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porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

Jan posted:

How much difference do coffee beans actually make when it comes to grind size, shot regularity, etc.?
Lots - also, ambient humidity can be a big factor. Reduce your grind size if you're choking your Breville. The output should look like two mice tails.

So, a question for the thread; what are some of the better mail order/subscription coffee roasters. I know there are a couple of goon run roasters. I want to recommend something to the guy that got the Breville/Macap combo that is not me roasting his coffee for him.

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Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

bizwank posted:

What kind of grinder do you have? The beans make almost all the difference; different roast levels require different grind settings to achieve similar extraction rates. Generally the darker/more oily the roast, the coarser the grind, but you basically need to dial your grinder in every time you change beans. Stick with roughly the same roast level (or the same bean!) and you won't need to mess with it as much.

Okay -- I have been writing down settings for each roaster, without actually distinguishing between roasts/beans, so that information's not super accurate I guess. I'll refine my notes because I do enjoy changing beans, roasts and roasters every time. :v:

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

porktree posted:

So, a question for the thread; what are some of the better mail order/subscription coffee roasters. I know there are a couple of goon run roasters. I want to recommend something to the guy that got the Breville/Macap combo that is not me roasting his coffee for him.
Been using Mistobox at the shop for over a year and have no complaints, you can dial in your taste preferences and delivery schedule pretty minutely.

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

bizwank posted:

Been using Mistobox at the shop for over a year and have no complaints, you can dial in your taste preferences and delivery schedule pretty minutely.

Cool, thanks. I'm also looking at Blue Bottle and Royale Mile.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



porktree posted:

I know there are a couple of goon run roasters.

Which ones are the are the goon roasters?

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Snowy posted:

Which ones are the are the goon roasters?

Here's One

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

That's Royal Mile. I just ordered from there myself. I also didn't know about MistoBox, so I may end up doing that in a week or so when I need to find more coffee. The 12 order plan is less expensive than if I were to go an buy coffee every week because $16+transit fare. And it's not like I'm not going to drink all that coffee anyway.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Thanks, I'm going to order some goon beans.

Now I just got myself derailed looking into home roasting. Anyone know especially good sources of green beans? Local to NYC would be great but I'm fine ordering.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I've never had nor heard any complaints about Sweet Maria's. They are based in Oakland but ship all over.

Slimchandi
May 13, 2005
That finger on your temple is the barrel of my raygun
This drat thread. Over the past two weeks I have ordered a V60 plus carafe, popcorn popper and 2kg of green beans. Plus taking delivery of a Baratza refurb tomorrow. Just need to stay away from espresso machines now...

Anyway I'm unsure where to go after my first attempts at roasting. I used a Brazilian santos which I took into second crack, about 7 mins in the popper. I'm a novice to the v60 too which doesn't help. But the cups I have made suffer from a chemical-ly kind of flavour. Very hard to describe but nothing like the sweetness I was expecting. Any ideas what might cause it? It's not under extracting as i got that with my first cup and adjusted to fix. I'm prewetting the filter so it's not that. Maybe I should roast slightly lighter and see what happens?

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Slimchandi posted:

This drat thread. Over the past two weeks I have ordered a V60 plus carafe, popcorn popper and 2kg of green beans. Plus taking delivery of a Baratza refurb tomorrow. Just need to stay away from espresso machines now...

Anyway I'm unsure where to go after my first attempts at roasting. I used a Brazilian santos which I took into second crack, about 7 mins in the popper. I'm a novice to the v60 too which doesn't help. But the cups I have made suffer from a chemical-ly kind of flavour. Very hard to describe but nothing like the sweetness I was expecting. Any ideas what might cause it? It's not under extracting as i got that with my first cup and adjusted to fix. I'm prewetting the filter so it's not that. Maybe I should roast slightly lighter and see what happens?

If it's acrid tasting, it might be over roasting. If it's super bitter, you could be overextracting.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Doc Hawkins posted:

I've never had nor heard any complaints about Sweet Maria's. They are based in Oakland but ship all over.

