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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Nessus posted:

I believe the general opinion is that rule by anime women with big dicks would be greatly preferable to rule by libertarians

Oh thank god, I'm not the only one that thought that.

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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Curvature of Earth posted:

Nice to know plaid still exists in the future.

You know who else was "ahead of their time"? Popular Mechanics!

They predicted a remote-controlled kitchen in 1939. And it only took 75 years to come true! (Like all good technology predictions, PopMech thought the future would be exactly like the current day, except more complicated and, somehow, dumber.)

And they couldn't even imagine using your voice to tell your Google Home to play Far Side Virtual while you wait for its oven timer to finish. But don't tell anyone that all this computer stuff was figured out at universities (and, admittedly, the Navy, thanks Grace Hopper) before it became commercially viable

divabot posted:

As I posted in the PYF Dark Enlightenment Thinker thread:


Also "futarchy" is nowhere near as cool as you might think from the name.

Hahaha what, I'm someone who read the sequences and basically nothing else, and I thought the sequences were really helpful, so to hear all this extra stuff about them since joining SA is like, wow. Like, I read the first chapter of HPMOR, thought "That's neat, maybe I'll read more later," and then I hear it turns into more or less a self-insert fantasy. I suppose I started drifting after following Big Yud on Facebook for a while. I still do, but some of his posts made me realize
1) he lives in a total bubble, and I have to actively work to not be in my own bubble
2) the gently caress is all this libertarian poo poo what did you just say you should make a software package to reset a failed government how do you think that works it doesn't

Nonetheless, reading those sequences were a big step on my way to being able to articulate what causes people to be wrong on the Internet, and think differently about how to communicate with them, but I suppose more important to that was real-world experience e.g. talking to street preachers just to see how their thinking works after I ran out of lines of argument.

Also, how do you be scared of cluckolding in a community where everyone is polyamorous or tries to be? Just loving lol

I suspected then, and have a stronger suspicion now, that the overall community has a bias toward believing that methods are a substitute from gathering information. Except they created Givewell, which does hard factfinding about charities and promotes those with exceptional self-measurement and improvement, so I guess at the end of the day spergoids be spergoids for better or worse? The community is not a monolith, is what I'm gathering here.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

I thought this might be related: I don't know if anyone follows @Sweden on twitter (a twitter account given to different Swedes once a week), but this week's curator is a self-professed libertarian and prepper. It's gotten all the libertarians out of hiding, talking about how much they love this guy and how finally there's someone from that country that seems rational (etc. etc.).

Compared to, say, the last few weeks where people were actively coming out to troll a feminist that was "comfortable with her body," a Ph D whose job it was to study education and curricula, and a half-Swedish half-Vietnamese woman studying in Hong Kong who "wasn't really Swedish".

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Panzeh posted:

There are third parties that do that and absolutely no one knows about them.

And your point is? Spit it out already.

Just being known about does absolutely nothing for you if you don't have the local strength to get things done anywhere. The Green Party is nationally known: what good has that done them?

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

(I'm concerned I will regret asking this later but) which person in the relationship is the "cuckold?" The aggrieved husband, right? Cuckold in the syllabus sounds like a verb, but I don't know this vocabulary/concept well at all.

E: if you are putting the word cuckold on a syllabus, don't also include a book whose first author is named Cooter.

WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 18, 2016

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

WrenP-Complete posted:

(I'm concerned I will regret asking this later but) which person in the relationship is the "cuckold?" The aggrieved husband, right? Cuckold in the syllabus sounds like a verb, but I don't know this vocabulary/concept well at all.

Yes, the person being cheated on is the cuckold, traditionally the white husband who's white wife is having sex with a (superior) black man.

Cuckoldry refers to the act, the woman commits cuckoldry and the man is cuckolded.

Cuck.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Thus, "to cuck" someone means to make him a cuckhold by loving his wife.

Man, the sentences these discussions prompt me to write!

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

GunnerJ posted:

Thus, "to cuck" someone means to make him a cuckhold by loving his wife.

Man, the sentences these discussions prompt me to write!

But "to cuck" is a back-transformation, right?

I can't believe I'm pulling up n-grams to check this.

WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Oct 18, 2016

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

WrenP-Complete posted:

But "to cuck" is a back-transformation, right?

I don't know what that means! But if it means the noun came first and the verb developed from that, then yes I think so, and a very recent one.

eta: I can't believe I'm doing this, but by "recent" I mean "commonly used as a verb recently" and also I think that data drawn from books won't represent that since it's a... "conversational" term rather than a technical one that lots of books would use.

GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Oct 18, 2016

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
To cuck, or not to cuck, that is the question: Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer the cocks and balls of fertile bulls, or to take arms against a sea of phalluses, and by opposing screw them: to gently caress, to cum.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Curvature of Earth posted:

Nice to know plaid still exists in the future.

You know who else was "ahead of their time"? Popular Mechanics!

They predicted a remote-controlled kitchen in 1939. And it only took 75 years to come true! (Like all good technology predictions, PopMech thought the future would be exactly like the current day, except more complicated and, somehow, dumber.)

How do those drawers on the curved section work? They must be shallow as hell. Meanwhile, you have to get waist deep in the fridge to reach the stuff in the back.

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



So, here's some breaking news that might be interesting, especially in light of the whole "Government can't do anything right/Government has no business funding research" bullshit that Libertarians seem so desperately fond of masturbating to:

https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol

TL:DR version:

Scientists at Oak Ridge National Laboratory seem to have found a way to convert CO2 directly into ethanol, thus finding a way to turn a greenhouse gas directly into fuel. If this holds up and can be scaled, the US Government just made a major breakthrough when it comes to global warming.

You're loving welcome, Libertarians.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Joke's on you, they don't even acknowledge global warming as a real problem.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
Screw fuel, now we can drink global warming away. :v:

Sulphuric Asshole
Apr 25, 2003
Conservatives use "cuck", liberals use "bigot." I say let them have their labels.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Screw fuel, now we can drink global warming away. :v:

I'll drink to that!

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Screw fuel, now we can drink global warming away. :v:

And so the world was saved, unintentionally, by drunks.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

And that's how I met your mother!

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:

Conservatives use "cuck", liberals use "bigot." I say let them have their labels.

Oh, yay, you came. I already had my fun with you, I'll let the others have you.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

And so the world was saved, unintentionally, by drunks.

I will take one for the team and drink as many CO2 screwdrivers as possible (that requires oranges too, so it's a double whammy of CO2 reduction)

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Who What Now posted:

Oh, yay, you came. I already had my fun with you, I'll let the others have you.

Friends! One or two at a time this time, okay?! And I may appoint myself as their ombirdswoman.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

TLM3101 posted:

So, here's some breaking news that might be interesting, especially in light of the whole "Government can't do anything right/Government has no business funding research" bullshit that Libertarians seem so desperately fond of masturbating to:

https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol

TL:DR version:

Scientists at Oak Ridge National Laboratory seem to have found a way to convert CO2 directly into ethanol, thus finding a way to turn a greenhouse gas directly into fuel. If this holds up and can be scaled, the US Government just made a major breakthrough when it comes to global warming.

You're loving welcome, Libertarians.

While under an applied voltage. So we could take clean energy and use it to produce fossil fuel which we can then burn! Awesome!

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Ron Jeremy posted:

While under an applied voltage. So we could take clean energy and use it to produce fossil fuel which we can then burn! Awesome!

It has some really cool implications for energy storage! Instead of needing expensive batteries, just make tanks of fuel and burn that instead. If this really does work as advertised, there's some pretty amazing things that could be done.

Sulphuric Asshole
Apr 25, 2003

TLM3101 posted:

So, here's some breaking news that might be interesting, especially in light of the whole "Government can't do anything right/Government has no business funding research" bullshit that Libertarians seem so desperately fond of masturbating to:

https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol

TL:DR version:

Scientists at Oak Ridge National Laboratory seem to have found a way to convert CO2 directly into ethanol, thus finding a way to turn a greenhouse gas directly into fuel. If this holds up and can be scaled, the US Government just made a major breakthrough when it comes to global warming.

You're loving welcome, Libertarians.


Researchers at Stanford made this discovery in 2014*. It still takes more energy than you get out of it to produce the ethanol, in addition to the energy costs of capturing the C02 to begin with. This is most likely not a solution that will feasibly restore C02 levels or be carbon neutral. This is not a major breakthrough that will solve global warming.

*Yes, with NSF grants, I'm aware.

Sulphuric Asshole fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 18, 2016

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:

Conservatives use "cuck", liberals use "bigot." I say let them have their labels.
I missed something. What's the context here?

(for this thing you're quoting from somewhere else, right? :ohdear:)

Sulphuric Asshole
Apr 25, 2003
There was discussion of the definition of cuck a handful of posts above that. I injected myself into the discussion because I don't pick up on social cues that my presence is not wanted.

Sulphuric Asshole fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 18, 2016

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:

There was discussion of the definition of cuck a handful of posts above that. I injected myself into the discussion because I don't pick up on social cues that my presence is not wanted.

