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Smoremaster posted:2K are saying in twitch chat that the game is still in development. Why are they releasing it if it's still in development? Are they trying to sneak out an early access turd and pass it off as finished? I wonder if maybe I shouldn't have preordered. They've been very upfront that Civ 6 is going to be a long-form product. DLC and patches etc for what is probably several years. Of course it's still in development.
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did they say what difficulty the ai were set to? that'd kinda put a better context re: stuff like technology pacing or general ai strategy
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:A little weird that it's modern era and there's nary a gun in sight Brazil gonna win with clubs and loincloths
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Brother Entropy posted:did they say what difficulty the ai were set to? that'd kinda put a better context re: stuff like technology pacing or general ai strategy King
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Gort posted:From what I'm hearing (stream doesn't work for me for some reason) the AI's pretty bad, guys. We knew that from the single player streamers. Brother Entropy posted:did they say what difficulty the ai were set to? that'd kinda put a better context re: stuff like technology pacing or general ai strategy King
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Oct 19, 2016 22:03
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I can't even watch the stream, it just loads endlessly while the chat is scrolling impossibly fast (because that is obviously the most important thing to load first). Oh well.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:11
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Eurekas need to be more difficult to acquire.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:11
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KyloWinter posted:Eurekas need to be more difficult to acquire. why?
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Oct 19, 2016 22:13
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Saw a little religious combat. Apostle summoned some lightning on a poor missionary and the nearby cities popped up "-100 Islam"
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Oct 19, 2016 22:14
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Wow, Spain has super inquisitors and still managed to be converted. I wasn't really following the stream closely, was it because they were converted before they had the ability to even build inquisitors?
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Because the rate of technology gain is too quick, presumably. 50% off of a technology is naturally going to be a part of that. That's not really a mysterious statement.
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Rome has entered the Industrial Era.
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KyloWinter posted:Eurekas need to be more difficult to acquire. I think instead science costs should just be increased? Seems weird they wouldn't do that though. Other things that could be improved: upgrading units, slightly more aggression. I'm not too broken up that they're not conquering cities left and right, that would get a little annoying if everybody did that. But you know, maybe a bit more hostility.
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In the single player VODs I've watched the general strategy is to get every eureka. It seems like 90% of them are easy to get. They decrease technology cost by 50% meaning the pace of technology in the game has been doubled. As demonstrated by the king-level AI in this live stream, they need to be much harder to acquire.
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KyloWinter posted:In the single player VODs I've watched the general strategy is to get every eureka. It seems like 90% of them are easy to get. They decrease technology cost by 50% meaning the pace of technology in the game has been doubled. As demonstrated by the king-level AI in this live stream, they need to be much harder to acquire. ah okay, that makes sense i think i'd like to see eurekas decreased to 25% before making them harder to pull off but that's just going off of gut feeling
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Oct 19, 2016 22:18
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Nothing ready for the release, but if they can polish up the Battle Royal tools, they're interested in putting that out for players.
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Rexides posted:Wow, Spain has super inquisitors and still managed to be converted. I wasn't really following the stream closely, was it because they were converted before they had the ability to even build inquisitors? It's more that Spain got turbo-hosed by getting a restrained start in the Tundra I feel.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:20
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They're explaining the unit upgrade difficulties a bit. The warrior unit line has a few units they require strategic units so if the AI gets screwed out of those resources they have some trouble upgrading. That makes sense, but maybe they need to put an alternate solution for those units.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:24
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Brother Entropy posted:ah okay, that makes sense I'd rather see rarer eurekas so they are actually eurekas instead of standard technological progress.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:31
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Russia's theme seems to be Kalinka.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:31
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Looks like England's going to pull a science victory, or Greece is going to grab a cultural victory. The bright side here is that the late game is relevant, rather than everything getting decided by the early game.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:37
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I understand that it's Twitch chat, but man, you'd think the AI murdered the chat's parents.
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hopeandjoy posted:I understand that it's Twitch chat, but man, you'd think the AI murdered the chat's parents. It'd help if there was something interesting going on in the game to talk about, but all the AIs seem content to just sit back and not fight each other at all. I think there was one city capture by the AI (not counting Aztecs conquering a city-state), and then the Aztecs just gave it back to Russia.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:42
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Gotta say, I'm just taking a peek at the streams/previews of this game and I love the art style and Sean F. Bean. My only concerns are that the end game is at least tuned well at launch and not a slog, but this is more of a concern with 4x games in general, although Civ should really start cribbing more from Endless Legend.
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Gyshall posted:Gotta say, I'm just taking a peek at the streams/previews of this game and I love the art style and Sean F. Bean. So far it looks actually kinda good on that aspect for two reasons. 1) the developers kinda learned to specifically make the end-game fun midway through V's life-time. 2) the current tech tree is kinda hilariously short due to how powerful Eureka moments are and how easy they are to get. I feel that Eurekas could really use a bit of a nerf honestly since the King level AIs were reaching industrial era at 1400 (and they did specifically say the AIs were programmed so that they actually do know how to aim for Eurekas). Having them at 25% or 33% seems a bit more reasonable honestly than "literally half off"
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Oct 19, 2016 22:53
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Aztec doing a classic move of being the most powerful civ but splitting its focus too much to lead in any one victory path.
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Or maybe have multiple eureka objectives for each eureka and you have to complete all of them, or it is a secret which one is the correct eureka. There's a lot of interesting solutions to the ease of eurekas.
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Oct 19, 2016 22:58
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Another war was decarled!
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Oct 19, 2016 23:01
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Idly, are there any good extensions out there that let you watch Twitch streams without loading in the chat?
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Russian employs only the most advanced in catapult technology to defend their cities after declaring war in 1943
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:On thursday at 12pm I'm going to play Beyond Earth and cry for 6 hours i'm gonna go to bed early tonight and wake up at 4am and play until i have to go to work 
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Bogart posted:Idly, are there any good extensions out there that let you watch Twitch streams without loading in the chat?
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Oct 19, 2016 23:12
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Did the barbarians just take Rome in 1951?
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Another war was decarled! Aztecs still can't seem to take a city despite having mech infantry and tanks massed outside Russia's forward-settle, which was defended by a catapult. They're pillaging like every single fishing boat though. Edit: Nevermind they finally captured it. That's... something, I suppose! Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Bogart posted:Idly, are there any good extensions out there that let you watch Twitch streams without loading in the chat? I have better twitch tv and my chat is set to be hidden away.
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Oct 19, 2016 23:19
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What's the consensus on the AI quality? Awful? Decent? In between?
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Alkydere posted:I feel that Eurekas could really use a bit of a nerf honestly since the King level AIs were reaching industrial era at 1400 (and they did specifically say the AIs were programmed so that they actually do know how to aim for Eurekas). Having them at 25% or 33% seems a bit more reasonable honestly than "literally half off" Quill18 got a full science victory by the late 1800s. Ye olde Victorian Mars base
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Eschatos posted:What's the consensus on the AI quality? Awful? Decent? In between? About the same as Civ V, not very good at war.
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This thread has pulled a real 180 from the "never preorder a game" sentiment.
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^The devs have been pretty transparent about what you are getting in civ 6 with all the prerelease editions given out to youtubers etc.Eschatos posted:What's the consensus on the AI quality? Awful? Decent? In between? Looks like Civ 5 Ai. So... bad?
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