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I'm very curious what the Wacom's display is like. The computing part is easy, the hard part is the trails and depth of the display, which apple has figured out and Wacom is poo poo at. I have a feeling I will make one line on the Wacom and put it down until I can try the next year's model. I'm in the market for a mobile something for modelling and sculpting in a pinch, and it would be great if this Wacom worked out and had a good screen. If macbook pro added a pen display that would be killer too.
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windex posted:The best deal is that if you aren't doing 3d, the cheaper Surface Pro 4 is probably good enough so long as it's not your primary device. drat. I was planning on using it for zbrush on the go and the occasional maya session. The Surface Book Pro meets all my needs (more or less) but the price has actually gone up, not down. Don't trust the portable Wacom products because they are generally behind the curve on most tech except stylus tech / pressure sensitivity. Although I do like the hardware buttons in the Wacom products. Still prefer the Surface Book over the Cintiq Companion at roughly the same price.
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Here's the new iPad competitor from Wacom HOLD THE FUCKIN PHOOOONE
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Did Microsoft update the Surface Pen for the Surface 3 / Pro 3 & 4? I just bought a replacement because my old one keeps dying, and this new one has one long button on the side instead of two small ones, it comes with a variety of nibs and they're now textured and actually grip the screen in a pleasing manner. I thought I was just buying a straight-up replacement, but the nib alone is making this a worthwhile purchase in its own right. edit: Also if you're in the UK and want a tablet for drawing, there is a stormingly good deal on the Surface Pro 3 on Groupon right now: https://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/microsoft-surface-pro-3-12 Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Ha, so after getting my Surface delayed by a storm, it arrives and the drat thing is stuck in an infinite boot loop. None of the methods I've found have helped. I can get a replacement but the turn around could be a month long. Edit: I forgot that we have a Microsoft store in town. They replaced it, no problem. Inzombiac fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Oct 18, 2016 |
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Hey, maybe this is a Manga Studio problem rather than a Wacom problem, but whenever I minimize my Manga Studio window, there's a 50% chance that sensitivity will have turned off by the time I go back to it. I don't mean a total gently caress-up in which you have to restart the Wacom driver process from Task Manager, it'll (usually) be fixed just by minimizing the window again, but it's really messing up my workflow. Does anybody else have this problem? Has anyone found a work-around to it? e: While we're at it, has anybody had any experiences with the (cheaper) alternatives to the Cintiq? I'm kinda pondering getting one in the future when money allows, but I remember reading some pretty good reviews of the, like, Chinese? Russian? alternatives that were basically "yeah this one does the exact same poo poo for one third the price". SexyBlindfold fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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Oct 20, 2016 19:19
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Here's the new iPad competitor from Wacom Interesting, though.. I'm pretty uninterested in dropping $1.5k-3k on something that will be obsolete in five years, unless this becomes the thing that fully replaces my laptop (which it won't, nor would the Companion for me). I'm less gun shy on the smaller iPad pro because it's a fraction of the cost and I'm already primed for Apple's forced obsolescence life cycle. also, Wacom: not known for their quality of customer support or quality assurance. I still don't trust them with screens of any sort, as I've yet to work on a Cintiq without at least a dead pixel or two.
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SexyBlindfold posted:Hey, maybe this is a Manga Studio problem rather than a Wacom problem, but whenever I minimize my Manga Studio window, there's a 50% chance that sensitivity will have turned off by the time I go back to it. I don't mean a total gently caress-up in which you have to restart the Wacom driver process from Task Manager, it'll (usually) be fixed just by minimizing the window again, but it's really messing up my workflow. Does anybody else have this problem? Has anyone found a work-around to it? Most of the bugs in Clip Studio Paint seem to be related to their half assed Tablet PC generic input driver, which is also the one that works better with more recent Wacom drivers. If it makes you feel better, it occasionally (after 3 or 4 hours of being open) hoses my 27 QHD Cintiq by making it decide I am holding my finger in a long press along the far left edge of the screen constantly until I reboot (Wacom driver restart only fixes it until you launch Clip Studio again). It does this even with touch turned off, if you turn on touch it starts recognizing a long press again. Makes all touch input impossible. This only happens with CSP running on a machine with at least one additional display to the Cintiq (I have two), and I have no idea how, nor does their support team, but apparently Wacom is looking into it since Celesys claimed to reproduced the issue and reported it to them. I now shut off my other displays if I'm going to have clip studio open for awhile. This works.