I'm not sure this is true. I think you are very welcome here. :)

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:

Researchers at Harvard made this discovery in 2014*. It still takes more energy than you get out of it to produce the ethanol, in addition to the energy costs of capturing the C02 to begin with. This is most likely not a solution that will feasibly restore C02 levels or be carbon neutral. This is not a major breakthrough that will solve global warming.

*Yes, with NSF grants, I'm aware.

The paper published by the scientists at ORNL doesn't cite any papers from Harvard-based scientists. Something they'd have to do if Harvard discovered it first.

Sulphuric Asshole
Apr 25, 2003
Stanford. Freudian slip.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
It's a pretty cool bit of science, it's just not some sort of gamechanging solution. So, science journalism.

Converting air back into fuel using electricity is an active area of research. It basically rests on making it efficient enough, using electricity cheap or inconvenient enough and economics. Expect to see lots of incremental improvements for many years until it suddenly hits a tipping point, much like solar.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



divabot posted:

It's a pretty cool bit of science, it's just not some sort of gamechanging solution. So, science journalism.

Converting air back into fuel using electricity is an active area of research. It basically rests on making it efficient enough, using electricity cheap or inconvenient enough and economics. Expect to see lots of incremental improvements for many years until it suddenly hits a tipping point, much like solar.

Plants already do this, without the need for electricity.

Algae farming is a far more promising method for carbon capture/biofuel than artificial photosynthesis.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Just think of the novelty vodka market though.

Send an automated probe with this system to the red planet and a bottling module to send mars vodka back home.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

It's either carbon sequestration or the creation of fuel. At this point, as other people have said, plants do carbon sequestion better than anything else, and fuel is energy negative still way the gently caress more expensive than putting a hole in the ground and pumping up petrochemicals. I'm all for academic research, but this isn't going to put a dent in global warming. We need to stop burning poo poo and stop clearing forests.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Just build an entire nuclear plant dedicated to transforming greenhouse gasses into booze. The government funds the project up front and recoups the cost through sales of EnviroholPatent Pending

Themagicalgoat
Oct 5, 2016
Does anyone have any info on the connections of libertarians to Star Trek? Just based on anecdotal meetings with libertarians, they love Star Trek. But they see no tension there. Do they picture the post-scarcity world springing forth from unfettered capitalism? Do they thing socialism and diversity comes after capitalism? Friedman et al. seem to make some marxist assumptions in their fundamental economic theories, so maybe it's like that? Even just some nerd libertarian talking about star trek that I could laugh at would be great.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Themagicalgoat posted:

Does anyone have any info on the connections of libertarians to Star Trek?

Libertarianism's disturbing attraction to those with novel ideas regarding the age of consent is well established.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

The enterprise is a authoritarian hierarchy where the lower ranks exist only as a plot device to be killed off on foreign military interventions?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
They're into Star Trek because they're actually pedophiles, OP.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Themagicalgoat posted:

Does anyone have any info on the connections of libertarians to Star Trek? Just based on anecdotal meetings with libertarians, they love Star Trek. But they see no tension there. Do they picture the post-scarcity world springing forth from unfettered capitalism? Do they thing socialism and diversity comes after capitalism? Friedman et al. seem to make some marxist assumptions in their fundamental economic theories, so maybe it's like that? Even just some nerd libertarian talking about star trek that I could laugh at would be great.

On a serious note: my guess is that compared to, say, Star Wars, which is liked by a lot of conservative people because of its stark good vs. evil imagery (ignoring the fact that while the Jedi are "good," these people would most likely be the ones applauding Palpatine upon establishing an authoritarian empire), Star Trek is less about moral struggles and more about intellectual superiority: the crew of the starship Enterprise go from planet to planet showing how wrong the backwards savages are and how right they are. It also probably reflects their belief in the "freedom" of the (final) frontier, even though the civilization that they bring is antithetical to the one upon which they've built their philosophy. This also reflects the evangelical nature of libertarians.

The only difference is that while libertarians see themselves as guardians of the non-aggression principle, they really don't like taking "no" for an answer. However, on Star Trek, they actually usually practice what they preach (which is more than I can say for libertarian ethics).

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Themagicalgoat posted:

Does anyone have any info on the connections of libertarians to Star Trek? Just based on anecdotal meetings with libertarians, they love Star Trek. But they see no tension there. Do they picture the post-scarcity world springing forth from unfettered capitalism? Do they thing socialism and diversity comes after capitalism? Friedman et al. seem to make some marxist assumptions in their fundamental economic theories, so maybe it's like that? Even just some nerd libertarian talking about star trek that I could laugh at would be great.

The cross over is people who want to gently caress kids, not economics.
The bad ones all hate DS9, it's the way to tell.

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