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esperterra posted:And yet our last remaining Direwolf continues to get benched. Kopijeger posted:"Dany torches a few Westerosi lords with her dragons which include Sam Tarley’s father and brother".
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The thing that makes me wonder if the ending will be the same is the fact that GRRM has always talked about fantasy doesn't need any more dark lords and in general implied the Others aren't evil but we've seen no indication they're going this direction in the show.
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Oct 25, 2016 22:32
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TOOT BOOT posted:The thing that makes me wonder if the ending will be the same is the fact that GRRM has always talked about fantasy doesn't need any more dark lords and in general implied the Others aren't evil but we've seen no indication they're going this direction in the show. I think the endings will be the same, but the White Walkers/Others characterization in the television show will be kind of a rush job in season eight. Maybe an episode or two of humanizing the evil ice demons. And it's not true that we've seen no indication; the fact that they were created in such a violent matter by the Children of the Forest makes them a little sympathetic, I think.
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Oct 25, 2016 22:38
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I don't think "no dark lords" = "not evil". GRRM said the Nazis were an evil army that needed to be stopped with force, but I doubt he'd call Hitler a "dark lord". I think the show already disposed of the "dark lord" possibility by making them a WMD analogy instead of the army of the Great Other.
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Oct 25, 2016 22:48
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Im pretty sure we're gonna get a limp dick Matrix/BSG type ending
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Oct 25, 2016 23:09
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GRRM doesn't like an evil just for the sake of evil villain so we'll find out why the WW are doing their thing but that doesn't mean it will not be bad based on our standards.
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Oct 25, 2016 23:18
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We've seen that the walkers have a motive to fight against the children and the first men that goes beyond 'we're evil and we hate life', they've been enslaved by the children and the first men likely fought alongside the children (probably due to getting deceived by the children) when the walkers first rebelled before the long night. Their motives are already more developed and relatable than those of Sauron.
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Nichael posted:Maybe she does this after Olenna is killed and they change their loyalties to the Lannisters? Also, it's total bullshit that Diana Rigg, according the leaks, isn't around until the end of the show. Her death bothers me a lot more than most that have happened. They should keep her around to make fun of everyone else until the series finale. Don't worry, I'm sure that, with the author claiming that it was all bullshit, we won't be seeing a dead Olenna Redwyne-Tyrell for a while. I'm most concerned about Gendry in those fictitious leaks, though; why would he rejoin the BWB after they sold him to Melisandre to be sacrificed?
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Oct 25, 2016 23:52
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Mr. Nice! posted:they're presenting the ending that he told them. grrm is hung up rewriting what sam ate last night for the thousandth time. Just because the end point is the same doesn't mean the story is the same. The TV show is starting to feel like if they made a show of Lord of the Rings and had the eagles drop the ring into mount doom. Still the same ending but a completely different journey.
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Apoplexy posted:Don't worry, I'm sure that, with the author claiming that it was all bullshit, we won't be seeing a dead Olenna Redwyne-Tyrell for a while. I'm most concerned about Gendry in those fictitious leaks, though; why would he rejoin the BWB after they sold him to Melisandre to be sacrificed? Taear posted:Just because the end point is the same doesn't mean the story is the same. The TV show is starting to feel like if they made a show of Lord of the Rings and had the eagles drop the ring into mount doom. Still the same ending but a completely different journey.
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Oct 26, 2016 12:06
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Hang on, so if im reading that correctly the whole series ends with an ice dragon beaking down the wall and presumably killing everyone? Am i reading that right, i thought S7 was the last one?
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Oct 26, 2016 12:30
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No, short season 7 and short season 8.
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Oct 26, 2016 12:35
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meristem posted:
I used to spend a legit crazy amount of time on the Lost forums, Evil Dany is nothing and still fairly plausible when you think about it considering her family tree. Try reading a 15,000 word explanation of why the bunker was there to stop catastrophic pole shift caused by magnetic waves caused by aliens or whatever The sad part with Lost was that the theorists had clearly given their ideas more thought that the writers ever did. You cant really say the same for GRRM, if anything he thinks about stuff too much. Im not saying hes perfect but his 'tism towards characters and their motivations has clearly been thought out for the most part.
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Oct 26, 2016 12:36
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No idea if this is real Edit: Probably not since the HBO site doesn't feature this image. 
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lifts cats over head posted:No idea if this is real I mean, they're not gonna put an end-of-the-season-spoiler on a promotional pre-season poster. Edit: it's a cool image though!
