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I feel really bad for the guy in Shut Up and Dance  It's pretty well-known and studied that married men will fantasize about cheating, and maybe even do prep and maybe even get a hotel room and invite a hooker over, but will lose their nerve at the last minute and call it off. And the way Jerome Flynn was acting, it seemed like he was absolutely the kind of guy who would have bottled it as soon as she knocked on the door. I'm curious about what the black guy on the motorcycle's crime was supposed to be? In the ending montage, he's arguing with people and someone calls him a "pervert", but it seems like What If 4chan But Too Much weren't letting the actual pedos go free, since the other two people who get out alive are Racist CEO and Might Have Wanted To Cheat On Wife. So I found it a bit weird that whatever he did was enough to be a "pervert" but wasn't pedophilia? I also wonder what it says about viewers that people are using Kenny giving the girl her toy - a genuinely nice gesture - as the "proof positive" that he was a pedophile. I'm wondering if his entire thing was supposed to be more vague than it came off, or if some version of the script had it be ambiguous as to whether he had even looked at kiddie porn at all (like, maybe he jerked off to a picture of a 14 or 15 year old and honestly didn't know or something). When the guy at the end asks him "How old?" maybe he was originally written to say "I don't know!" which would have been an interesting wrinkle to the whole story. Man, I think you could have a whole thread about this episode alone.
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precision posted:I feel really bad for the guy in Shut Up and Dance I don't think that was supposed to be "proof" was it? The proof was his mom's reaction in the phone call at the end. The scene at the beginning with the kid is just something that takes on a new light at the end. Well I guess there was that one guy who claimed that the twist was "obvious" from the beginning because of that scene My personal ranking is 413562. The first three of those I thought were absolutely amazing, the 5th was good, and the last two were meh and bad.
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Regy Rusty posted:I don't think that was supposed to be "proof" was it? The proof was his mom's reaction in the phone call at the end. The scene at the beginning with the kid is just something that takes on a new light at the end. That's what I thought, yes. We're meant to believe what his mother says at the end of the episode because it explains why he was willing to go to some of the lengths that he did, and also because all of the other characters are guilty of what they are accused of doing. There's no indication that the mysterious Helldumpers are making things up.
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FourLeaf posted:Men Against Fire: I really like the underlying idea but the execution was poor. I wish they had revealed the twist without two separate scenes of the clueless main character having stuff explained to him. Just felt sloppy. Also, I agree that the roaches being refugees would have been much better. I have to disagree. It would've been even more corny and nonsensical since the "gene-based genocide after the whole world was processed" is a decent enough explaination for how they could tell who was a roach. Plus, it's supposed to be a criticism of eugenics, which has been steadily creepying back into the mainstream.
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Oct 24, 2016 07:23
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MizPiz posted:I have to disagree. It would've been even more corny and nonsensical since the "gene-based genocide after the whole world was processed" is a decent enough explaination for how they could tell who was a roach. Plus, it's supposed to be a criticism of eugenics, which has been steadily creepying back into the mainstream. There was almost nothing in the episode really building the eugenics feel outside of some forced expository dialogue. It felt tacked on, like we need a reason for these people to be hated so they choose a simple non-relevant historical one. Refugees makes more sense because it is a real thing now and will be only worse later. No one at all takes eugenics seriously and if you are going on that angle you need to put some more effort building your world on why it would become such a thing. Posters around saying 'has your child been checked for X disease' maybe video footage showing roach camps with tons of sick people, etc.
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Someone mentioned earlier that the robot bees in Hated in the Nation are meant to represent the internet hivemind. I did consider this, as well as how people can "swarm" a hated person on social media, but as was also mentioned it was just too heavy-handed. Plus I think I just find "robot bees that kill people" too inherently stupid. I really want someone to explain to me why they enjoyed watching Kelly Macdonald's character. She had no personality at all and was so rubbish
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She's the same character as all those grim swedish/nordic shows like Wallander and Borgen and The Bridge. British people love those shows for some reason.
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The most egregious flaw of Men against Fire for me was the notion that english as a second language among danes would somehow be so completely eradicated in the future, that they couldn't find a single person in the camp to speak with without having to use a mechanical translator.
