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PittTheElder posted:The problem is that nobody does, because it's a difficult thing to study. What little research does exist suggests that tax increases induce extremely limited migration (even in jurisdictions with very porous borders, ie. the American states), and that migration is concentrated to the top 1% of the investor class. And those are the same people who have little trouble investing abroad, and as we've seen, sheltering any profits overseas so as to be effectively immune from taxation anyway. So it's possible that there's no real loss at all. Plus, we've done things to explicitly make this kind of movement easier, like sign on to nafta. It's concern trolling by the upper class at its finest.
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Subjunctive posted:You don't think there are skilled workers making $100K? A few, and a bit more than 100K, but they're incredibly rare. They're an outlier. Bringing them up and acting like like raising income taxes on incomes above a hundred thousand dollars a year is stabbing normal trades people back is incredibly dishonest.
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Subjunctive posted:You don't think there are skilled workers making $100K? ITT, that is King of Brunei money.
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I'm glad you think it's funny that an income that only 14% of Canadians manage to earn and is more than double what 50% of all Canadians earn would be seen as a large sum of money.
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Because "1 in 8" really isn't that rare. It's a lot of money, yes, but not insanely so.
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Open a subway yourself and eat fresh EvilJoven
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EvilJoven posted:A few, and a bit more than 100K, but they're incredibly rare. They're an outlier. Bringing them up and acting like like raising income taxes on incomes above a hundred thousand dollars a year is stabbing normal trades people back is incredibly dishonest. Its not incredibly rare at all. Nearly all workers paid a fair wage and protected by a union (whether police,fire,ambulance,TTC,city workers, etc)or in a skilled trade (plumber,electrician) or a professional (doctor,lawyer,etc) with some overtime can go from 60-80k to 100k pretax. It is not a rich wage these day at all. Especially when you consider the cost of housing anywhere near a major city these days. Its not the 80s or early 90s where most full timers are paid 30k and houses are 200k. Its 2016 where the average single family house in GTA is 750k. And bad townhouses are 450k. Yet minimum wage is still 20k. patonthebach fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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patonthebach posted:Its not incredibly rare at all. Nearly all workers paid a fair wage and protected by a union (whether police,fire,ambulance,TTC,city workers, etc)or in a skilled trade (plumber,electrician) or a professional (doctor,lawyer,etc) with some overtime can go from 60-80k to 100k pretax. It is not a rich wage these day at all. Especially when you consider the cost of housing anywhere near a major city these days. Its not the 80s or early 90s where most full timers are paid 30k and houses are 200k. Its 2016 where the average single family house in GTA is 750k. And bad townhouses are 450k. Yet minimum wage is still 20k. Tons of 100k jobs out there http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/positions/yjzxn http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/positions/dzwry http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/positions/rbhyv
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patonthebach posted:Its not incredibly rare at all. Nearly all workers paid a fair wage and protected by a union (whether police,fire,ambulance,TTC,city workers, etc)or in a skilled trade (plumber,electrician) or a professional (doctor,lawyer,etc) with some overtime can go from 60-80k to 100k pretax. It is not a rich wage these day at all. Especially when you consider the cost of housing anywhere near a major city these days. Its not the 80s or early 90s where most full timers are paid 30k and houses are 200k. Its 2016 where the average single family house in GTA is 750k. And bad townhouses are 450k. Yet minimum wage is still 20k. 100k is more than enough to live comfortably while still paying more in taxes. Maybe increasing taxes would cause our pants on head stupid country to learn a little personal finance and budgeting instead of buying a new F150 every other year to take the new boat up to the cottage.
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Do you guys know what a biweekly net of a 100k salary even yields?
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namaste faggots posted:Do you guys know what a biweekly net of a 100k salary even yields? You think anyone that posts here earns that kind of money? Did you spend your whole probation drinking?
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 lmao enjoy your retirement assholes
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Tons of 100k jobs out there Yup there are a ton of them. (and thats a good thing!) Showing 1 to 100 of 892,679 entries And thats just public sector! http://www.sunshinelist.ca/
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EvilJoven posted:I'm glad you think it's funny that an income that only 14% of Canadians manage to earn and is more than double what 50% of all Canadians earn would be seen as a large sum of money. I'm glad too because it's silly and counterproductive to try to attack people who still exist within your economic reality when there are people who are making more money than thousands of you combined. It's shortsighted and crab-buckety as hell. That guy makes three times!!!!! what I do! He is the problem, clearly, and not the people pulling in hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
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Furnaceface posted:100k is more than enough to live comfortably while still paying more in taxes. Maybe increasing taxes would cause our pants on head stupid country to learn a little personal finance and budgeting instead of buying a new F150 every other year to take the new boat up to the cottage.
