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Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

peter banana posted:

It prolongs the life of your car and means you don't have to scrape ice off in a blizzard when you're already late for work, you absolute maniac. I'd step over my own mother's dead body for a garage to keep my car in. Five years of on-street parking in Toronto have rusted that poo poo through.

Emphasis on all year, I completely rearrange the garage for the winter to fit two cars in there.

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Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Saltin posted:

To be fair, Amazon has been kicking the poo poo out of most brick and mortar retailers following a very similar strategy (actually losses). It's a bona-fide strategy. I doubt this is what is going on in Hootsuite though. They're just retards.

And their own ineptitude aside, they've also hosed the timing of a potential IPO or whatever, now that it's very clear that Twitter itself doesn't have a bright future (not without drastic changes).

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
:lol: the Vancouver tech industry https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/584dig/stay_away_from_mogoca_they_are_just_a_predatory/

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
.

James Baud fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Aug 25, 2018

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

My old 1950's building only has 12 garages for about 30ish apartments and we were really lucky to get one. Other than some scrap wood and a small amount of junk, it's strictly car storage. The cars that have to park in the lane get absolutely covered in seagull poo poo and sometimes get broken into by homeless people or scraped by idiot teenage delivery drivers. It's also $75 a month for a garage so I'm not going to waste it on junk storage. The dumpster is where you store junk. Most people seem to use their garage for a vehicle but a couple people have it jammed with storage. I don't know why you're living in a small apartment when you have enough furniture and poo poo to fill a McMansion. Go rent a storage locker or sell/chuck that poo poo.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://twitter.com/TorontoSentinel/status/788170566129819648?s=09

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

But fintech u guys

F I n t e c h

Like everything else in Canada, the government isn't going to proactively shut these assholes down because it would be anti small business. Better leave this to send regulation. Btw mister marginal borrower here's your cra audit notice for not reporting your tips.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Baronjutter posted:

$75 a month for a garage

Yet a dishwasher is a ridiculous bougie luxury? :D

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I've got some real estate legal porn for you thread:


http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2016/2016onca747/2016onca747.html?autocompleteStr=2016%20onca%20747&autocompletePos=1

It's the appeal of owners who planned to rent their condos out in Toronto's Trump Tower as hotel rooms.

Some info on how bad these folks got scammed:

quote:

The Estimates contained in the PowerPoint presentation set out different sample units. The units were described in the PowerPoint presentation with the following information:
• the purchase price of the unit, ranging from $784,000 to $843,000;
• monthly common expense fees, ranging from $1,827 to $2,081;
• property taxes, estimated to be at 2% of the purchase price;
• mortgage interest, estimated to be at a 6% interest rate;
• a daily occupancy (housekeeping) fee of $60;
• the average occupancy rate of the hotel, ranging from 55% to 75%;
• the estimated daily room rental rate, ranging from $550 to $600;
• the yearly return earned by an investor in the hotel unit, which, depending on the unit and occupancy rate range from $18,144.41 to $63,627.70;
• a bottom line, bolded annual “return on cash invested”, ranging from 6.46% to 21.57%; and
• the percentage amount of the purchase price to be mortgaged.

quote:

[29] When Mr. Singh asked Ms. Zak if the $550 per night room rate was high, she said no because the hotel was a Trump property and would be a five-star hotel. When he asked about the occupancy rates of between 55% and 75%, she replied that since the Trump Hotel would be new and the “buzz” about it would be great, the hotel would be fully occupied.

Spoiler: It has a kind of happy ending!

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
I'm upset the plaintiffs fit a satisfactory result. gently caress anyone who buys a hotel room

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Baronjutter posted:

My old 1950's building only has 12 garages for about 30ish apartments and we were really lucky to get one. Other than some scrap wood and a small amount of junk, it's strictly car storage. The cars that have to park in the lane get absolutely covered in seagull poo poo and sometimes get broken into by homeless people or scraped by idiot teenage delivery drivers. It's also $75 a month for a garage so I'm not going to waste it on junk storage. The dumpster is where you store junk. Most people seem to use their garage for a vehicle but a couple people have it jammed with storage. I don't know why you're living in a small apartment when you have enough furniture and poo poo to fill a McMansion. Go rent a storage locker or sell/chuck that poo poo.

The Winnipeg advantage right here

namaste faggots posted:

I'm upset the plaintiffs fit a satisfactory result. gently caress anyone who buys a hotel room

I wish they both lost somehow as well

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

namaste faggots posted:

I'm upset the plaintiffs fit a satisfactory result. gently caress anyone who buys a hotel room

It is perfectly fine to give money to people who were misled from from the pockets of the people who misled them. The problem is when the people who took the money are now broke to, and people get the idea the public should provide compensation for terrible investment choices.