Thanks I might try them unless I find something else local soon. I just ordered a Poppery II and I want to get using it asap.

Looks like I'm going to have to go through this thread, I didn't realize people were into roasting.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Slimchandi posted:

Just need to stay away from espresso machines now...

But they're so cool!

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

So ashamed to admit it but I got a good deal on a nespresso and I actually like it for its ease of use...

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Snowy posted:

Thanks I might try them unless I find something else local soon. I just ordered a Poppery II and I want to get using it asap.

Looks like I'm going to have to go through this thread, I didn't realize people were into roasting.

Snowy posted:

Thanks I might try them unless I find something else local soon. I just ordered a Poppery II and I want to get using it asap.

Looks like I'm going to have to go through this thread, I didn't realize people were into roasting.

Sweet Maria's is real good. You might have decent luck finding a good quality supplier in NYC but you honestly can't beat Sweet Maria's. pick a region and then pick one of the higher scoring coffee beans and unless you murder them while roasting they will probably be great.

I've sourced some beans locally in CO, but they cost the same as SM and the quality doesn't seem near as good.

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010


Speaking of online beans, anyone know any good UK-based websites? I'm looking to branch beyond 'whatever my local supermarket is stocking'.

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice

Frankston posted:

Speaking of online beans, anyone know any good UK-based websites? I'm looking to branch beyond 'whatever my local supermarket is stocking'.

There is the subscription based service called pact who roast and send you whatever their current bean is within a few days of roasting it every week/two weeks/whatever. Good coffees that I have very much enjoyed, but it ain't cheap.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Frankston posted:

Speaking of online beans, anyone know any good UK-based websites? I'm looking to branch beyond 'whatever my local supermarket is stocking'.

You'd have to check them out, but googling "uk coffee roasters" brings up quite a few links.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I've tried Nespresso several times now and there's really nothing to say about it. It doesn't taste good. It also doesn't taste bad. You might as well not be drinking anything. Actually you might as well never buy a Nespresso either. Just drink water.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Frankston posted:

Speaking of online beans, anyone know any good UK-based websites? I'm looking to branch beyond 'whatever my local supermarket is stocking'.

If you live anywhere near a main city the chances are that they'll have a roaster.

I've used the Coffee Bean Company and they were good. Pact also have a quite cheap introductory offer, like get a bag for a quid.

docviagra[bteg]
Nov 6, 2001

Frankston posted:

Speaking of online beans, anyone know any good UK-based websites? I'm looking to branch beyond 'whatever my local supermarket is stocking'.

hasbean.co.uk are really good, and at the low end of the price range for the quality you get. Massive selection. I get their weekly subscription at work and it's a nice way to see different beans and regions and so on.

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010


Thanks for the suggestions y'all. I ordered some Guatemala El Bosque Amatitlan Washed Red Bourbon from hasbean because the taste notes sound incredible (chocolate biscuit, brown sugar and a hint of green apple) but no doubt I'll make my way around all the mentioned websites trying different poo poo out. :science:

docviagra[bteg]
Nov 6, 2001

Frankston posted:

Thanks for the suggestions y'all. I ordered some Guatemala El Bosque Amatitlan Washed Red Bourbon from hasbean because the taste notes sound incredible (chocolate biscuit, brown sugar and a hint of green apple) but no doubt I'll make my way around all the mentioned websites trying different poo poo out. :science:

I just got through a bag of that! It's great.

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

Snowy posted:

Thanks I might try them unless I find something else local soon. I just ordered a Poppery II and I want to get using it asap.

Looks like I'm going to have to go through this thread, I didn't realize people were into roasting.

I also use Burman (https://www.burmancoffee.com/) - good prices, friendly people, and free tshirts.

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~
What's the goon recommended drip machine if you're not willing to break the bank? I need something that is convenient. Add ground coffee, pour water, press button.

I do have an electric kettle, a Capresso Infinity, so maybe a pour over system would be easy enough, but I don't want to have to buy filters and futz with that. Are there reusable filters you can use for pour over?

