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Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I love trials, but looking at the destiny page in twitch.tv in the weekends make me sad, since is page after page of trials carries. Is rare to see somebody doing the raid or assaults or patrol, just chilling around.

Trials os the second best thing on destiny, but for some reason gets the best gear and now 400 LL.

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Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
I'm just glad that you can hit end game LL with Crucible now. Remember when that was not the case? I felt bad and I'm in no way a PvP guy.

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

xzzy posted:

Unfortunately the problem is that trials sucks because it's nothing but deep sighs and lag switchers.

Yeah okay zaphod, have you even played trials since rise of iron? It's an all you can rape buffet

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

Yeah okay zaphod, have you even played trials since rise of iron? It's an all you can rape buffet

Sorry, wrong thread in joke. :laugh:

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Ularg posted:

I'm just glad that you can hit end game LL with Crucible now. Remember when that was not the case? I felt bad and I'm in no way a PvP guy.

PvP people need to experience the fear to face overpowered raid weapons (at least until they get patched). Is the natural order of things. The way it is now, may be fair and more fun. But is unnatural. I predict something strange and evil will happen. Toads and carps raining. Dogs and cats living together. Womens becoming bipolar.

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Tei posted:

PvP people need to experience the fear to face overpowered raid weapons (at least until they get patched). Is the natural order of things. The way it is now, may be fair and more fun. But is unnatural. I predict something strange and evil will happen. Toads and carps raining. Dogs and cats living together. Womens becoming bipolar.

lmao people who are good at PvP have no problem with PvE

Pozload Escobar fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Oct 19, 2016

Snostorm
Sep 9, 2013

Ularg posted:

Switching to the Jumper control scheme to do better at Crucible and unfuck my cramped hand from the claw grip. Old habits die hard.

Controllers with paddles like Scuf or Sharq are amazing for this. I use a Sharq myself.

Drag
Sep 23, 2004

Snostorm posted:

Controllers with paddles like Scuf or Sharq are amazing for this. I use a Sharq myself.
What do you usually map to the paddles? Been thinking about Scuf, away from KB+M too long to probably make xim worthwhile.

In other news, 27 post-RoI FWC weapons packages. zero waltzes. Thanks Obama.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Drag posted:

What do you usually map to the paddles?
Sprint and Jump.

xzzy posted:

Unfortunately the problem is that trials sucks
Yeah but

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
Why would I want to go to virtual Arizona

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

moist turtleneck posted:

Why would I want to go to virtual Arizona

protect virtual borders and shoot virtual mexicans

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

moist turtleneck posted:

Why would I want to go to virtual Arizona

Virtual Grand Canyon?? Idk

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Tei posted:

The problem is... Bungie consider the real game the last DLC. And the playerbase follows that. And it somehow works. I have no idea what kind of experince you could get from old DLC. I cant be the same thing being there at release of these DLC. In a way every DLC kill the content before it, so the current Destiny is not really a accumulation, more like a aggregate where some things are still relevant, but most stuff is arcillary. Like, the mythoclast is still in the game? Sort of yes. Is the Icebreaker still in the game? Perhaps yes. But they are in the vault and you dont use them.

I miss my mythoclast so much

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

And icebreaker, I got that poo poo week one from the only purple engram I had seen

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Is it a bug that I'm getting way more exotics from blues than purples???

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Icebreaker was a bad gun because it made players feel that a valid way to play the game was to hide in corners to exploit AI and take pot shots as the thing recharged.

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


xzzy posted:

Icebreaker was a bad gun because it made players feel that a valid way to play the game was to hide in corners to exploit AI and take pot shots as the thing recharged.

If you never plinked away at Xyor for your Y1 Thorn, then you didn't experience Destiny to it's fullest.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

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Icebreaker would have been a really cool gun if it did what its grimoire suggested; kill the user.

Like if you ever reduce it to zero rounds there's a 50% chance you just explode.

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.
We all died a little inside being forced to use icebreaker in y1

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

SmallpoxJenkins posted:

If you never plinked away at Xyor for your Y1 Thorn, then you didn't experience Destiny to it's fullest.

You mean bitching at your fireteam for getting their asses in your face so you can't snipe through the two pixel hole that led into Phogoth's area but left you safe from the shrieker. There wasn't a whole lot of plinking.

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

We all died a little inside being forced to use icebreaker in y1

I had le petite mort inside your mom

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

We all died a little inside being forced to use icebreaker in y1

I stopped using it once I realized Vision of Confluence was way better for cheesing oracles.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
When they bring the vault back and make it so you can't cheese oracles this time I'm gunna laugh and laugh.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Doc Dee posted:

Sorry to quote from way back, but....

The perk that reduces incoming Void Burn damage doesn't help with reducing Void damage?

Also, did not realize Kovik's beam was considered to be a Primary.

void burn gives enemies x3 damage, but the armour perk only reduces it to x2

small arms (and specialist and w/e) do not effect ai enemies I'm 99% sure

Kovik just does a poo poo ton of damage even without burn.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
Is the counterbalance/hammer forged/rifled barrel/19 PDX a strong roll? It seems super but I guess hammer forged could be better?