Seriously though, just try to wrap your mind around people lost this much money buying downtown Toronto real estate while the bubble still has not popped.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Lexicon posted:

Yet a dishwasher is a ridiculous bougie luxury? :D

Yeah, those are only found in newer condos and those generally rent for a few hundred more a month. The problem is that even though landlords want to add dishwashers the city won't let them for some dumb building and plumbing code reasons, so the vast majority of our rental stock will forever not have dishwashers unless they're gutted and re-plumbed. Same for washer dryer.

Yet I've been to tons of 1800's european apartments with ancient kitchens that they managed to fit a little mini dish washer and a stacking washer/dryer in. I don't know if we're just way more fussy about certain code things, or if our lovely wood frame apartment buildings and plumbing are so much more vulnerable and can't possibly be adapted. I mean how hard is it? You want a washer, that only needs a drain and water supply, nothing more scary than a bathtub. A dryer just need electricity and a vent, so vent out the side of the building, or not, because units that don't need exterior venting are pretty normal in europe. A dishwasher once again only needs a water supply and a drain, nothing worse than a sink. What gives?

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Baronjutter posted:

Yeah, those are only found in newer condos and those generally rent for a few hundred more a month. The problem is that even though landlords want to add dishwashers the city won't let them for some dumb building and plumbing code reasons, so the vast majority of our rental stock will forever not have dishwashers unless they're gutted and re-plumbed. Same for washer dryer.

Yet I've been to tons of 1800's european apartments with ancient kitchens that they managed to fit a little mini dish washer and a stacking washer/dryer in. I don't know if we're just way more fussy about certain code things, or if our lovely wood frame apartment buildings and plumbing are so much more vulnerable and can't possibly be adapted. I mean how hard is it? You want a washer, that only needs a drain and water supply, nothing more scary than a bathtub. A dryer just need electricity and a vent, so vent out the side of the building, or not, because units that don't need exterior venting are pretty normal in europe. A dishwasher once again only needs a water supply and a drain, nothing worse than a sink. What gives?

They also use less water than sink washing. It is also possible to purchase dishwashers which connect to a sink.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Maneck posted:

They also use less water than sink washing. It is also possible to purchase dishwashers which connect to a sink.

They take up valuable counter space, but yeah. My friend had one in his last apartment because he had counter space to spare.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

My kitchen is a sink with about 3' on either side, and on the other wall a little 2' section of counter between the fridge and stove. No room for poo poo :(

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Baronjutter posted:

My kitchen is a sink with about 3' on either side, and on the other wall a little 2' section of counter between the fridge and stove. No room for poo poo :(

Sounds like someone needs to get on the property ladder. :smug:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

McGavin posted:

Sounds like someone needs to get on the property treadmill. :smug:

My rent's gone up about 20% since I moved in 3 years ago so my paper gains are terrific. Wait, is that how this works?

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Fried Watermelon posted:

Well the more things you have the better you are as a person

hence why homeless are horrible people

Clearly you've never seen a homeless camp.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://twitter.com/tamsinrm/status/788454237776719872?s=09

Hey look you guys Romania's housing market is hot af.

Maybe everyone wants to move there

It's the best place on earth

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Baronjutter posted:

My rent's gone up about 20% since I moved in 3 years ago so my paper gains are terrific. Wait, is that how this works?

How did they manage this? Fixed term lease?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

leftist heap posted:

How did they manage this? Fixed term lease?

Yep, best place on earth.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Guess all the romanian travelers decided to get on the property ladder. Don't be left behind.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
My 30 year old rental building has a dishwasher :smuggo:

No in-suite laundry though.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Come to Romania for the RE-Mania!

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

quote:

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/10/18/michael-chong-calls-for-cmhc-privatization/

Michael Chong calls for CMHC privatization

Tory leadership candidate says plan would lower house prices, free up business financing


Conservative leadership candidate Michael Chong says he would privatize the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation’s (CMHC) mortgage insurance and securitization business to make housing more affordable for Canadians.

“While many factors have contributed to skyrocketing housing prices, the single biggest factor has been the massive increase in government-backed insurance and securitization in recent years,” Chong said in a press conference on Parliament Hill Tuesday.

“Over the last decade alone, CMHC has doubled its guarantees in force (up to $520 billion). The International Monetary Fund has found that government intervention in housing finance has amplified mortgage credit growth, leading to these skyrocketing housing prices.”

Chong said home prices across Canada are now five-and-a-half times average household income — much higher than the historical average of 3.5 times household income — and that getting the government out of the mortgage insurance business would ensure more sustainable mortgage credit growth rates and lower housing prices.

It also would help small and medium-sized businesses, he argued.

“The IMF has said CMHC’s expansion of mortgage credit has made it much more difficult for small to medium sized businesses in Canada to get financing. This is because banks have an incentive to focus on mortgage lending and not on lending to small and medium sized businesses. This has resulted in the allocation of capital away from more productive uses, such as business investment,” he said.

Then-Finance Minister Jim Flaherty raised the possibility of privatizing CMHC four years ago. Chong stressed that his plan isn’t radical — and he doesn’t think everything CMHC does is problematic.