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Reinanigans posted:

What's the goon recommended drip machine if you're not willing to break the bank? I need something that is convenient. Add ground coffee, pour water, press button.

I do have an electric kettle, a Capresso Infinity, so maybe a pour over system would be easy enough, but I don't want to have to buy filters and futz with that. Are there reusable filters you can use for pour over?

Have you looked into the clever coffee dripper? You put in the filter and coffee and pour the water and wait 4 min then put it on your cup, it's pretty convenient and makes a good cup of coffee while being fairly foolproof. I use mine all the time. It's also very cheap.

Reusable are more of a hassle with having to clean than disposable I find (I'm basing this on my experience with a french press vs the clever, which are very similar in process otherwise), although I think you can get reusable filters for the clever (it uses standard filters).

milkman dad
Aug 13, 2007

Does anyone have the Baratza Sette 270W grinder that's just coming out? Looks like a good "entry" espresso grinder with science because of the weight based grinding.

Romulux
Mar 17, 2004

E V O L V E D

milkman dad posted:

Does anyone have the Baratza Sette 270W grinder that's just coming out? Looks like a good "entry" espresso grinder with science because of the weight based grinding.

As soon as I have the money for this I'm buying it.

I just pulled my first shot of espresso on a Krups Il Primo. It was garbage. I researched machines for a couple hours on youtube, checked out this thread, and now I'm ready to drop like a grand on a machine, grinder, bottomless portafilter, a tamper with a c-flat base and a handle that fits my hand, all that good poo poo.

Can I get a quick opinion on this package deal I found on craigslist? The price looks good and I'm assuming it's been well maintained considering they own all the cleaning equipment. I plan on upgrading from all of the things in this setup, but it looks like a good entry point.

I own a popcorn popper and I want to start roasting my own beans as well. Anyone have a good recommendation for green beans these days? Last time I checked Sweet Maria's was commonly recommended.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Romulux posted:

Can I get a quick opinion on this package deal I found on craigslist? The price looks good and I'm assuming it's been well maintained considering they own all the cleaning equipment. I plan on upgrading from all of the things in this setup, but it looks like a good entry point.

That's a solid deal. I've had that grinder for a couple years now and it's really nice for the money. It won't weigh shots, however the doses are timed and you can adjust up and down to get the amount right and they are very consistent.

That espresso machine is supposed to be on the better entry level ones as well.

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~
What's the consensus on the Chemex?

https://www.amazon.com/Chemex-Class...85%3A2470955011

This one has the highest reviews on Amazon. Are the filters expensive/hard to find? Are there reusable/washable filters I could buy? How easy is it to pour a cup? It looks a little unwieldy.

Sorry for the noob questions, I just don't want to go back to cheap drip machines now that I know how good coffee can be.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004
There is a version with a handle. I have the handle one and pouring is easy. Some people don't like the Chemex because the filters are super thick and can taste papery if you don't rinse them very well. If you need to brew a bunch of coffee, they are great. If you're just brewing a single cup, I'd get a V60.

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

Romulux posted:

Can I get a quick opinion on this package deal I found on craigslist? The price looks good and I'm assuming it's been well maintained considering they own all the cleaning equipment. I plan on upgrading from all of the things in this setup, but it looks like a good entry point.
That's a solid setup, pretty much everything you need to get going. I would check how many packets are left in those boxes before making assumptions about their maintenance schedule, but our water is pretty soft in the PNW so any scale buildup should be easily remedied. Note that SCG warranties are non-transferable but you shouldn't have any trouble with that machine unless you use it wrong (steam first, then brew!).

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~

rockcity posted:

There is a version with a handle. I have the handle one and pouring is easy. Some people don't like the Chemex because the filters are super thick and can taste papery if you don't rinse them very well. If you need to brew a bunch of coffee, they are great. If you're just brewing a single cup, I'd get a V60.