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Bicyclops posted:That's what I thought, yes. We're meant to believe what his mother says at the end of the episode because it explains why he was willing to go to some of the lengths that he did, and also because all of the other characters are guilty of what they are accused of doing. There's no indication that the mysterious Helldumpers are making things up. For me, so far, this is probably the best episode I've seen of the show. There's so many talking points that come out of it. Although it is White Bear inflected, it feels - as someone eruditely put earlier - like "White Bear perfected". Unlike White Bear, and most of Black Mirror, this episode felt like something that could easily be happening right now. I spent most of the episode thinking "what's the big deal, teen jacks off to porn hold the front page", which is a brilliant conceit. I wonder whether or not the episode resonated differently with women vs men, because I imagine most men would be completely sympathetic to the boy's predicament (pre reveal) whilst also thinking he was making a mountain out of a molehill. I don't think it's by accident that almost all of the victims were male either. As for the reveal - wow. It is quite brutal really because the show effectively tricks you into sympathising with the boy because of the perceived harmlessness and ubiquity of his act. His character is played to perfection and there isn't a moment where you don't think he's getting an extremely rough and disproportionate ride. Then the reveal hits and you're like "poo poo, all that empathy I had was for a pedophile?". As above I don't think the scene with the girl was remotely sinister or foreboding in how it was played out, it only takes on a much darker tone in retrospect - which the show demands you do. The only bit where the conceit falls down I guess is that them releasing the video is a a bit of a hollow threat. For starters the video they would have of the guy is him jerking off facing the lens. You wouldn't see on the video what he was watching. You could right now splice a video of someone jacking off on camera to anything you wanted and claim that's what they were watching, but there would be no proof of that, therefore it would be ineffectual as a threat. Likewise he could just completely wipe or destroy his laptop and any evidence they claim they have, even if downloaded from it, would no longer correspond to what was actually on there. The threat only works really if his laptop has already been seized by them and is being held to ransom.
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I haven't seen all six yet, I'm only up to the first four, but if the reactions on this board and others are anything to go by, you're missing the pun in Black Mirror. Your reactions are part of the art. For instance, it's interesting that people are making connections between Playtest protagonist and Shut Up And Dance protagonist in an effort to make the Playtest protagonist less likeable. I'm thinking he was initially written to be more likeable and toned down to get a more ambiguous reaction, and that seems to have paid off. Durzel is correct, the series is playing you. For anyone who has been a carer and been through that kind of bereavement, he's completely believable and a lot more likeable than you think, and compassionately taking a fearful kid's mind off turbulence is a better marker of character than getting a book character wrong. Still, I think the pacing was off, and in the end his likeability wasn't really connected to the plot anyway For me, Nosedive is an extended technological riff on the British comedy of manners farce. It starts funny, gets so very not funny and goes on until it's funny again. You have the ultimate Wildean result that the only people capable of being themselves are outcasts. San Junipero did a rare thing of swinging you from one character's perspective to another in a completely believable way despite a sci-fi setting. Once again, playing everyone for that ending, well done.. So far, so good and it pays to rewatch and reevaluate your reaction.
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In Hated in the Nation, the bees kill everyone who used the hashtag right? Including the people who used it to say it was sick and wrong?
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Oct 24, 2016 11:59
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WE B Boo-ourgeois posted:In Hated in the Nation, the bees kill everyone who used the hashtag right? Including the people who used it to say it was sick and wrong? It's not explicit about that but I assume so. I doubt the guy spent time curating it to spare people who didn't really mean it.
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Now I wonder if those that are rejecting often clear allegory for <insert weak technical reason here> they are ultimately just reacting to the moral of the story first and constructing the reason later. The entire show is well made and so clearly not about future technology, but about us today right now and that should make us pretty uncomfortable. Then again it is always interesting to see that something can both be heavy-handed and still simultaneously have plenty of the audience miss the point.
