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Bombadilillo posted:I always thought Oregonians were stupid. I thought they have legal weed?
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That's... not how any of that works.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:05
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Silver lineing: This makes it way more likely the feds go waco at the next one.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And IIRC outside of Portland Oregon is hick as gently caress. People think of Oregon as hip west coast place but it is pretty hee haw outside hippie enclaves such as Eugene/Portland.
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https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/791792028250058752
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I'm in Burns right now after passing through the refuge. It's raining, very appropriate.
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Tayter Swift posted:I'm just amazed they couldn't even bother to convict for trespassing I don't think they were charged with Tresspassing in this trial
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Burt Sexual posted:I thought they have legal weed? It's mostly white people in Oregon so reefer madness isn't really a thing.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:06
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nm posted:Silver lineing: Right? If you cant get a jury to prosecute because they very loving stupid then you are forced into a corner to kill to protect a governments ability to function. gently caress this was a dumb verdict
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Oct 28, 2016 01:06
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Even Portland is uncomfortably white, and I say this as a resident of UTah.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:07
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The OJ version of this would have one of the FBI officers involved was recorded saying he joined the bureau to get a chance to reenact Waco and Ruby Ridge so he could kill rural white people. This is far dumber than OJ.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:06
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"Fed charges are airtight or they wouldn't bother!" loving lol
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What is really ironic is that they now probably wasted more government money on failing to adequately prosecute the case than was actually destroyed by the guys.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:07
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What in the loving christ am i reading right now
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That kinda changes my tune. Argue, but don't scream at the judge. It will get him a bunch of sovcit clients though. Cash up front.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:06
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Did they blow their loving shofar again?
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Oct 28, 2016 01:08
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exploding mummy posted:I don't think they were charged with Tresspassing in this trial They were not, because that is not a federal charge available on proprietary jurisdiction lands, which Malheur is. That is why they were charged with conspiracy; there are not actually a lot of substantive federal criminal charges available on proprietary jurisdiction lands.
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TotalLossBrain posted:"Fed charges are airtight or they wouldn't bother!" To be fair, this wasn't the feds fault at all.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:09
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I hope their plane back to bumfucksville hits a mountain
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nm posted:It can be, but it has been used way too often to aquit white dudes of hosed up poo poo. I don't want to get rid of it (and not sure how you would without weakening a lot of vital double jeopardy protections), but it gets misused more than it is used properly. You're probably right. Really what's obnoxious is the possibility of jury nullification in criminal cases without JNOV or DV to serve as a check.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:09
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How long did the jury deliberate on the verdicts?
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Oct 28, 2016 01:09
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Hey this is good news for the DAPL protesters tho right? lmaoooooo Stop pretending like any of them are going to get charged with anything anywhere jesus
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TotalLossBrain posted:"Fed charges are airtight or they wouldn't bother!" They were. The defense just picked the best loving jury (for them. Aka mad and dumb as hell) ever.
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Optimus Subprime posted:How long did the jury deliberate on the verdicts? Well the deliberations started anew this morning and they announced at 3pm.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:10
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Epic High Five posted:Hey this is good news for the DAPL protesters tho right? lmaoooooo It's their fault for not threatening the government with armed rebellion.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:10
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Remember kids, cases can be won or lost on jury selection
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nm posted:They were. The defense just picked the best loving jury (for them. Aka mad and dumb as hell) ever. The jury helped the defense as well since they kicked out juror 11.
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nm posted:Silver lineing: oh i hope so i hope so
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Epic High Five posted:Hey this is good news for the DAPL protesters tho right? lmaoooooo How white are those protesters?
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TotalLossBrain posted:"Fed charges are airtight or they wouldn't bother!" Isn't it like a 98% conviction rate?
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cool they'll be released in time to vote trump, just like me
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Oct 28, 2016 01:11
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Quick let's all go take over the Bundy ranch while they're gone!
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disjoe posted:Remember kids, cases can be won or lost on jury selection i bet the prosecution just didn't loving care because they were so confident they had an ironclad airtight case, lol what a loving mess
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Semisponge posted:Even Portland is uncomfortably white, and I say this as a resident of UTah. Oregon is/was literally a state founded from the get-go to be a whites-only territory: quote:In the summer of 1844, for example, the Legislative Committee passed a provision that said any free black people who were in the state would be subject to flogging if they didn’t leave within two years. The floggings were supposed to continue every six months until they left the territory. That provision was revised in December of 1845 to remove the flogging part. Instead, free black people who remained would be offered up “publicly for hire” to any white person who would remove them from the territory. Reminder, this is the original Oregon constitution: quote:
 Hell, the mayor of Portland in 1921, George L. Baker, is third from the right and the police chief, L.V. Jenkins, is third from the left in that picture.
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nm posted:How white are those protesters? they're mostly american indian from my read .. 
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Oct 28, 2016 01:12
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nm posted:How white are those protesters? They're mostly native americans, which is probably the only group of people that have been hosed over more than black people in this county.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:12
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TotalLossBrain posted:"Fed charges are airtight or they wouldn't bother!"
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Indians who literally live on a reservation, complaining about the effects of the pipeline on their reservation, no less.
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Oct 28, 2016 01:12
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Kazak_Hstan posted:They were not, because that is not a federal charge available on proprietary jurisdiction lands, which Malheur is. That is why they were charged with conspiracy; there are not actually a lot of substantive federal criminal charges available on proprietary jurisdiction lands. Well, there is this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
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Epic High Five posted:Hey this is good news for the DAPL protesters tho right? lmaoooooo They've already lit a bridge on fire. And tire fires but that minor league.
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