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So I guess we were jealous of Norways way of picking Nobel Prize Laureates.
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MiddleOne posted:Oh you poor soul Hey, we can't ALL have jobs in the future!
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Oct 14, 2016 01:39
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Historians have a perfectly viable career path in being advisors for historical dramas.
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Cardiac posted:So I guess we were jealous of Norways way of picking Nobel Prize Laureates. Du veit at ikke Norge deler ut alle nobelprisene, ikke sant?
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Alhazred posted:Du veit at ikke Norge deler ut alle nobelprisene, ikke sant? Vi deler faktisk bare ut én, Cardiac
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Alhazred posted:Du veit at ikke Norge deler ut alle nobelprisene, ikke sant? Tongue in cheek doesn't go well on the internet apparently. Also, the passive aggressiveness of Norwegians always cracks me up. It was more a jab at the yesterdays Nobel Prize winner in literature, Bob Dylan, which caused a literal and glorious meltdown among Swedish "culture" journalists. In some ways it is similar to Norway giving Obama, Kissinger and Arafat the Peace Prize for interesting reasons. This year you did it well with the Columbian President (as well as not giving it to Farc).
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Cardiac posted:It was more a jab at the yesterdays Nobel Prize winner in literature, Bob Dylan, which caused a literal and glorious meltdown among Swedish "culture" journalists. It was a loving hilarious decision. There was a big article in DN leading up to the nomination about how American authors have grown completely disenfranchised with the literature price as they almost never get nominated. This must be the most 'be careful what you wish for' reaction ever. Cardiac posted:This year you did it well with the Columbian President (as well as not giving it to Farc). I don't think the Norwegian committee ever got that the peace price is not supposed to be ironic.
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MiddleOne posted:It was a loving hilarious decision. There was a big article in DN leading up to the nomination about how American authors have grown completely disenfranchised with the literature price as they almost never get nominated. This must be the most 'be careful what you wish for' reaction ever. Best quote yesterday was from Per Svensson, who called it a Trumpification of the Nobel Prize. Way to go in devaluing an expression.
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MiddleOne posted:I don't think the Norwegian committee ever got that the peace price is not supposed to be ironic. The best way to understand peace prize nominations is to realize that the prize is not for people/organizations who work for peace, but for highlighting conflicts that are calming down and incentivize people in power to not gently caress it up. Edit: ZZZZzzzzzzzz Zudgemud fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Oct 14, 2016 |
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Dylan is a fine choice but he's a pop singer and also very old and white so hmm i can see why DN kultur writers don't like it
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Prize, not price. :|
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Beeswax posted:Prize, not price. :| Turns out Norway is really keen on wars happening and so each year forces whoever has done the worst job at sustaining global killing to pay a hefty fine for their sins against the blood god Pretty metal imo
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Angepain posted:Turns out Norway is really keen on wars happening and so each year forces whoever has done the worst job at sustaining global killing to pay a hefty fine for their sins against the blood god This is true.
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Wild Horses posted:Dylan is a fine choice but he's a pop singer and also very old and white so hmm i can see why DN kultur writers don't like it No DN are big fans actually, it's everyone else that is against. Beeswax posted:Prize, not price. :| Prize price prise pris
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I love Dylan so I'm good. Also, the prizes are handed out on my birthday in December so gonna have a sweetass party with only Dylan music. Noone will come. (They never did anyway).
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BigglesSWE posted:I love Dylan so I'm good. Also, the prizes are handed out on my birthday in December so gonna have a sweetass party with only Dylan music. Noone will come. (They never did anyway). Some people disagree https://twitter.com/sr_ekot/status/786563164745961472?s=09
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freelancemoth posted:Some people disagree Well aware of this. It's a real shame, especially since the overall numbers are like 800+ men and then 40ish women throughout the years. Maybe next year I guess?
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freelancemoth posted:Some people disagree Eh, SR would disagree about anyone who isn't a transgender bilesbian black-Asian-Arabic Shintoist-Muslim. For a fun comparison, all the chairs for the important committees (gently caress economics) are female.
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freelancemoth posted:Some people disagree I can't help but notice they're all white.
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ThaumPenguin posted:This is true. Considering that we have a pretty big weapon industry it's at the very least not a outright lie.
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Alhazred posted:Considering that we have a pretty big weapon industry it's at the very least not a outright lie. At least we're not making cluster bombs anymore?  e: At least I think we used to make it.