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WE B Boo-ourgeois posted:In Hated in the Nation, the bees kill everyone who used the hashtag right? Including the people who used it to say it was sick and wrong? It'd make sense it only got people who included the photo. I don't get why the chancellor didn't just fly out to France for the day. Or wear a crash helmet so they can't see his face
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I don't get the people who are complaining about plots/metaphors being too heavy handed. There's never been anything subtle about this show. I also think White Bear and San Junipero are the two worst episodes 
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unlawfulsoup posted:There was almost nothing in the episode really building the eugenics feel outside of some forced expository dialogue. It felt tacked on, like we need a reason for these people to be hated so they choose a simple non-relevant historical one. Refugees makes more sense because it is a real thing now and will be only worse later. No one at all takes eugenics seriously and if you are going on that angle you need to put some more effort building your world on why it would become such a thing. Posters around saying 'has your child been checked for X disease' maybe video footage showing roach camps with tons of sick people, etc. I don't disagree with you criticism of how the roaches were handled, but it would need to be a completely different story for it to be about refugees. I felt everything about the roaches were a device to explore how warfare technology can be used to dehumanize soldiers and noncombatants.
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Hated in the Nation works as a brilliantly timed 'surveillance connected to the internet is a threat' message when Mirai is shutting down the internet using poo poo Chinese cctv cameras. Shut up and dance was loving horrible and bleak in the best way
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Durzel posted:The only bit where the conceit falls down I guess is that them releasing the video is a a bit of a hollow threat. For starters the video they would have of the guy is him jerking off facing the lens. You wouldn't see on the video what he was watching. You could right now splice a video of someone jacking off on camera to anything you wanted and claim that's what they were watching, but there would be no proof of that, therefore it would be ineffectual as a threat. Likewise he could just completely wipe or destroy his laptop and any evidence they claim they have, even if downloaded from it, would no longer correspond to what was actually on there. The threat only works really if his laptop has already been seized by them and is being held to ransom. I don't pretend to know how computers work but when Kenny is in the car with Bronn and Bronn is explaining what they have on him, he says they sucked up his entire hard drive like an audit. Kenny begins to breakdown when he hears this so I think we're supposed to assume that he had downloaded cp, which is also why he's so angry when his sister takes his laptop. I think if a bunch of cp got leaked alongside a video of him wanking and presumably other personal stuff on his computer like photos, homework, or whatever, then that's enough to convince anyone. Besides that, it is usually accurate that, even without any firm evidence, just the accusation of being a pedophile is enough to ruin someone's life forever. Even if he wasn't guilty, being a weird unpopular kid with that hanging over him means he's doomed.
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All he needs to do is show the authorities the texts from the blackmailer and he can possibly get reduced time because of the coercion, and claim the pictures were put there by the hackers, which sounds plausible. His life is still ruined though, and even talking about how a fictional pedo might get out of trouble makes me feel gross.Escobarbarian posted:Someone mentioned earlier that the robot bees in Hated in the Nation are meant to represent the internet hivemind. I did consider this, as well as how people can "swarm" a hated person on social media, but as was also mentioned it was just too heavy-handed. Plus I think I just find "robot bees that kill people" too inherently stupid. He wouldn't be a super villain if he didn't use heavy-handed "ironic" punishments to kill people, would he? Killer robot bees already sounds straight out of the comics.
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BJPaskoff posted:Killer robot bees already sounds straight out of the comics. further info he was an undercover operative for the wu tang clan
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Oct 24, 2016 17:07
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Maybe I'm dumb and wrong, but I actually liked the ending to Playtest. Cooper getting killed by a combination of his own greed and the grief he was running from was fairly poetic and Twilight Zoney. Plus I thought it was a nice touch that the interference fried him such that he could only scream out the same thing that was displayed on his phone.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:17
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Desiderata posted:The entire show is well made and so clearly not about future technology, but about us today right now and that should make us pretty uncomfortable. Agreed. How are killer bees so farfetched when we've got armed UAVs killing people now? MizPiz posted:I felt everything about the roaches were a device to explore how warfare technology can be used to dehumanize soldiers and noncombatants. The scarier part which requires no technology is being trained to mindlessly follow orders and kill people. I thought the way they showed the roaches cowering in fear before being killed was brilliant. Maybe it'll make an impression on some people as nothing else seems to be working.
