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Ciaphas posted:I don't ever recall working this out, and it's been a long while since I've even seen KotL. What's the wrong place, anywhere but where they start? The one that starts farther away needs to be farther away than roughly half the area, and vice versa for the other one. If you tank them just where they start, you avoid the buff and can still dodge M's half-area blasts.
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Ciaphas posted:I don't ever recall working this out, and it's been a long while since I've even seen KotL. What's the wrong place, anywhere but where they start? 1st needs to be taken away, 2nd needs to be brought close. They'll flash if they're in the wrong place.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:17
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CrashScreen posted:Yeah, basically the half of the arena they spawn in is where you want to tank them. They get a vulnerability buff if they're taken to the wrong part. I once had some moron get it backwards and kept yelling at me that "it was faster if you move them". Fortunately I was tanking so I just ignored them and kept the dragons locked down in their spawn positions.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:21
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Hunh. Well maybe I'll see it at some point soon, I'm plotting to start the MNK relic so I can use my five aether oils on it instead of the AST weapon. Buy more time to buy umbrite etc. too.
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Ciaphas posted:I don't ever recall working this out, and it's been a long while since I've even seen KotL. What's the wrong place, anywhere but where they start? Correct. Usually you see it happen because the tank moves to dodge an AOE and doesn't return to where they started, and then you spend the next 10 minutes yelling at them to move the dragon and spamming sound effects until they look at chat.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:11
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This is good. Also those landscape changes as the music progresses. 
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Oct 25, 2016 00:47
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Got my two lines in this weeks journal, which is great since I still have an ironworks set in need of materia to be melded.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:59
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Mazed posted:This is good. Wow, i never noticed how scottish (or was it irish?) the Limsa theme sounds, though in hindsight i guess the bagpipes in the original instrumentation should have tipped me off  The horns are just so pompous and thundering in the original that it mostly drowns out everthing else.edit: also the start of the Ul'dah theme sounds very Disney-ish in this HenryEx fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 01:02
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It makes sense that there's bagpipes in the theme. They were among the instruments that pirate musicians were known to have used. Also, for what it's worth, the part I think you're referring to does sound a little Scottish.
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Oct 25, 2016 01:33
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Always thought Ul'dah's music felt very Star Wars and Gridania felt very Lord of the Rings, and assumed that was intentional, but Limsa-Lominsa's feels like a mashup between Treasure Planet and How to Train Your Dragon. It is, of course, the best city music. I wonder how they're gonna do Ala Mhigo's themes. Ishgard was a natural fit for those all that organ and harpsichord, but Ala Mhigo doesn't lend itself to any obvious cultural influence. Maybe Russian? Or just general Central Asian. There should be Ala Mhigan throat singing.
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Oct 25, 2016 03:32
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I am having one absolute hell of a time trying to decide between taking MNK or DRG to 60 first. I'm in love with the whole monk aesthetic these days and the job is a ton of fun, but I also like feeling "useful," and DRG's better utility (crit buff, debuffing piercing resistance) really appeals to me. I'll probably level both eventually but it'll be a while. It isn't that DRG isn't fun--I'm at the level now when it's really fun and I'm sure it's only going to get better--but MNK is crazy fun. I'm so indecisive  Super fun, or just regular fun but with the satisfaction of increasing raid DPS a bunch?
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Oct 25, 2016 04:20
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Harrow posted:I'm so indecisive
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Oct 25, 2016 04:23
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MNK > DRG I mean the math can't lie.
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copyright third astral era? determined or not that fat cat must be long dead that's kind of a downer
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Super fun, unless you literally have a real raid group lined up. Screw what pubbie idiots think, they have terrible garbo DPS anyway. Yeah, I most definitely don't have a raid group lined up and probably won't any time soon. I'd be surprised if I did Savage raids at all really. So I'm certain it doesn't matter for me, but y'know, being "useful" is a nagging thing for me. Brainamp posted:MNK > DRG Who am I to argue with math?
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Harrow posted:Yeah, I most definitely don't have a raid group lined up and probably won't any time soon. I'd be surprised if I did Savage raids at all really. So I'm certain it doesn't matter for me, but y'know, being "useful" is a nagging thing for me.
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I have never once, in all the dungeons, primal, or raids I've been in thought "Oh thank god, we have a DRG", and I've played all three roles (four, if you differentiate between melee and ranged dps). Take from that what you will. a crisp refreshing Moxie fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 05:02
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Harrow posted:I am having one absolute hell of a time trying to decide between taking MNK or DRG to 60 first. Spears are cool. Go Dragoon.
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:I have never once, in all the dungeons, primal, or raids I've been in thought "Oh thank god, we have a DRG", and I've played all three roles (four, if you differentiate between melee and ranged dps). I did once, but it was only because I was looking for bigdick parser numbers while I was playing BRD and they're the ones who bring the pierce damage up buff.
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Oct 25, 2016 05:19
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:I have never once, in all the dungeons, primal, or raids I've been in thought "Oh thank god, we have a DRG", and I've played all three roles (four, if you differentiate between melee and ranged dps). Speak for yourself, "Oh thank god, we have a DRG<t>" is my rez macro.