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The 0.1% hold as much wealth as the bottom 90%, but, no, let's go after the doctor or the engineer or the business owner because I have to walk past that rear end in a top hat's fancy car every single day. This totally at all isn't exactly what the 0.1% hope we'll end up wasting our energies over. They're so far up in the stratosphere that they're invisible to all the pavement-gazing assholes.
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look at you bitch rear end motherfuckers talking about salaries as if they had any effect on wealth whatsoever
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Brannock posted:The 0.1% hold as much wealth as the bottom 90%, but, no, let's go after the doctor or the engineer or the business owner because I have to walk past that rear end in a top hat's fancy car every single day. This totally at all isn't exactly what the 0.1% hope we'll end up wasting our energies over. They're so far up in the stratosphere that they're invisible to all the pavement-gazing assholes. Are you being willfully dense? They wanted to add more tax brackets so that the increases are spread out better. 100k earners wouldnt spike to 80%, theyd probably see something like 4-8% increases. If that is enough to make them leave then gently caress em. Trapick posted:100k isn't boat, new truck, cottage money these days. It lots of cities (Vancouver/Toronto/Victoria) it's maybe you can afford a house money. You should go read the debt bubble thread. CI has posted some amazing stories.
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Furnaceface posted:Are you being willfully dense? They wanted to add more tax brackets so that the increases are spread out better. 100k earners wouldnt spike to 80%, theyd probably see something like 4-8% increases. If that is enough to make them leave then gently caress em.
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namaste faggots posted:look at you bitch rear end motherfuckers talking about salaries as if they had any effect on wealth whatsoever yeah, the real wealth comes from betting it all on red [unironically this, but with the stock market]
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are you loving kidding me no self respecting canadian bets on securities they bet on housing RETARD
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Double the personal exemption, raise all the brackets by 5%, add a 400k+ bracket at 50% and give the CRA more authority and more funding to catch evaders.
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Furnaceface posted:You think anyone that posts here earns that kind of money? Did you spend your whole probation drinking? Yes, some people that post here earn that kind of money.
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Furnaceface posted:Are you being willfully dense? They wanted to add more tax brackets so that the increases are spread out better. 100k earners wouldnt spike to 80%, theyd probably see something like 4-8% increases. If that is enough to make them leave then gently caress em. Why go after the middle class when they will either cut spending or go further into debt? Make new tax brackets for people earning over 500k a year. Not 100k
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Taxes start at 0% and go up 1% for every $10,000 you make, topping out at 90% on incomes over $900,000.
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you think high earners are going to bother staying in canada lol
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Brannock posted:The 0.1% hold as much wealth as the bottom 90%, but, no, let's go after the doctor or the engineer or the business owner because I have to walk past that rear end in a top hat's fancy car every single day. This totally at all isn't exactly what the 0.1% hope we'll end up wasting our energies over. They're so far up in the stratosphere that they're invisible to all the pavement-gazing assholes. The business owner is basically just a less succesful version of the 0.1%, also a lot of small business owners very actively contribute to why Canadian labor laws are lagging significantly behind much of the world, so they're really not anywhere near the same category as engineers or doctors, even if they make similar amounts of money.
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namaste faggots posted:you think high earners are going to bother staying in canada lol they will cause high earning canadians are lazy and stupid
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you guys should search linkedin for the number of doctors in vancouver. then search linkedin for the number of event planners in vancouver
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Furnaceface posted:You think anyone that posts here earns that kind of money? Did you spend your whole probation drinking? Do you think we're all polisci majors that sip PSL talking to our humanities major friends about the dearth of jobs? Are you serious?
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guys donald trump will win because x) y) z) bloop bloop bloop whoa whoa whoa standard devia-what
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Risky Bisquick posted:Do you think we're all polisci majors that sip PSL talking to our humanities major friends about the dearth of jobs? Are you serious? Not at all. I assume most of you work at Hootsuite for the culture.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:21
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I wouldn't live in Vancouver for double my salary. CI how do you even get out of bed knowing all your money is being transferred to wealthy boomers?
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i'm surprised you dumb assholes can't seem to add up that i'm a raging shithead precisely because i make more than most 1% boomers yet live like a loving prole because i'm not a loving idiot
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Is there a wechat for chinese swap meets in YVR?
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If you ever upgrade to a SFH you will directly benefit some decrepit boomer, remember these words
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vyelkin posted:Taxes start at 0% and go up 1% for every $10,000 you make, topping out at 90% on incomes over $900,000. I like it.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Regina municipal elections wrapped up tonight with a healthy 20% voter turnout. The son of a retiring councillor won his ward with 26% of the vote. Sigh.
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