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Fundamentally, I hated Cooper and didn't want to watch an hour-long story primarily carried by him. Black Mirror usually excels at portraying characters shoved into incomprehensible situations (see: Shut Up and Dance, The National Anthem, etc.), assumedly portraying grief over the loss of a close relative would be easy. However, Cooper fell extremely flat for me, and the way the majority of Playtest was structured around his character made it grating to watch. The specificity of his death (killed by both his greed and his guilt over abandoning his mother) made it feel more moralistic than usual for me. In Fifteen Million Merits, The Entire History of You, or White Christmas, we see stories where the technology is part of the protagonists' worlds. However, Cooper's death is a direct result of both the choices that establish his character and those that involve him in this techno-clusterfuck world. Everybody Bing Manson ever knew was likely a cyclist. Liam lives in a world where the Grain technology is commonplace, so his actions are, in retrospect, unsurprising; is this just what jealousy looks like now? (It is, we all have Facebook accounts.) And, while I think it undermines the story as a whole, the three intermeshed technologies (blocking, Cookies, the eye-seeing) used in White Christmas firmly cement Matt Trent's world as unlike our own. In Playtest, though, we're introduced to a normal world. Cooper lives in a painfully unassuming house (Syracuse, NY?) and reacts against that by undertaking a typical "gap year" vacation, something still more common in the UK than US. It's not until he visits Kojima's estate that we're introduced to anything out of the ordinary. I don't really feel Sonja's bookshelf is good foreshadowing; by the end of the story, it doesn't seem like any part of the horror game has reached the Singularity she alludes to. So we see it's Cooper's choice that directs him to ignore his equally grieving mother, it's his choice that brings him to the UK, and it's his choice to turn his phone back on and betray his employer. I understand how this story lacks a message, since it's about one small person's actions rather than a society's, but I definitely think it has a moral. Unrelated: While I understand it was first brought up in The National Anthem, the mentions of a fictional HBO "moon western" called Sea of Tranquility are way more on-point now that Westworld is on, which is also fantastic.
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Mameluke posted:I understand how this story lacks a message, since it's about one small person's actions rather than a society's, but I definitely think it has a moral. Could part of the message be about our desire for escape from reality, and how companies are providing increasingly realistic diversions via VR etc for our "entertainment"?
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I think what makes Shut Up and Dance stand out for me in this season is the way that it made me feel betrayed without making me feel that it was the writing that betrayed me. There's no point at which I sympathize with the mysterious Internet Detective crew who utilized spyware to ruin people's lives, but I felt so sorry, so angry at what was being done with this innocent kid, the way it made me identify with him as someone whose normal, everyday life was being exploited by internet bullies, suddenly changed a bit. The revelation at the end, that someone you've been sticking up for has done something you can't defend, not even against the disgusting people who go after everyone for all the wrong reasons, is something almost everyone in any online community has experienced. It makes you feel disgusted and powerless, and you know that it's only going to empower the people who employed doxxing as cruelty to think they're doing the Lord's work. I guess I'm going top stay in the minority in Hated in the Nation. I thought the bees were effective as a suspense-building threat and that the metaphor, and endless hive of which only one has to get through to ruin is, is a good allegory for the fears we have of our digital footprint catching up with us. One thing I have to say about the whole series, and Charlie Brooker, is that whenever I worry that something is going to be a tired criticism of how we're tired to our phones, of Outrage Culture, of Yelp, of Reality TV, it ends up being more nuanced than that. Ironically, a show titled Black Mirror with an episode called White Christmas never paints things in black and white. It's all grays. I usually describe the show as "an updated, R-rated, British [i]Twilight Zone," but I think I need to start saying that it is less moralizing. I love the Zone and, especially given context, I think it had important things to say, but but there's rarely cheerleading on Black Mirror, just an invitation to think. e: Playtest is definitely one of my least favorite Black Mirror episodes, but I think the thing that saves it for me is that I feel sorry for the protagonist rather than finding him grating. Bicyclops fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Bicyclops posted:I think what makes Shut Up and Dance stand out for me in this season is the way that it made me feel betrayed without making me feel that it was the writing that betrayed me. There's no point at which I sympathize with the mysterious Internet Detective crew who utilized spyware to ruin people's lives, but I felt so sorry, so angry at what was being done with this innocent kid, the way it made me identify with him as someone whose normal, everyday life was being exploited by internet bullies, suddenly changed a bit. The revelation at the end, that someone you've been sticking up for has done something you can't defend You can't really defend Kenny, but at the same time, there are legitimate reasons why teenagers can't be tried as adults for most crimes in most parts of the world.
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precision posted:You can't really defend Kenny, but at the same time, there are legitimate reasons why teenagers can't be tried as adults for most crimes in most parts of the world. He's 19
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Total Meatlove posted:He's 19 In the episode? Oh. I missed that. Well, never mind, the episode isn't remotely as subtle as I thought then.