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Does this cause an infinite and constant scroll down action, or is that a different problem I'm having every few weeks? Note, only my laptop does this, but I think it started when I got the Intuos3.
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The new Surface Studio: http://surfac.ms/1026YSO I crave it mightily, but at $3000, it's too rich for my blood.
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It's a pretty solid broadside attack against both Wacom and Apple, but it's definitely aimed at studios rather than individuals. A shame, because if there was a cheaper version I'd be very tempted when I come round to replacing my current PC.
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Dr. Memory posted:The new Surface Studio: http://surfac.ms/1026YSO I want to see it first hand but it looks great and honestly I can't see Apple producing anything I want to replace my 2013 MBP with given what's leaked. At $3000 this is a definite possibility for my next workstation. My iPad can do 99% of what I need on the go.
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Dr. Memory posted:The new Surface Studio: http://surfac.ms/1026YSO I don't need it and I can't afford it. If I got it, it would go without using its full potential. But I WANT it.
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https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-...016-10-27_14-16 wait what
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I'm not sure what's confusing about it.
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1. I've not been keeping up with what their product line is. 2. ALDI usually sells groceries.
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I thought Aldi/Lidl were kind of famous for their constant flow of temporary offers of a wide range of non-food items. I've bought laptops, tablets, battery powered drills, floor mats, kitchen stuff, bluetooth speakers and what have you there. They even had the same Wacom Bamboo tablet I still use for a lower price a couple of weeks after I bought one a bunch of years ago. Maybe this hasn't been the case everywhere? Anyway, that assumption made me look for something else that was wrong, maybe, and I couldn't see it.
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I decided to explore my artistic side a bit and got myself an Inuos art (the 8x6). It's my first tablet like this and I've had a lot of fun with it, but after a while I noticed there was a frustrating issue and I'm not sure if it's because the tablet has a real problem or my expectations are too high with not getting a higher end one. These were all done with a straightedge:  In some places it's just hopelessly wavy. These strokes are over several inches over the surface (the picture is roughly the tablet size). I can move the straightedge and the waves are in the same place on the tablet. I've tried the stylus at different angles on the surface and changed nibs. Going online everyone says that the hardware on these is usually top notch and it's often drivers, but I've got everything up to date. These are supposed to do better than this, yeah? Or should I just shell out for an intuos pro?
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What operating system/software are you using? If it's Windows, Lazy Nezumi Pro is pretty great at smoothing out lines in Photoshop and works in a lot of other paint programs- you'll just want to check their compatibility list. I use it at work with a Cintiq and dig it a whole lot.
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Thanks for the reply. I've been mainly using krita 3.0 in Linux (I will always be a sucker for oss), but I have Corel painter essentials. The stabilizer does a good job removing it, but it feels like cheating. Someone a few pages back said they had some issues with amazon which is where I got this, so I just went and decided to try a replacement since it doesn't put me out anything. I may just upgrade since I've had so much fun with this.
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Hmm, if you can try the tablet on another computer/OS you may be able to better diagnose if it's a hardware issue or software/driver/OS thing. see if wiggly lines persist through softwares and OSes officially supported by Wacom sotlftware). As a Linux user, is there a third party driver you're using? I don't think that's normal tablet behavior, but if you're still in that warranty service window, you may be able to get an answer from Wacom's customer service and maybe even a replacement if it's a hardware thing. If you've recently bought the tablet, you may even be able to return it. The pro is nice for sure; worth upgrading if money's not an issue, but really evaluate how much you'll want to be drawing so you don't end up with an expensive paperweight. You'll also want to make sure your OS isn't the culprit before making the plunge. Frown Town fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Yeah, I've tried it in Windows with all the official stuff to make sure (the linux drivers are in the kernel and from what I gather while not officially supported are actually done by wacom devs). I'll see how the replacement goes and if I still have the same problems I'll think about the pro. Thanks for you feedback!
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dont suppose anyone knows where I can try out a surface studio in London? I don't think there's even a Microsoft store here.