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


xzzy posted:

You mean bitching at your fireteam for getting their asses in your face so you can't snipe through the two pixel hole that led into Phogoth's area but left you safe from the shrieker. There wasn't a whole lot of plinking.

I did it solo, as it was 3am when I got to that step and if I didn't finish it then, I wasn't ever.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Didn't you have to go into the room to find and kill the wizard? Remind me how we didn't get pasted at that point?

Brine
Aug 3, 2007

haveblue posted:

Didn't you have to go into the room to find and kill the wizard? Remind me how we didn't get pasted at that point?

Hide behind the rock.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

FishBulb posted:

Is the counterbalance/hammer forged/rifled barrel/19 PDX a strong roll? It seems super but I guess hammer forged could be better?

I would say its a fairly strong roll but the insane range that roll has might be a bit overkill. I would pick it up if you don't have any other competitive pulse rifles in that archetype.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

FishBulb posted:

When they bring the vault back and make it so you can't cheese oracles this time I'm gunna laugh and laugh.

Gonna have to slam dunk time lost bombs into the oracles.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
I love how impressively bad the matchmaking can screw things up sometimes. Got dropped into a mayhem game with two fire teams of three and two other randoms. Of course, it's the three solo droppers vs the pair of three man teams.

Obsurveyor
Jan 10, 2003

haveblue posted:

Didn't you have to go into the room to find and kill the wizard? Remind me how we didn't get pasted at that point?

Wizard would come to the door too. Butts in faces wasn't a problem because you never hid full time from the shrieker, just run around the corner when it appeared until it disappeared.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Maker Of Shoes posted:

I would say its a fairly strong roll but the insane range that roll has might be a bit overkill. I would pick it up if you don't have any other competitive pulse rifles in that archetype.

Can you have too much range? I thought range was a general good

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

FishBulb posted:

Can you have too much range? I thought range was a general good

It's good but eventually you reach diminishing returns and even more range won't help you as much as an alternate perk might. There aren't many places in the current crucible maps to have encounters where maxing out the range bar would be tangibly better than being slightly below the cap.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

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DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

haveblue posted:

It's good but eventually you reach diminishing returns and even more range won't help you as much as an alternate perk might. There aren't many places in the current crucible maps to have encounters where maxing out the range bar would be tangibly better than being slightly below the cap.

this.

my current go to pdx is CB/PB/Smallbore and it absolutely shreds but good gun haver Wrecks Box One is waiting for a CB/Rifled version

Snostorm
Sep 9, 2013

Drag posted:

What do you usually map to the paddles? Been thinking about Scuf, away from KB+M too long to probably make xim worthwhile.

In other news, 27 post-RoI FWC weapons packages. zero waltzes. Thanks Obama.

I map jump on the left paddle and reload on the right paddle. This let's me jump and aim really easily, and during Trials you can also revive and aim/look around as needed. It took some time to get used to (I still don't like using the paddles to jump during platform puzzles), but it was worth the muscle memory learning curve and definitely a gamechanger for me.

I don't remember if Scuf has remappable paddles, but Sharq does and that was well-worth whatever extra cost it was. I also use the removable trigger stops.

Snostorm fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Oct 19, 2016

Snostorm
Sep 9, 2013
What are people using in their Heavy slots when running with Outbreak Prime? I haven't really been impressed with the raid rocket and don't have the raid MG (heard it's SGA on crack). Quillim's Terminus feels underwhelming with its solar damage. Have people tried using a legendary void sword for captains?

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Snostorm posted:

What are people using in their Heavy slots when running with Outbreak Prime? I haven't really been impressed with the raid rocket and don't have the raid MG (heard it's SGA on crack). Quillim's Terminus feels underwhelming with its solar damage. Have people tried using a legendary void sword for captains?

Brine
Aug 3, 2007

Snostorm posted:

What are people using in their Heavy slots when running with Outbreak Prime? I haven't really been impressed with the raid rocket and don't have the raid MG (heard it's SGA on crack). Quillim's Terminus feels underwhelming with its solar damage. Have people tried using a legendary void sword for captains?

I use the raid rocket and get off a couple shots after I stick the captain with a grenade. I picked up a void raid sidearm last night and am halfway considering using it to dump on captains when they get close.

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The Meat Dimension
Mar 29, 2010

Gravy Boat 2k
E: ^^ void sidearm, lucky, wanna try it out ^^

Snostorm posted:

What are people using in their Heavy slots when running with Outbreak Prime? I haven't really been impressed with the raid rocket and don't have the raid MG (heard it's SGA on crack). Quillim's Terminus feels underwhelming with its solar damage. Have people tried using a legendary void sword for captains?

Your favorite heavy. I deal with captains by emptying a full auto shotgun and switch to MG for cleanup and monitor. Shotgun impact isn't a big deal, just full auto for double DPS

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