracted to the paint. I remember making a long drive past some wind farms in Indiana or Illinois (can't recall which) and they were amazing. Northern Indiana a few hours outside of Chicago? There's a pretty big one out there. Maybe use ultrasound so it screws up their ability to echolocate and they will avoid the area? Fake Edit: Wikipedia says that it's kind of effective, but difficult to get the ultrasound waves to travel far enough to keep bats safe... Plus, even if it did work, people would use the infrasound argument and say that the wind turbines are making them sick because they want coal plants instead
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Oct 17, 2016 03:15
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste. Just dump it in a big old hole. Surely we'd run out of fissionable material long before we ran out of hole.
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Oct 17, 2016 03:18
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Listen, we're not gonna get Godzilla by NOT creating nuclear waste. Mothra will awaken any day now and we need protection.
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Oct 17, 2016 03:20
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Waffleman_ posted:Listen, we're not gonna get Godzilla by NOT creating nuclear waste. Mothra will awaken any day now and we need protection. What do you think all those wind farms are for?
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Oct 17, 2016 04:44
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Waffleman_ posted:Listen, we're not gonna get Godzilla by NOT creating nuclear waste. Mothra will awaken any day now and we need protection. Mothra is the guardian of earth rear end in a top hat
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Oct 17, 2016 04:46
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Cleretic posted:It all depends on geography, I think. Renewables are great but you kinda have to pick by region. Most of Australia's perfect for solar, because a really strong solar plant requires a ton of free flat land that gets a lot of clear sun. And that describes about 90% of Australia's landmass. Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste. pienipple posted:I really want a driveway that never needs shoveling
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Oct 17, 2016 04:50
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste. If you're outside the US, reprocess it into more nuclear fuel. If you're in the US, store it in big casks in the desert instead of recycling it. THANKS CARTER!
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Oct 17, 2016 05:44
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste. Whatever you want, if it's halfway sensible it's better than what we're doing with coal and gas
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Oct 17, 2016 06:48
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dads_work_files posted:Just dump it in a big old hole. Surely we'd run out of fissionable material long before we ran out of hole. Isn't that what we do with garbage too? We just get to use cheaper holes for it.
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Oct 17, 2016 07:41
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste. Grind it up into very fine particles and spray it into the atmosphere, so that small children breathe it into their lungs You know, like how coal, oil and gas does.
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Elfgames posted:Mothra is the guardian of earth rear end in a top hat And she's not gonna defeat King Ghidorah herself!
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Just read this (again?) and had a hearty laugh: Context: Soft-Drink Fanta was invented in Nazi Germany. Wikipedia: Fanta posted:In February 2015, a 75th anniversary version of Fanta was released in Germany. ... An associated television ad referenced the history of the drink and said the Coca-Cola company wanted to bring back "the feeling of the Good Old Times"
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Psychedelicatessen posted:Also, wasn't Fanta made with the leftovers of leftovers from making orange juice in the beginning? I don't know what it was made with, but it was made in Germany after that Coca-Cola plant couldn't get ahold of the stuff to make coke. Remember, when you drink Fanta, you're drinking the blood of millions.
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Oct 17, 2016 14:08
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Whey and apple pulp left over from juicing. Yum yum. That's got to be fake, the umlaut in Getränk is missing, "Coke ist es" sounds all wrong, the logo looks upscaled from a small low-res image, bottom font doesn't exactly scream 1930s... ... y'know, regardless of the fact that they really were the games' main sponsor 
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Oct 17, 2016 14:15
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My Lovely Horse posted:Whey and apple pulp left over from juicing. Yum yum. Beyond the zoomed in Eagle, I think the kind of joke they're trying to make is something that would appeal to Americans in the 21st century, not Nazi officials in 1936
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Yo dawg, I heard you like VHS… 
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Improbable Lobster posted:Bugs like the white paint a whole lot, which attracts bats. Bats are tiny and the negative air pressure from the blades explodes their lungs. It really really sucks. Somebody invented new air power that isn't giant spinning turbines but instead little tubes that just kinda vibrate back and forth. Hopefully those can take over. dads_work_files posted:Just dump it in a big old hole. Surely we'd run out of fissionable material long before we ran out of hole. Yeah this is the answer isn't isn't as bad as lots of people think. Dump it in a solid lead or whatever container, bury it deep underground. It'll be decades before it builds up to a serious amount, we have poo poo tons of land in the US we're still not using at all that isn't near any cities. Then in like 2050 we can invent a new way to just transmute all that nuclear waste into solid gold or earl grey tea.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:37
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Improbable Lobster posted:Just being a different colour would make a huge difference but bats are also very curious and will go and investigate wind turbines on their own. Which shows that while curiosity may be the handmaiden of intelligence it doesn't work very well as its substitute.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah this is the answer isn't isn't as bad as lots of people think. Dump it in a solid lead or whatever container, bury it deep underground. When you think about it, the uranium came from the ground to begin with. We pulled it out, extracted some of the dangerous radio energy from it, and bury it in a more controlled manner than Mother Nature ever did. So when you think about it, nuclear power plants make the environment cleaner than we found it.