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Surface 4 report: It's been a couple weeks now and I am very happy with my purchase. -Typing is pretty comfortable overall. I have somewhat broad shoulders that cause my arms to angle in more than I'd like but I have tiny baby hands that rest comfortably on the type cover. -Drawing, even though I'm terrible at it, has been quick, responsive and easy to manage. I downloaded Sketchable Premium and it works without any noticeable lag even at higher dpi.
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Inzombiac posted:Surface 4 report: I want to note for thread that while I have been really hard on the Surface in this thread, I got a Surface Pen Tip Kit the other day, and threw on the 2H nib, and it's a lot better than the default HB nib. I actually drew some sketches on the Surface and didn't hate them or the process of getting to them. So if you also hate the feel of the pen, get the Pen Tip Kit and fix it.
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Interesting. I have yet to encounter an issue but my level of drawing skill is, "child who is left alone too much."
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What's a normal amount of latency between the cursor movement and a brushstroke appearing? Whether using a mouse or a drawing tablet, Photoshop or Sketchbook, when making large strokes I can see the stroke slightly behind the cursor position. It's subtle (probably less than 100ms of latency), but feels like something that would make smooth linework much more difficult to do. My understanding is that when drawing I should be making quick, large gestures. I'm also having a really infuriating issue with Photoshop and my drawing tablet (but I don't use other setups enough to narrow down the culprit). About every few minutes, while in the middle of making a brush stroke, I'll see my cursor change to the loading/spinning cursor. I can continue making the brushstroke, but when I finish with it, another straight line will be added from where the stroke began and where it ended. Has anyone ever seen this happen before? It's driving me nuts. Windows flicks are disabled.
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Optimize your photoshop brushes. Lowering the stroke count and the amount of extra brush settings, especially stuff like dual brushes, etc. Complex brushes are slower and can require cacheing which might be causing your second problem.
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cram like 16 more gigs of ram in your pc This is actually something I want to do cause i do stuff in manga studio at really high dpi with fun watercolor brushes but I need new car tires first
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Synthbuttrange posted:Optimize your photoshop brushes. Lowering the stroke count and the amount of extra brush settings, especially stuff like dual brushes, etc. Complex brushes are slower and can require cacheing which might be causing your second problem. I'm using the basic 3 brushes from ctrlpaint.com. How much latency is normal with any simple brush? If you were to draw a giant circle as quickly as possible would your brush stroke keep up perfectly with the cursor? One other thing that's annoying me. In Photoshop + Windows, Alt + Right-Click is supposed to bring up that red overlay which lets you choose brush diameter + hardness. With a mouse this overlay appears as soon as I press the button. With my tablet, the overlay doesn't appear until I also move the pen a bit in any direction, which is annoying when I want to just barely change the brush size. What is the behavior that other Windows + tablet users are seeing?
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dividertabs posted:I'm also having a really infuriating issue with Photoshop and my drawing tablet (but I don't use other setups enough to narrow down the culprit). About every few minutes, while in the middle of making a brush stroke, I'll see my cursor change to the loading/spinning cursor. I can continue making the brushstroke, but when I finish with it, another straight line will be added from where the stroke began and where it ended. Has anyone ever seen this happen before? It's driving me nuts. Windows flicks are disabled. So, I had this problem with the 2017 release of Photoshop CC on my 2013 Macbook Pro. However, there was also a 3 second or more delay when making new layers, making a selection, and more. I tried every setting I could find, updated all my other drivers, and in the end had to roll back to Photoshop 2015.5.
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dividertabs posted:What's a normal amount of latency between the cursor movement and a brushstroke appearing? Whether using a mouse or a drawing tablet, Photoshop or Sketchbook, when making large strokes I can see the stroke slightly behind the cursor position. It's subtle (probably less than 100ms of latency), but feels like something that would make smooth linework much more difficult to do. My understanding is that when drawing I should be making quick, large gestures. what are you running? some rigs aint got the guts
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gmc9987 posted:So, I had this problem with the 2017 release of Photoshop CC on my 2013 Macbook Pro. However, there was also a 3 second or more delay when making new layers, making a selection, and more. I tried every setting I could find, updated all my other drivers, and in the end had to roll back to Photoshop 2015.5. bitmap posted:what are you running? some rigs aint got the guts dividertabs fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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I'm glad there's a screen protector on my Intuos because the pen just straight up sliced a permanent cut into it a few times. Had and used it for almost a year now and never changed the nib or noticed any wear on it, but now and then it just cuts a deep gouge into the protector.
