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Dan Didio posted:Age of Ultron is crushingly, fundamentally boring at every turn, on top of being poorly made. Amazing Spider Man is bad, but it at least has some interesting visuals and auditory choices.
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ufarn posted:[Extremely Joss Whedon voice] an extended 20 minute Thor dream sequence would have fixed it, but the studio A 3 hour and 15 minute cut of Ultron and the 3 hour and 10 minute cut of BvS were both terrible ideas and the movies both suffered from the necessary pruning that went on.
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SonicRulez posted:The scene where he takes off the mask to get the kid to come up? That is so the opposite idea of Spider-Man that it hurt me. And it was all to set up the crane ending which was even worse. Granted, I still maintain that the Times Square Electro sequence in ASM2 alone makes it better than the first one. You think Peter Parker who notices that a kid is terrified of him in his mask wouldn't do something to alleviate that fear and show him he's a kid just like him? The dramatization of him taking his mask completely off is of course Movie 'actor showing his face' magic, but I'm not talking about production/direction. I'm talking about Peter noticing the kid is scared and doing whatever he can to comfort that kid and save his life. Peter motivating that kid to be strong at a time that you need to bury fear and just get through the moment? That is the heart I'm referring to. That's what the essence of Spider-man is in my opinion. That and lots of guilt, but no need to traumatize the boy.  If you can't extract that moment and appreciate it and just see it as setup for a crane scene then that's on you. The scene itself could stand on it's own.
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Oct 26, 2016 15:06
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Peter using the mask to help the terrified kid find the bravery to help himself is 100% Spider-man and you're a heartless monster if you think otherwise.
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ufarn posted:[Extremely Joss Whedon voice] an extended 20 minute Thor dream sequence would have fixed it, but the studio lmao
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ufarn posted:[Extremely Joss Whedon voice] an extended 20 minute Thor dream sequence would have fixed it, but the studio This was always the most baffling loving thing
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SonicRulez posted:The scene where he takes off the mask to get the kid to come up? That is so the opposite idea of Spider-Man that it hurt me.
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Dan Didio posted:Age of Ultron is crushingly, fundamentally boring at every turn, on top of being poorly made. Amazing Spider Man is bad, but it at least has some interesting visuals and auditory choices. Counterpoint - Amazing Spider-Man 2 was riddled with plot holes and felt like they patched together two completely different movies. Other choices they made in the movie are astoundingly dumb - Electro got his superpowers from electric eels that live in water but his weakness is water? Also, how was Richard Parker able to build a hidden subway car inside an abandoned subway tunnel without anyone noticing? Not to mention Richard must've had magic Wi-Fi, as there was no conceivable way he would've been able to upload information while on a plane in 2000. The only good thing about that movie was Andrew Garfield's costume, and mayyybe Paul Giamatti hamming it up as the Rhino.
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redbackground posted:I haven't even seen the movie, but I can already tell that this is a Wrong Opinion. Yes, that was by far the best scene in the film and one of the few moments it really sold the character.
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ufarn posted:[Extremely Joss Whedon voice] an extended 20 minute Thor dream sequence would have fixed it, but the studio From what I've read the studio demanded the weird Thor cave sequence to tease the next Thor movie. Joss hated it and fought against it. edit: http://www.avclub.com/article/corporate-drone-joss-whedon-fought-pure-artistic-i-218967 Jagermonster fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Jonny_Rocket posted:Counterpoint - Amazing Spider-Man 2 was riddled with plot holes and felt like they patched together two completely different movies. Other choices they made in the movie are astoundingly dumb - Electro got his superpowers from electric eels that live in water but his weakness is water? Also, how was Richard Parker able to build a hidden subway car inside an abandoned subway tunnel without anyone noticing? Not to mention Richard must've had magic Wi-Fi, as there was no conceivable way he would've been able to upload information while on a plane in 2000. Remember that they shot an entire subplot involved Peter meeting Mary Jane and she tempted his nerdy heart away from Gwen which is why she was so willing to leave NYC. They decided to cut the entire plot out of the film which makes the remaining scenes between Peter and Gwen incredibly weird and awkward.
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Mary Jane's whole appearance in the movie now is the back of her head for a second in that Rhino finale.
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Jagermonster posted:From what I've read the studio demanded the weird Thor cave sequence to tease the next Thor movie. Joss hated it and fought against it. The cave scene in and of itself wasn't bad. They wanted to tease the next movie and they needed a way to introduce the infinity gems to the main characters so it would make sense what Ultron's plan was and why there was a gem in Loki's staff. The problem was that Whedon filmed a 3 hour and 45 minute cut of the movie and Marvel wanted the cave scene in there. So, they cut the cave scene down from 10 minutes to about 45 seconds and they still had to cut another 50 minutes from the movie.
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The cave scene was one of the few instances in AoU where someone took their shirt off so it absolutely had to stay.
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Grendels Dad posted:The cave scene was one of the few instances in AoU where someone took their shirt off so it absolutely had to stay. Tony and Steve chopping wood wasn't enough?
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quote:The reasons for director Tim Miller’s reported exit from the Deadpool sequel may be becoming more clear, as The Wrap now reports that Miller and star/producers Ryan Reynolds had wildly different concepts of the sequel to the blockbuster film - not just limited to casting. If that's true, it really sounds like losing Miller is the best possible direction to go in.
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Yeah that seems like it's for the best, avengers-except-with-deadpool-and-negasonic doesn't sound like the greatest idea
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Oct 26, 2016 19:19
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When it comes to Deadpool, I trust in Ryan Reynolds.
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Codependent Poster posted:When it comes to Deadpool, I trust in Ryan Reynolds. This, it's his baby and I enjoyed the first one well enough.