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Zaphod42 posted:Somebody invented new air power that isn't giant spinning turbines but instead little tubes that just kinda vibrate back and forth. Hopefully those can take over. This is literally what everyone thought in the 1950s.  The problem isn't necessarily just the spent fuel. The problem is that we have to dispose of everything exposed to the fuel and the waste. Badges, gloves, suits, tools, shovels, broken parts that had been replaced, dead people, etc. What are we going to transmute that stuff into? Oh, we can't? We'd better store all that stuff somewhere until it's not radioactive anymore.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Remember, when you drink Fanta, you're drinking the blood of millions. Sounds metal as gently caress, they should turn that into a marketing campaign.
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Alhazred posted:Which shows that while curiosity may be the handmaiden of intelligence it doesn't work very well as its substitute. Bats recognise water by the echoes of its smooth surface. Few things in nature are as smooth and as flat as a body of water. Scientists proved this when they trolled bats by laying out metals plates, which the bats found indistinguishable from calm water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuCxQst8Fqo
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the sexual Shiite posted:This is literally what everyone thought in the 1950s. Pay Australia to take it, they've got room. 
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the sexual Shiite posted:What are we going to transmute that stuff into? Oh, we can't? We'd better store all that stuff somewhere until it's not radioactive anymore. We still have tooooooooons of space for landfills in the US, we could go centuries and not run out of room. And if we do run out of room and still haven't invented matter transmutation, we build a rocket and we shoot it all into the sun. Hargrimm posted:Pay Australia to take it, they've got room. Nah we have more room than they do. That graph is misleading. Even the really dark states are nowhere near "full", and there's plenty of totally empty states like Wyoming and Utah.
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The problem isn't where you put the radioactive material. It's transporting it there past populated areas. So Australia sounds fantastic until you realize how many big cities you have to pass through in order to get it there. Also it's really easy to store with minimal cost, but that still hasn't stopped a lot of people cheaping out and dumping the poo poo in terrible locations.
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Hargrimm posted:Pay Australia to take it, they've got room.
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C.M. Kruger posted:If you're outside the US, reprocess it into more nuclear fuel. Yeah Carter heard that spent fuel has plutonium in it and omg bombs also have plutonium in it therefore somehow fuel waste in the hands of a government that already has fucktons of nuclear bombs is a proliferation risk. (People will point out that Carter had some nuclear background but all he did was part of a year-long early 1950s nuclear submarine program before loving off to politics and I don't really see how that trumps people like me with up to date proper civilian nuclear engineering degrees) If you reprocess the spent fuel you end up with very little waste; certainly less radioactive waste than coal plants put out while generating the same power except you have it in one place, contained, and packaged up. It's weird how having the waste contained and on hand is somehow worse than just spewing it out into the air and water like coal plants do.
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Let's pay Elon Musk to shoot it into yonder sun.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Chernobyl was caused by the operators playing chicken with the reactor, trying to see if they could run the circulation pumps off of waste heat for long enough to backups to come online if the mains went out. Maxwell Lord posted:I'm not scared of nuclear plants melting down anymore, but I have yet to hear a good answer as to what you do with the waste.
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Strudel Man posted:Let's pay Elon Musk to shoot it into yonder sun. Only if he goes up with them
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My Lovely Horse posted:Do you want Warboys? Because that's how you get Warboys. I think I remember reading a fan theory that in Mad Max, it's only Australia that is the post-apocalyptic hellscape, not a worldwide disaster situation. The rest of the world is still chugging along just fine, having quarantined the Aussies and put them out of their minds.
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the sexual Shiite posted:This is literally what everyone thought in the 1950s. All that other poo poo is low-level waste, it is not a big concern, and there are literally dozens of adequate disposal sites for it in the US, a number adminisitered through the DOE. The obstacle to disposing of high-level waste is political, not technical or ecological. It's called NIMBY. We spent billions developing a perfectly good national waste storage facility, but people flipped their loving wigs at the thought that nuclear waste would actually be transported through their towns on the way to Yucca mountain, and people in that state flipped their loving wigs at the thought of having a perfectly good national waste storage facility in their big enormous honking useless desert of a state, so it never happened, and instead we store it in dry casks right at the reactors that produced it because that's sooo much better. Besides, high-level waste is only a big issue for archaic fuel cycles based around the production of material for nuclear weapons. In a nuclear-sane world we'd be building fast reactors and using all those useful transuranics and fission fragments in spent nuclear fuel as fuel in a newer reactor.
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Hargrimm posted:I think I remember reading a fan theory that in Mad Max, it's only Australia that is the post-apocalyptic hellscape, not a worldwide disaster situation. The rest of the world is still chugging along just fine, having quarantined the Aussies and put them out of their minds. The salt plane mate, what do you think you could drive across for 30 days and not find any human beings? Because that sounds like the Pacific Ocean to me
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Hargrimm posted:I think I remember reading a fan theory that in Mad Max, it's only Australia that is the post-apocalyptic hellscape, not a worldwide disaster situation. The rest of the world is still chugging along just fine, having quarantined the Aussies and put them out of their minds. I don't know how old that theory is but it's implied in Fury Road that the ocean has been reduced to one giant salt flat. If that's the case I doubt the rest of the world would be just hunky dory. E: f,b
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