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Alkydere posted:They'd have to be early game ones. The enemy -> builder mulching is done only by their unique warrior. And I'm not sure how unique traits are carried over in unit upgrades in VI (probably completely arbitrarily like in V). Eagle warriors are surprisingly strong. They have 28 strength compared to 20 for the warrior and get a bonus versus spear units. With a promotion or a few luxury resources you could probably use eagle warriors to fight swordsmen(35 strength) if you wanted to.
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Gamesguy posted:Eagle warriors are surprisingly strong. They have 28 strength compared to 20 for the warrior and get a bonus versus spear units. Ah, good to know they'll likely be good for a second, maybe third war too! I really don't know the details/numbers because I haven't been watching streams. Wanna keep it fairly fresh for myself (and avoid hype-overload).
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Also, that combat bonus goes to every Aztec combat unit (including religious units?), not just the Eagle Warriors. Most unique traits of other civs seem to add +5 strength for specific units or situations. If the Well of Souls site is anything to go by, there are at least twenty-four luxury resources the Aztec could potentially take, each giving +1 combat bonus. Even having a fraction of those luxuries makes them dangerous, and if you have a luxury he doesn't have, Montezuma's agenda probably guarantees a war between you and him. I'd imagine you'd want to take him out ASAP.
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Davincie posted:they have each others pictures... I mean I don't know why people are saying daughter specifically, the relationship is depicted very vaguely.
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Ew, yeah. I wonder if the ability counts trading, too; if so, you don't necessarily want to trade with the Aztecs either (but conversely get even more out of trades than most people and want to be trading with anyone you're not murdering probably). Jeez.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I mean I don't know why people are saying daughter specifically, the relationship is depicted very vaguely. Because she looks significantly younger than him, and people are generally charitable, so they assume "daughter" instead of "child bride."
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Pretty sure that early Monty and Scythia plays are going to involve just murdering the poo poo out of the nearest city state(s) as an alternative to building settlers. I have a feeling that in a patch somewhere down the line, city-states will start with ancient walls, just to avoid aggressive civs from getting a stronger start because they murdered the nearest city-state for a better city than they could settle and get up.
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Huh, Steam's giving me the option to preload the game on my Mac. Does this mean a simultaneous PC / Mac release?
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Peas and Rice posted:Huh, Steam's giving me the option to preload the game on my Mac. Oh god I hope so, please update accordingly
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Peas and Rice posted:Huh, Steam's giving me the option to preload the game on my Mac.
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The one thing I take away from the whole 'settler/builder incraesing costs' thing is that warfare is now a much better way to expand your empire. Capture a city stuffed with districts? Score!
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Serephina posted:The one thing I take away from the whole 'settler/builder incraesing costs' thing is that warfare is now a much better way to expand your empire. Capture a city stuffed with districts? Score! counterpoint: War Weariness
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Captain Gordon posted:counterpoint: War Weariness Also, conquered cities don't grow unless you a) get a peace deal ceding control or b) you wipe the enemy player off the map.
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Alkydere posted:Also, conquered cities don't grow unless you a) get a peace deal ceding control or b) you wipe the enemy player off the map. Doesn't apply with city-states. Edit: Well I guess that's technically B.
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Sure, but CS bonuses are pretty significant, so you might not want to simply conquer them.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Oh god I hope so, please update accordingly I won't have a Mac that can hope to run it until Thursday but I'll update then.
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Alkydere posted:Also, conquered cities don't grow unless you a) get a peace deal ceding control or b) you wipe the enemy player off the map. Yes, but they produce, don't they? And if you can take one city, you've already won the war. The city now not going up in pop for the ten turns it takes for the AI to stop crying is a better deal than what you got in Civ5. The standard smash&grab of civ5 warfare just got a lot more appealing.
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It was a mistake to preload, because now I've got the icon on my desktop and I keep clicking it.
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Ein Sexmonster posted:So if you're willing to do the vpn activation rigmarole you can start playing noon thursday est. Guess I'm taking Thursday off too.
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Will VPN shenanigans get you in hot water with Valve? It's fall break and I aint doing poo poo Thursday. It's so tempting.