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Battle Pigeon posted:I'm glad there's a screen protector on my Intuos because the pen just straight up sliced a permanent cut into it a few times. Had and used it for almost a year now and never changed the nib or noticed any wear on it, but now and then it just cuts a deep gouge into the protector. I usually place a light piece of cardstock on the drawing section of the intuos, if I'm using it. Digitizer works just the same, plus tablet is protected, plus, you get a bit of tooth out of the paper.
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Battle Pigeon posted:I'm glad there's a screen protector on my Intuos because the pen just straight up sliced a permanent cut into it a few times. Had and used it for almost a year now and never changed the nib or noticed any wear on it, but now and then it just cuts a deep gouge into the protector. Apparently by default the pressure curves for the Wacom digitizer make it really hard to get 100% pressure which might mean you're pressing too hard: Ctrl-paint dude has a video on fixing this in a config file somewhere, in typical Wacom fashion: http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/100-brush-pressure-less-fatigue Also the nibs can tend to get sharper the more you use them so switching out for a new one might help too.
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Dogcow posted:Apparently by default the pressure curves for the Wacom digitizer make it really hard to get 100% pressure which might mean you're pressing too hard: Ctrl-paint dude has a video on fixing this in a config file somewhere, in typical Wacom fashion: http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/100-brush-pressure-less-fatigue Clip/Manga Studio has an awesome feature: http://www.clipstudio.net/en/promotion/trial_tour/001/ Use it every day before you start drawing. Always get consistent lines.
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HanzoSchmanzo posted:I usually place a light piece of cardstock on the drawing section of the intuos, if I'm using it. I'm one of those terrible people who prefer smooth surfaces for the tablet, so the protector was for that reason too Dogcow posted:Apparently by default the pressure curves for the Wacom digitizer make it really hard to get 100% pressure which might mean you're pressing too hard: Ctrl-paint dude has a video on fixing this in a config file somewhere, in typical Wacom fashion: http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/100-brush-pressure-less-fatigue In the standard Pen Properties/Tablet Properties, with the thing that shows you the current pressure, I do have to press really hard to get the maximum. Apparently my usual use is only around half pressure. Not sure at the moment what the pen feel options do/the benefits of changing them. If I'm apparently only pressing around half to two thirds of max pressure for painting, and tend to just increase brush size rather than press harder for pressure sensitive brushes, do you think it's probably still better to increase the sensitivity and get used to it? I'm a little wary of playing around and breaking anything, since this tablet hasn't had any issues since day one and you sometimes see a lot of complaints about constantly having to restart programs or drivers etc. windex posted:Clip/Manga Studio has an awesome feature: http://www.clipstudio.net/en/promotion/trial_tour/001/ That's pretty cool, will try it out sometimes. Non-shaky/decent lineart has always been one of the hardest things to achieve digitally for me
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Battle Pigeon posted:In the standard Pen Properties/Tablet Properties, with the thing that shows you the current pressure, I do have to press really hard to get the maximum. Apparently my usual use is only around half pressure. Not sure at the moment what the pen feel options do/the benefits of changing them. If I'm apparently only pressing around half to two thirds of max pressure for painting, and tend to just increase brush size rather than press harder for pressure sensitive brushes, do you think it's probably still better to increase the sensitivity and get used to it? I'm a little wary of playing around and breaking anything, since this tablet hasn't had any issues since day one and you sometimes see a lot of complaints about constantly having to restart programs or drivers etc. Adjusting the pressure sensitivity was the main thing that turned my tablets from a weird tool into an indispensable part of my production. If you click on the customize button, you can adjust the pressure curve manually, including changing the values for min and max pressure. Lowering the max pressure threshhold helps a lost, especially if you are already only using about half pressure or so.
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I just bought a huion gt185 (shortly before realising there's a v2 upgrade that just came out-doh!) and so far so good. Going to take a while to get used to though. I swear I remember reading on here that people with cintiqs were using protectors on their screens so they got more/less resistance (I forget which) and less of the strange glass feel when drawing. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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