“Now CMHC also provides direct assistance to low-income Canadians through affordable housing programs. And to be clear, I believe that the federal government should continue to play this role in building affordable housing for Canadians,” he said.

In addition, Chong said he would strengthen the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions to make sure there’s sufficient oversight and supervision of Canada’s housing finance sector to protect Canadians from bailing out banks that take “undue risks”.

:prepop:

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
How exactly would the CHMC be privatized? Does the government no longer guarantee the loans making the CHMC a private insurer? Or is this a privatize the profits and socialize the losses situation?

If the CHMC was privatized without underwriting guarantee by Canada I would expect the availability of insurance to crater to anyone deemed risky and the fees to skyrocket.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

cowofwar posted:

If the CHMC was privatized without underwriting guarantee by Canada I would expect the availability of insurance to crater to anyone deemed risky and the fees to skyrocket.

Sounds perfect!

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

cowofwar posted:

How exactly would the CHMC be privatized? Does the government no longer guarantee the loans making the CHMC a private insurer? Or is this a privatize the profits and socialize the losses situation?

If the CHMC was privatized without underwriting guarantee by Canada I would expect the availability of insurance to crater to anyone deemed risky and the fees to skyrocket.

I'm 87% sure of this: the government isn't required to back CMHC, CMHC holds what they consider adequate capitalization. It's already an insulated crown corp and it's basically an insurance business. To sell it: here's our assets, our liabilities, revenues and expenses, how much would you pay to have this?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Is the implication that a private cmhc would be reticent to lend to as many broke rear end thousandaires really true though?

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
it makes way too much sense to privatize the chmc so of course it will never happen.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Postess with the Mostest posted:

I'm 87% sure of this: the government isn't required to back CMHC, CMHC holds what they consider adequate capitalization. It's already an insulated crown corp and it's basically an insurance business. To sell it: here's our assets, our liabilities, revenues and expenses, how much would you pay to have this?

What the heck is an insulated crown corp?

There is no way that CMHC hold adequate capitalization, because that would require Liberal and Conservative governments to both ignore billions in a Crown Corporation, which is a farcical position to hold.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Seems CHMC has $545B in liabilities and around $15B in reserves according to this dude.

http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2014/01/cmhc-reserves-revisited.html

Seems like privatization would immediately create a too big too fail beast that would immediately lobby for default protection by the government.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


cowofwar posted:

Seems CHMC has $545B in liabilities and around $15B in reserves according to this dude.

http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2014/01/cmhc-reserves-revisited.html

Seems like privatization would immediately create a too big too fail beast that would immediately lobby for default protection by the government.

Just think about the million dollar bonuses that would trickle down though.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Powershift posted:

Just think about the million dollar bonuses that would trickle down though.
It would no doubt be purchased by a consortium of Chinese and Saudi entities so a huge pile of money would be sucked out of the country.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


cowofwar posted:

It would no doubt be purchased by a consortium of Chinese and Saudi entities so a huge pile of money would be sucked out of the country.

And the re-invested through vancouver condos and civilian stomping armoured vehicles.


It's the ciiiiirrrrccccllllleeeeee.....

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

ocrumsprug posted:

What the heck is an insulated crown corp?

There is no way that CMHC hold adequate capitalization, because that would require Liberal and Conservative governments to both ignore billions in a Crown Corporation, which is a farcical position to hold.

Same as any other corporation. The government owns the shares the same as you would if you bought Nortel stock. If Nortel went bust and owed millions to its employees, the shareholders would not be responsible to pay it out. Presumably if CMHC went bust, the government would recapitalize it because they think the CMHC is a worthwhile thing to have but I don't think they would be required to? I dunno, maybe there's a special law that says they have to. This guy seems to think the banks would do it, http://business.financialpost.com/news/fp-street/the-price-of-taxpayer-support-for-canadian-banks

cowofwar posted:

Seems CHMC has $545B in liabilities and around $15B in reserves according to this dude.

http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2014/01/cmhc-reserves-revisited.html

Seems like privatization would immediately create a too big too fail beast that would immediately lobby for default protection by the government.

I don't think I would call the $545b a liability, that's probably the entire amount of every single mortgage they insured, Canada was only around $900b in total mortgage debt at the time. I don't know how insurance companies calculate liability though, it can't be if every single claim cashes in for the full amount at once. Here's their actual numbers.

https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/nero/nere/2016/2016-05-09-1000.cfm
https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/about/anrecopl/anre/upload/quarterly-financial-results-business-supplement-2015-q4.pdf

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Powershift posted:

And the re-invested through vancouver condos and civilian stomping armoured vehicles.


It's the ciiiiirrrrccccllllleeeeee.....
Cut down trees, send to America, import value added furniture at high cost from America. #traditionalcanadianwayoflife

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


It's like paying more is a national passtime :allears:

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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


TerminalSaint posted:

Clearly you've never seen a homeless camp.

Then they wouldn't be homeless if they had tents :colbert:

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