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Oct 24, 2016 18:32
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I thought he was a bit younger too. But I don't think it takes away from the episode - Bicyclops' reasons for why it's effective still hold up.
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It's definitely not well put across if you're outside the UK, but he's at least 18 and out of school. Also the actors next role is in a Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne biopic 
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RE: Shut up and dance, the trolls outed the cheater and the pervert and the racist. They got Kenny on armed robbery and (probably) murder. Even the coercion defense can't fix that, which I think was the point.
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Mu Zeta posted:San Junipero and Nosedive looked like full production hollywood movies. Yeah they both seem like a cut above the rest, production-wise. Watching through most of them and it seems clear to me why those are the ones they shopped around to film festivals and for press previews, though the fact that they both aren't 'kill yourself at the end' levels of dark and potentially alienating is probably a factor too.
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precision posted:You can't really defend Kenny, but at the same time, there are legitimate reasons why teenagers can't be tried as adults for most crimes in most parts of the world. Well yes, and I think even at 19 he's young enough that we can kind of think, "Maybe someone could have done something about how horribly hosed up he was? I don't know how he got this monstrous, horrible thing to be a part of who he is, but he seemed so close to being an okay guy!" but all of that is part of it. Him being just on the cusp of adulthood, where we are not sure yet whether he is irreconcilable or unfixable, is still pretty subtle, I think. It makes the whole affair an utter exercise in despair, with absolutely no catharsis at all.
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Just watched Playtest. Wasn't the best episode, but it was fine. And I laughed at what had to be a BioShock reference: the woman telling Cooper, "Would you kindly open the door?"
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Mameluke posted:In Playtest, though, we're introduced to a normal world. Cooper lives in a painfully unassuming house (Syracuse, NY?) and reacts against that by undertaking a typical "gap year" vacation, something still more common in the UK than US. It's not until he visits Kojima's estate that we're introduced to anything out of the ordinary. I don't really feel Sonja's bookshelf is good foreshadowing; by the end of the story, it doesn't seem like any part of the horror game has reached the Singularity she alludes to. So we see it's Cooper's choice that directs him to ignore his equally grieving mother, it's his choice that brings him to the UK, and it's his choice to turn his phone back on and betray his employer. I understand how this story lacks a message, since it's about one small person's actions rather than a society's, but I definitely think it has a moral. It's about a western man who despite an obvious life of privilege and comfort where nothing has ever really threatened him, has finally faced watching his dad die of alzheimer's, feels disconnected from his mother and then fled around the world. It's a clear simple episode about how while you may want to run and distract yourself with fun, or games, there is no escape from our family or mortality. That while we in the west toy with horror to give us the adrenaline rush we no longer get in real life: no creepy spider, no old bully, no spooky house, nothing is actually scarier than the real, grown-up, true, fleshy, human horror of the knowledge that you will probably live to see your parents die. That you will get old and that you will probably spend your last moments in a delirium as your mind slips away from you. That we all, much like Coopers mind, can't actually deal with that level of horror; so we flee from it and block it out, but it will catch up with us someday. So maybe put down that control pad and talk to your family more. I mean it's not an intensely original insightful observation, much like the observations that; we should judge each other less socially to be more free; or not dehumanise our enemies through wilful ignorance; or that the mean thing you said to someone may burrow into their heads and cause them to kill themselves. But hey, we never seem to actually learn these lessons, so I don't blame Charlie Brooker for wanting to hold people by the hair, force them to stare into the Black Mirror and give them a really unsubtle reiteration using technology as a vehicle. But it's not really about the technology, its about us, and that is why it is uncomfortable.
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precision posted:In the episode? Oh. I missed that. Yeah, I definitely had the impression he was around 16 and that felt like a major undertone of the episode for me. I guess maybe it was the residual sympathy I had for him, but it seemed like part of the message with him and the cheater in particular was that they had the potential to turn back before the events of the episode. What a show. I still haven't watched the latter half, I binged the first half and I was just done. I really enjoyed Nosedive, but I have the feeling that repeated watchings might bring it down a bit. The Playtest guy was pretty insufferable, and there was at least one twist too many, but I still liked it overall.
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