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Roland Jones posted:Ew, yeah. I wonder if the ability counts trading, too; if so, you don't necessarily want to trade with the Aztecs either (but conversely get even more out of trades than most people and want to be trading with anyone you're not murdering probably). Jeez. I believe the ability specifically states "for each unique luxury resource with an improvement in Aztec territory".
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Kibbles n Shits posted:Will VPN shenanigans get you in hot water with Valve? It's fall break and I aint doing poo poo Thursday. It's so tempting. They will absolutely go after you if you violate regional pricing. They don't seem to care about unlocking stuff so much, as I've done it a couple times.
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The common wisdom is that VPNing to get another region's price will be punished, while VPNing to get a game a couple hours early is fine (and very popular).
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Kibbles n Shits posted:Will VPN shenanigans get you in hot water with Valve? It's fall break and I aint doing poo poo Thursday. It's so tempting. I've done it a few times without issue. As the others already said, as long as you don't do it to purchase something cheaper, you'll be okay. Just log out of Steam (log out, don't just close it), turn on the VPN, and log back into Steam. Then either keep the VPN on or use Steam in offline mode until your area's unlock or the game will relock.
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Gamesguy posted:I believe the ability specifically states "for each unique luxury resource with an improvement in Aztec territory". Ah, fair point. I didn't check that, but that's good to know.
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Sjonnar posted:Because she looks significantly younger than him, and people are generally charitable, so they assume "daughter" instead of "child bride." Fair, I can't really place their ages to be honest, maybe I'm having some trouble with the style and also I've been conditioned to assume a man and a woman being introduced together are more likely husband and wife rather than daughter and single father.
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It'll be 9pm PT time, which is good enough for me. I should be wrapping up Dragon Quest Builders by about then  . Still can't decide if I want to watch vids or not...they somehow feel spoilery to me, but I'm a bad player so I probably need the info.
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I'd say most of the preview videos demonstrate that you'll do fine without spoilers if you start on Prince and remember to fear the barbarian hordes.
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Yeah, if the barbs capture a city then they raze it to the ground, so you probably don't want to let them do that.
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CaptCommy posted:If anyone else waited forever to pre-order and missed the other discounts, wingamestore has it for 20% off with voucher 20offciv6 Thanks you, it still works! But it's saying '20% off Civ VI Mac Pre-Order', and I clearly want it for windows. Is that, uh, just a display error or something.
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Cosmic Afro posted:Thanks you, it still works! But it's saying '20% off Civ VI Mac Pre-Order', and I clearly want it for windows. It must be, because I ordered it just now and it's in the process of preloading on my Windows PC. After watching people play the pre-release version on YouTube, plus the discount code from this thread, I realize just how damned vulnerable I am to the Civilization franchise.
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paperwind posted:It must be, because I ordered it just now and it's in the process of preloading on my Windows PC. Did you have the Mac Preorder thingie, too? I suppose it's just weird. Cosmic Afro fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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Cosmic Afro posted:Did you have the Mac Preorder thingie, too? I did. It threw me, but I figured since it was a Steam key that it literally wouldn't matter. Now to pass the time until Friday by playing Civs of bygone years.
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Still waiting on my GamersGate key. Technically I don't need it yet, and it was earlier confirmed (or at least stated) that it would arrive within about twelve hours at the latest, but still. The anticipation is intense and I want to start preloading.
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Luckily the preload is only 4gb, which is about 10% the size of what I would expect of a game nowadays. Civ V with dlcs is around 8gb, also way less than I thought.
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Odobenidae posted:Luckily the preload is only 4gb, which is about 10% the size of what I would expect of a game nowadays. Civ V with dlcs is around 8gb, also way less than I thought. Strategy games tend to be smaller than most. Hearts of Iron 4 is 1.6 GB, for example.
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Don't need silly amounts of space for fmv or voice acting or super detailed textures, plus you proc generate most maps
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Fair, I can't really place their ages to be honest, maybe I'm having some trouble with the style and also I've been conditioned to assume a man and a woman being introduced together are more likely husband and wife rather than daughter and single father. Also fair. And perhaps she's intended to be his wife, and it's just the anime eyes making people assume she's significantly younger.
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