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yeah one of the charms of the deadpool movie was that it was sort of low key. So many superhero flicks seem to think that they have to go bigger and bigger. I don't think deadpool as a character really needs an end of the world type of scenario.
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But one of the best Deadpool stories ever was about him stopping just that.
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The next Deadpool movie should be about a lovely little side-quest he does while the Apocalypse movie happens in the far distance.
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Grendels Dad posted:The next Deadpool movie should be about a lovely little side-quest he does while the Apocalypse movie happens in the far distance. Deadpool 2 should basically be a version of The Zeppo where the XMen and/or Cable are fighting some world ending threat and dismissing Deadpool who unwittingly and unknowingly somehow saves all their asses and he never reveals it.
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You mean like the Booster Gold episode in Justice League?
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Comfortador posted:You think Peter Parker who notices that a kid is terrified of him in his mask wouldn't do something to alleviate that fear and show him he's a kid just like him? The dramatization of him taking his mask completely off is of course Movie 'actor showing his face' magic, but I'm not talking about production/direction. I'm talking about Peter noticing the kid is scared and doing whatever he can to comfort that kid and save his life. Peter motivating that kid to be strong at a time that you need to bury fear and just get through the moment? That is the heart I'm referring to. That's what the essence of Spider-man is in my opinion. That and lots of guilt, but no need to traumatize the boy. I didn't realize this was a controversial opinion, but a scene in the movie where a little kid is terrified of Spider-Man seems like a fundamentally bad idea. If the mask isn't endearing and inspirational, he prolly should do something about that. Spider-Man has a secret identity. It is essential to the character in modern Marvel in a way that does not apply to any of his colleagues anymore. PLUS THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF SPIDER-MAN FROM INCEPTION IS THAT A CHILD WOULD LOOK AT HIM AND THINK "WOW THAT'S FUCKIN COOL". So no, sorry, I didn't get giddy for Andrew Garfield saving a kid. I wanted Spider-Man. If that is supposed to be the best part of the movie, I feel confident in maintaining my opinion that it was hot trash. Like sure, from the internal logic of the movie, I can see the character thinking that was a good idea. But I don't judge movies on their own internal logic because that doesn't make as much sense in my mind. I'm not upset at the character Peter Parker for his decision. I'm upset with the writer/producer/director/whoever that decided to include that scene.
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Just back from Doctor Strange. It is really good.
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Well sometimes people want to be surprised about whether a film is good or not.
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Oh sorry that wasnt intended as a dig on you that was supposed to be a funny
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Oh and also about the post credits (no details in spoilers but just in case) weirdly the bit at the very end of the credits is way more plot relevant than the mid-credits scene... I think I know why they did it that way, maybe to give the "doctor strange will return" text more punch. Still seemed a little unusual.
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I would be perfectly fine with a Deadpool sequel just doing a pretty straight adaptation of Deadpool #20, where he finds a girl about to kill herself and spends the entire issue kidnapping her into Anti-hero Hijinks so that she'll talk about her problems, ending by dropping her off at a hospital where he's texted a nurse who has prepped a room for her. I wish I could find the scans of it cause it was pretty great. They break into a revenge porn ring and take baseball bats to hackers who get into women's phones to blackmail them. This is the cover. 
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Does Cable show up? Cause while I would love that, I feel any non-Cable Deadpool stories are automatically out of Reynolds' vision.
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Roth posted:You mean like the Booster Gold episode in Justice League? The Buffy episode came first.
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SonicRulez posted:Does Cable show up? Cause while I would love that, I feel any non-Cable Deadpool stories are automatically out of Reynolds' vision. He does not, but it's not a stretch to change "Deadpool kidnaps a suicidal girl and takes her on anti-hero duty" to "Deadpool kidnaps a suicidal girl and takes her on anti-hero time travel duty." Cable could be the Straight Man who tries to give her fatherly advice that she is completely unreceptive to while Wade is like "Life is literally an endless firehose of pain and I totally get wanting off that ride, but if you kill yourself you'll never make life worse for people who are worse than you, and that is life's only real joy."
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Michael Massee passed away. For those unaware, Massee was the unfortunate soul who fired a prop gun at Brandon Lee during the filming of the Crow. The gun was incorrectly prepared and the round struck Lee which shortly lead to his death. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-massee-dead-crow-actor-who-accidentally-shot-brandon-lee-was-61-941538
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Rhyno posted:Michael Massee passed away. For those unaware, Massee was the unfortunate soul who fired a prop gun at Brandon Lee during the filming of the Crow. The gun was incorrectly prepared and the round struck Lee which shortly lead to his death. Does this mean we can have Brandon Lee back now?
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Rhyno posted:The Buffy episode came first. The problem with that is that I've never seen Buffy
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Roth posted:The problem with that is that I've never seen Buffy That's not really a problem unless you like Whedon at his most painfully twee
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It's a really good episode.
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SonicRulez posted:I didn't realize this was a controversial opinion, but a scene in the movie where a little kid is terrified of Spider-Man seems like a fundamentally bad idea. If the mask isn't endearing and inspirational, he prolly should do something about that. Spider-Man has a secret identity. It is essential to the character in modern Marvel in a way that does not apply to any of his colleagues anymore. PLUS THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF SPIDER-MAN FROM INCEPTION IS THAT A CHILD WOULD LOOK AT HIM AND THINK "WOW THAT'S FUCKIN COOL". So no, sorry, I didn't get giddy for Andrew Garfield saving a kid. I wanted Spider-Man. If that is supposed to be the best part of the movie, I feel confident in maintaining my opinion that it was hot trash. His costume has always freaked people out in the books. I don't know what Spider-man you are using as a basis for your opinion.
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