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Nichael posted:Maybe she does this after Olenna is killed and they change their loyalties to the Lannisters? Also, it's total bullshit that Diana Rigg, according the leaks, isn't around until the end of the show. Her death bothers me a lot more than most that have happened. They should keep her around to make fun of everyone else until the series finale. Perhaps, but it seems contrived and unlikely to be real. Also, I bet that Olenna will somehow remain the official head of House Tyrrell even though she is only one by marriage. When Mace and his offspring were killed, the position should probably pass to the nearest appropriate relative, like a first or second cousin of Mace (Willas and Garlan apparently do not exist in the show).
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Oct 26, 2016 19:13
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lifts cats over head posted:No idea if this is real That's a Skyrim dragon right?
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Oct 26, 2016 22:17
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I think they are wyverns.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:24
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I mean come on how would you ever think that poster is real?
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Oct 26, 2016 22:41
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Because it looks about like the zero effort or thought put into every season's poster since season 1?
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Oct 26, 2016 22:54
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It's not hard to tell the difference between real and fan-made posters, but some people will have trouble with it every year.
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Oct 26, 2016 23:03
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The quality of the fake shouldn't even be the discussion point.
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hitchensgoespop posted:Hang on, so if im reading that correctly the whole series ends with an ice dragon beaking down the wall and presumably killing everyone? If this ice dragon thing turns out to be true what does that mean for the whole 'dragon has three heads' thing
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Oct 26, 2016 23:32
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Rhaegar was dumb.
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Adun posted:If this ice dragon thing turns out to be true what does that mean for the whole 'dragon has three heads' thing Dany and Jon riding Drogon while loving.
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Oct 27, 2016 00:32
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That the show hasn't mentioned that at all so it doesn't matter. The novelizations may have that, but they're just shoddy fan-fic anyways.
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Oct 27, 2016 00:40
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I never liked it. Dany, Jon, and Tyrion riding dragons side-by-side is happy-crappy nonsense. I've long thought it would be most interesting for her to lose two dragons, one to Euron and one to the White Walkers.
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Oct 27, 2016 00:48
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Solice Kirsk posted:That's a Skyrim dragon right? It looks like its from the Daznak's Pit scene but badly recoloured. It's not even zombified.
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I'm pretty sure those spoilers were real. Every new WOTW post has a disclaimer saying 'don't discuss the other spoilers from off-site without spoiler tagging them'. Which is a different approach than they took to the fake Season 6 spoilers. Edit: Yeah they're 100% real, WOTW is just like today talking about them filming things that were talked about in the spoilers. They have pictures of Theon getting beat up by the Ironborn (presumably for jumping overboard like a bitch when Euron attacks) and they're talking about Dany ambushing the Lannister Army on their way back from Highgarden which also matches up. I'm not really thrilled they're real for several reasons but oh well, could be worse. TOOT BOOT fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Adun posted:If this ice dragon thing turns out to be true what does that mean for the whole 'dragon has three heads' thing Obviously theon is a secret targ and becomes the third member of the dany crew. His name is also Aegon now. Anyway, seems kind of lame but at least it'll be exciting to watch. I am looking forward to littlefinger's death.
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Solice Kirsk posted:That's a Skyrim dragon right? It's from the Harry Potter theme park.
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Kind of surprised they'd throw away Aiden GIllen/Littlefinger a season early.
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Mameluke posted:Kind of surprised they'd throw away Aiden GIllen/Littlefinger a season early. Good riddance imho
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Elias_Maluco posted:Good riddance imho Agreed. The actor sucks rear end and the character writing is rudderless because if GRRM has a special plan for what Littlefinger is up to (and just lol if you believe this) he hasn't elected to share it with the hacks that write the show. My only hope is that he dies relatively soon in a way that leads many many internet people to post "was getting eaten by ice zombies part of your plan?"
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Elias_Maluco posted:Good riddance imho gord ridchance
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Theon gets rekt then killed by Euron http://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Theon-Euron-Greyjoy-Game-Thrones-Season-7-Set-42638920#photo-42638920 We'll have to wait till that one reddit nerd posts all major spoilers like he has for last two seasons, which by the way were nearly 100% correct.
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skasion posted:Agreed. The actor sucks rear end and the character writing is rudderless because if GRRM has a special plan for what Littlefinger is up to (and just lol if you believe this) he hasn't elected to share it with the hacks that write the show. My only hope is that he dies relatively soon in a way that leads many many internet people to post "was getting eaten by ice zombies part of your plan?" I do think he has a plan for Littlefinger. He's always said that Littlefinger can't be a viewpoint character because he "knows too much". Show littlefinger could easily have been a viewpoint character if that death is true since he's pretty much done absolutely nothing other than sell Sansa to Ramsay. It doesn't have to be something huge he knows, just something pivotal to what's going on. Most of which is now totally different in the books.
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As bad as Littlefinger can be, he's miles better than loving Theon. Hope that's the first scene of the premiere.
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