Awesome. I'll look for one with a handle, then. Do you order your filters on Amazon or somewhere online, or are they available in grocery stores?

Do you pre-rinse your filters or what?

How long after boiling, generally, is the hot water ready to pour?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Reinanigans posted:

How long after boiling, generally, is the hot water ready to pour?

It could be a minute or two or it could be a lot longer depending on the kind of container. Best thing is to stick a thermometer in once after it boils and watch it for a few minutes to see how long it takes to go down.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Bring it to just off a boil and wait 30 second.

docviagra[bteg]
Nov 6, 2001

Reinanigans posted:

What's the consensus on the Chemex?

I really like mine. I'm in the UK but they sell the filters at (an excellent) coffee place near my house, and also on amazon, so they're particularly easy to get hold of.

I do rinse my filters really well and find this to be not a remotely annoying or noticeable part of the process. I do it with boiling water and this gets the vessel nice and warm.

I have the one without the handle and with the wooden collar, for the simple and possibly stupid reason that I like how it looks.

Edit: I should clarify, it's my only bit of pour over kit. I can't compare it to anything else.

docviagra[bteg] fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Oct 21, 2016

Romulux
Mar 17, 2004

E V O L V E D
Do any of you own an OCD? I want one just for consistency's sake. It seems like it's unnecessary depending on how consistent you are with a hand redistribution method, which is something I have no experience with yet. I'm designing my setup around consistency via grind, weight, and distribution so I can switch out any machine or bean and have a setup that will always work. Since I plan on roasting my own beans and want to test different types of beans and roasts I feel like the less variables I have to worry about the better, and $110 isn't a big investment relative to the rest of the equipment.

http://brewglobal.com/ocd-coffee-distribution-tool.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqHiUU_WdbE

Edit: Oooor I'll just get a chinese knockoff haha https://www.alibaba.com/products/F0...4838.0.0.1cOxAE

Romulux fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Oct 21, 2016

bizwank
Oct 4, 2002

Seems unnecessary unless you simply aren't capable of developing the muscle memory needed to tamp at the same pressure and angle every time. There are cheaper tools to help you learn that, like bottomless portafilters and pressure-sensitive tampers.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

milkman dad posted:

Does anyone have the Baratza Sette 270W grinder that's just coming out? Looks like a good "entry" espresso grinder with science because of the weight based grinding.

Good luck finding one! We're on the short list to get them when they come out but haven't heard a thing about when they're actually coming out. I called our guy at Baratza last week and all he'll say is "when we're happy with them"

At first I was pretty excited, but I'm not sure it's going to be the sea change everyone is expecting. It'll still be an excellent grinder, and probably be the lowest price for a dialed-in weight system though.

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Romulux
Mar 17, 2004

E V O L V E D

bizwank posted:

Seems unnecessary unless you simply aren't capable of developing the muscle memory needed to tamp at the same pressure and angle every time. There are cheaper tools to help you learn that, like bottomless portafilters and pressure-sensitive tampers.

Na, that tool's not about tamping, it's about distributing the grounds evenly before tamping, and doing it the same way every time. It looks like the Stockfleth's Move is the most common hand-distribution method, but since I plan on distributing the grounds by weight I don't see the benefit of using my hand to redistribute/remove excess coffee because it's just an inconsistent variable to worry about when I'm trying to focus on getting my beans right. I'm also considering getting a tamper similar to the Malhgut Buzzer that utilizes the top edge of the basket to ensure an even and consistent tamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ptLWhhda4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2iyk1AnI5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv-QUr8Ini4

I agree that you can do all of this by hand and by feel, but these tools definitely make the actions more consistent, which is a huge part of working toward a "perfect" espresso pull.

A bottomless portafilter is likely going to be the first kind I use in any real regard to this hobby. I couldn't find any "pressure sensitive" tampers other than this one that's $99.

Edit: Check out this performance by Erna Tosberg where she uses the Malhgut Dozer and Buzzer. That's where I first saw them and it piqued my interest.

Romulux fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 21, 2016

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