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Oct 25, 2016 05:24
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Dragoon's job is to pop Battle Litany and then take a nice nap after jumping right before an enemy does an AoE.
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Mazed posted:Always thought Ul'dah's music felt very Star Wars and Gridania felt very Lord of the Rings, and assumed that was intentional, but Limsa-Lominsa's feels like a mashup between Treasure Planet and How to Train Your Dragon. Ala Mhigo seems to be Welsh Tibet as far as I can tell. The aesthetic of Rhalgrs Reach in the trailer is straight up Tibetan Buddhism on the one hand, but the voive acting of characters like Ilberd and the Fake Griffin coupled with location names like Gyr Abania suggest a Welsh or Gaelic influence to me.
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:I have never once, in all the dungeons, primal, or raids I've been in thought "Oh thank god, we have a DRG", and I've played all three roles (four, if you differentiate between melee and ranged dps). You obviously have never partied with bards or machinists, or anybody who doesn't hate crits.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Ala Mhigo seems to be Welsh Tibet as far as I can tell. The aesthetic of Rhalgrs Reach in the trailer is straight up Tibetan Buddhism on the one hand, but the voive acting of characters like Ilberd and the Fake Griffin coupled with location names like Gyr Abania suggest a Welsh or Gaelic influence to me. Ala Mhigans also happen to all have very Germanic names.
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Xarbala posted:Ala Mhigans also happen to all have very Germanic names. A mashup of influences then. I can get behind that.
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Fister Roboto posted:You obviously have never partied with bards or machinists, or anybody who doesn't hate crits. My thoughts regarding other dps in my party pretty much start and end with "are they hitting their buttons right" and "are they stepping in bad too much and dying, leaving us with a dps deficit". By the time I start registering "oh cool, he's using Battle Litany on cooldown/appropriately", it's so far down my mental checklist that the fight is probably over. Edit: "funny name" and "cool glamour" being the first two things on that list, then the above. a crisp refreshing Moxie fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:A mashup of influences then. I can get behind that. A bunch of Saxon Buddhists who do kung fu and speak with Welsh accents. I too can dig it. It's easy for the German influence to slip right past because to our ears it probably just sounds like old-fashioned fantasy-ish names for us, but when I stopped to think about it the majority of people with Germanic names were from Ala Mhigo. And then I remembered that the French call Germany "Allemagne" and in Spanish it's "Alemania." It's not like how Ishgard, and really most Elezen, beat you upside the head with how Frankish their names are. The Germany connection with Ala Mhigo really slips past most people. And like Germania way back when, it's under Roman occupation. Now Gridania, I really can't figure out what real world cultural influences are in play there. In fact, I'm not sure there's any at all.
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Somewhere in the video folder of random game poo poo I've recorded, there's a clip of a Sophia Ex fight where a DRG thought he'd be able to dodge an Aero 3 with an elusive jump when he was already at the edge of the platform. He is the quintessential Dragoon. Both the hero we need and deserve.
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Xarbala posted:A bunch of Saxon Buddhists who do kung fu and speak with Welsh accents. I too can dig it. Gridania is a void of personality. A yawning black hole into which characteristics and distinguishing features go to die.
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Gridania is the culture of being selfish stuck-up assholes under the guise of caring about nature.
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:My thoughts regarding other dps in my party pretty much start and end with "are they hitting their buttons right" and "are they stepping in bad too much and dying, leaving us with a dps deficit". I had that second (and possibly first, I don't parse) problem in A12 tonight, and then to top it off the healers were terrible. I eventually had to get myself votekicked so I could clear it with another group before the heat death of the universe. Seriously it was bad, like, wipe after add phase if I didn't play near perfectly bad, and this was Normal. edit: and I main Bard Kwyndig fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Gridania is the culture of being selfish stuck-up assholes under the guise of caring about nature. The most realistic of them all
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Fister Roboto posted:Gridania is the culture of being selfish stuck-up assholes under the guise of caring about nature. The threat of being zerged by a million angry sprites for minor transgressions against the forest probably doesn't help their attitude toward outsiders..
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Limsa has the culture of "market board not only next an an aetheryte, but the MAIN one" Gridania has the culture of "market board near an aetheryte but not the main one and behind another loading zone" Ul'dah has the culture of "gently caress you, run to the market board." So gently caress Ul'dah and Gridania, Limsa is once again the greatest.
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Actually, uldah is the best because you spawn right next to the GC, which is the only reason to ever enter one of the cities. Market board and summoning bell are available right next to the goblet, lavender beds and mist teleports.  What, you don't have a guild house, private house and an apartment?
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Truga posted:Actually, uldah is the best because you spawn right next to the GC, which is the only reason to ever enter one of the cities. Market board and summoning bell are available right next to the goblet, lavender beds and mist teleports. That'd be a consideration except that the Ul'dah GC isn't the correct one to join.
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Limsa's GC may be the furthest from the main Aetheryte but at least it and the market boards are both near one. Also Maelstrom is the best GC.
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