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ThaumPenguin posted:At least we're not making cluster bombs anymore? Who made the bombkapsel 90 btw? That thing was magical
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Who made the bombkapsel 90 btw? That thing was magical Deutsche Aerospace AG, later merged with EADS (Airbus' military division). It wasn't ~swedish steel~ 
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Honestly, the whole Dylan-meltdown by feminists would be pretty funny if it wasn't so ugly, at times. Publishing a column in metro where you go on a diatribe against men who like Bob Dylan, generally disparaging male musicians and ending it with "Learn to lick pussy, you'll have more use of that than playing guitar" is incredibly gross and offensive. Unrelated question: What do you guys follow to stay up to date on the political climate in Sweden? I used to absorb poo poo through osmosis but since becoming an expat I feel as if I don't have my finger on the pulse of things anymore, and I'd at least try to not create a little bubble divorced from reality for myself. That's how you get real crazy opinions.
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McCloud posted:Honestly, the whole Dylan-meltdown by feminists would be pretty funny if it wasn't so ugly, at times. Publishing a column in metro where you go on a diatribe against men who like Bob Dylan, generally disparaging male musicians and ending it with "Learn to lick pussy, you'll have more use of that than playing guitar" is incredibly gross and offensive. Did I just have a stroke?
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McCloud posted:Unrelated question: What do you guys follow to stay up to date on the political climate in Sweden? I used to absorb poo poo through osmosis but since becoming an expat I feel as if I don't have my finger on the pulse of things anymore, and I'd at least try to not create a little bubble divorced from reality for myself. That's how you get real crazy opinions. Flashback Well, not any longer because it becomes repetitive. It however provides the best insight into the mentality SD supporters and there are some posters which are actually literate. Most is crap like GBS though I mostly use Twitter, which gives a sort of mixed picture depending on your interests but can provide some form of overview. Dagens Samhälle is pretty good for debate articles, since it is not as politicised. Ledaresidorna.se for sort of an inside of the internal politics of S.
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Or you know just SR. Unbiased an encompassing all from state to local politics.
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SR's more specialized programmes are just so loving good. Is there even anything even remotely close to Medierna's meta reporting anywhere? Who does interviews of Lördagsintervjuns caliber? What about Konflikt's foreign reporting? And Cecilia Uddén is a national treasure.
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TheFluff posted:- What about Konflikt's foreign reporting? And Cecilia Uddén is a national treasure - Word
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McCloud posted:Publishing a column in metro where you go on a diatribe against men who like Bob Dylan, generally disparaging male musicians and ending it with "Learn to lick pussy, you'll have more use of that than playing guitar" is incredibly gross and offensive. that was so dumb. just brain fart all over the already poo poo metro pages
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MiddleOne posted:Or you know just SR. Unbiased an encompassing all from state to local politics. "Unbiased" as in pretty red.
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Cardiac posted:"Unbiased" as in pretty red. not really, no e: no seriously why exactly do you think SR's news reporting and general journalism is "red"? I really ain't seein' it TheFluff fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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MiddleOne posted:Name one more on average trustworthy source in the Swedish media landscape. Got me there. As in on average trustworthy they are all bad. But admittedly it is hard to be biased in short news clips. Also http://politikfakta.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/SVT_partisympatier.pdf 54% MP ar SR. Less than 30% total for the 2 main Swedish parties tells you something about the worldview among the journalists at SR.
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Just tells me that living in the urban part of Sweden and having a journalist degree skews towards certain conclusions about society. Just like I'd expect someone with an engineering degree to skew towards policies based on rationalism and cultural students to skew towards those based on structuralism. I'm more concerned about outcome in this regard and SR is way better than anyone else (including SVT) due to their decentralized structure and at sometimes absurdly high regard for the un-partisan work-ethic. DN, SVD and Dagens Samhäll do okay in this regard as well (disregarding opinion pieces of course) but not as well. Sometimes I just wish you could attend a goon-meet or two Cardiac. We agree on so much but disagree so hard on the details when it comes to certain subjects.  cinci zoo sniper posted:
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TheFluff posted:SR's more specialized programmes are just so loving good. Is there even anything even remotely close to Medierna's meta reporting anywhere? Who does interviews of Lördagsintervjuns caliber? What about Konflikt's foreign reporting? And Cecilia Uddén is a national treasure. Someone who is biased and unprofessional as gently caress is a national treasure? http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=5682578 . SVT and SR is utter poo poo and the sooner those two awful propaganda mouth pieces are destroyed the better. Thankfully young people don't use them so the willingness to pay for that poo poo will go down and SVT has hired Jan Helin to make the process even quicker.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Someone who is biased and unprofessional as gently caress is a national treasure? http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=5682578 . SVT and SR is utter poo poo and the sooner those two awful propaganda mouth pieces are destroyed the better. Thankfully young people don't use them so the willingness to pay for that poo poo will go down and SVT has hired Jan Helin to make the process even quicker. 
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